Post Match Discussion - Round 12

[sisso 2,576]

Loudest roar I've heard from the Demons fans when Watts kicked the sealer since 2000....the Southern at the punt road end end was shaking!

[Pates 9,626]

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

I doubt there's one but would love to see a reverse angle of Jack's sealer...just to watch it sail through

There should be one out there in TV land, hopefully it'll turn up on one of the programs. 

I'm living in the UK now, only being able to watch this streamed on my TV is the first time I really wish I was back home! I would've love to hear that roar in person as it sailed through the big sticks!

Just as an aside a moment I did get from the broadcast, Neale Daniher was interviewed at the quarter time and at the end of it he cried out "Go Dees". Gave me goosebumps, he still has love for the club. 

[Dee-licious 1,949]

On Oscar - he had 8 touches in the first half because he kept getting in the right position and intercepting. Yes his decision making is terrible but cannot fault the way he makes it to contests and always seems to be the one back there reading the play. Just need to make sure one of our leaders is next to him at all times. 

[MT64 1,144]

4 hours ago, MrReims said:

My favourite from an irate Pies fan suggesting they pull out of QB all together;

"So I gather by everybody thoughts here I'm not the only one, we owe Neale Daniher nothing, they can [censored] off and use another club like they use and our massive following, I've had a gut full of this stuff, Collingwood are stupid to let another club to pump them up to the detriment of our team and 4 points each year, the AFL don't want us to spoil the party, those lady 3 mins today told a huge story, it was the BIG FIX, something needs to change, the booing for the maggots as they walked off today was massive, loud and long, we could all see it, yet they treat us as stupid"

 

Enough said really ?

So the irate pies fan complains that the umpires treat them as "stupid". Maybe I have been under estimating the umpires until now. Just watched the replay again and the pies fans were calling "ball" even before we were tackled in some instances. They were clearly trying to rev their players up as they know how intense we treat this game. Just love Q.B.

[Stevienic23 1,183]

31 minutes ago, Night Crawler said:

Where did you here that?

On SEN

[beelzebub 23,254]

1 hour ago, Vogon Poetry said:

I was lucky enough to be sitting right behind it.  As Watts ran in he slowed right down, balanced himself before he kicked and it was like an arrow.  There was not the slightest bend on it, straight over the goal umpires head.  I knew he'd done it the moment it left the boot, it was pure.

Coaches often talk about courage and the courage to run when you're spent.  Watts was remarkable in this respect yesterday.  One wonders if the training camp they went to before Christmas was the genesis of that ability - to just run when you can't.

Great moment for Jack, great moment for every Melbourne supporter and I suspect a great moment for all football supporters other than the Pies.

It won't get the plaudits it really deserves. I'm biased of course but it's right up there for goal of the week.

Why ?

Understanding of the moment; the action to gut run and position himself, to commit to the play.. it's do or die, its brickbats or bouquets.

To know the weight of that moment, to own it, to do it. 

One of these days id like to buy this bloke a beer. Strong shoulders this lad has...mmmm.

Takes balls

 

[Pates 9,626]

4 minutes ago, MT64 said:

So the irate pies fan complains that the umpires treat them as "stupid". Maybe I have been under estimating the umpires until now. Just watched the replay again and the pies fans were calling "ball" even before we were tackled in some instances. They were clearly trying to rev their players up as they know how intense we treat this game. Just love Q.B.

There's definitely something satisfying about hearing their crying and claims of it being "fixed". If that's the case then the Pies are in on it too, why else would they give up a 28pt lead so easily!

Unless, maybe could it just be that we are just a better team than them at the minute?

They are kidding themselves blaming the umpiring. There didn't seem to be any bizarre calls that were just plain wrong, it was just decisions that were there went our way when on another day they wouldn't. 

If I'm being picky the two at the end that I thought we were lucky on were the holding the ball paid to us in defence for the Pies player "diving on the ball". I didn't agree with it at the time, I felt it was heat of battle picking up the ball and falling from pressure. Definitely could've been a ball up.

And the other was I think Bugg pushed the Pies player has he kicked it and it affected the kick. Again, another day it might've been paid. But the fact there isn't a massive descrepency in the numbers shows it wasn't biased one way. 

Pies fans just need someone else to blame. And for what it's worth I actually think Buckley coached pretty well yesterday. When they executed the spreading and the switching properly they looked dangerous, but as our pressure grew their disposal started to falter and the 50/50's that they were winning in the first half went the other way in the second. 

It'll be interesting to see what happens with him at the end of the year, but I don't think he's a hopeless coach. I think he was thrust into it too quickly, much like Voss. 

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

16 minutes ago, MT64 said:

So the irate pies fan complains that the umpires treat them as "stupid". Maybe I have been under estimating the umpires until now. Just watched the replay again and the pies fans were calling "ball" even before we were tackled in some instances. They were clearly trying to rev their players up as they know how intense we treat this game. Just love Q.B.

Very unfair of the pies fans to single out the umpires like that.

Everyone treats them as stupid!

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

Just now, Pates said:

There's definitely something satisfying about hearing their crying and claims of it being "fixed".

There's the old joke. What's better than beating C'wood by 10 goals? Beating them by 1 point.

But what's better than that? Beating them by less than a kick with a dodgy free going against them in the last minute.

Their booing after the siren was music to the ears!

[Biffen 12,937]

4 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

 

Takes balls

 

I don't care what he does off the field as long as his form holds up.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

9 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

It won't get the plaudits it really deserves. I'm biased of course but it's right up there for goal of the week.

Why ?

Understanding of the moment; the action to gut run and position himself, to commit to the play.. it's do or die, its brickbats or bouquets.

Ron Burg's description was spot on. Time stood still. That's what it felt like at the ground. Watching on replay I was surprised by how many players were in our forward 50. At the time it felt like he was the only one on the ground.

A moment that will live for years.

(And for those not at the G ... yes it was loud. It was as cathartic for us Demons fans as it must have been for Jack!)

[Biffen 12,937]

On Buckley,

I'm not sure he is a great manager of men.

I don't think he has ever had the confidence of his team .

It doesn't help that fast Eddy and guys like Gubby Allen make headlines .

No finals- No Buckley .

[binman 42,167]

6 minutes ago, Ted Fidge said:

Ron Burg's description was spot on. Time stood still. That's what it felt like at the ground. Watching on replay I was surprised by how many players were in our forward 50. At the time it felt like he was the only one on the ground.

A moment that will live for years.

(And for those not at the G ... yes it was loud. It was as cathartic for us Demons fans as it must have been for Jack!)

I was wondering who was 'chasing' wattsy. Then i listened to the last 5 mins 3aw call linked above (ta btw). It was adams. Succesful clubs have players who gut run and kick critical goals.

Double dose of poetic justice.

 

[Dr. Gonzo 23,926]

4 hours ago, DeeZee said:

We haven't even hit our straps yet, just wait till Gawn starts giving out mids silver service out of the middle.

Its been a mammoth effort by the boys without Gawn and Hogan and really underplayed in the media.

Agreed I can't believe how much it's been ignored really but the media are stupid and also appeal to the lowest common denominator so not surprising really

[Dr. Gonzo 23,926]

2 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Fair call, watched the replay and agree we also got dudded a number of times.

You only just watched the replay? 

Edited June 13, 2017 by Dr. Gonzo

[Dr. Gonzo 23,926]

2 hours ago, Travis16 said:

Haha me too the Watts goal I've now watched a couple of dozen times, and I admit I have always been a fan. Something I noticed in his face after he kicked it was different though. Look closely at his face, it wasnt just boyish joy, it was far bigger and deeper than that...

I noticed the same thing after his goal in the 3rd. Yesterday meant a lot to him I reckon.

[Red and Bluebeard 2,081]

7 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:

We were watching the game from the nose bleed section in the Members. You could see absolutely everything.

The game was completely in the balance. Time was running out. 71,000 people had their hearts in their mouths. 

Harmes kicks it long to a player in space. It was to Watts who had sprinted from the CBD to run onto the bouncing ball on the wing. The rest played out in agonising slow motion.

Watts, with ball in hand, laconically moved into the forward 50 looking for pass options. Jones was on. Bugg was on. Not sure he saw either of them. Garlett was in the goal square but was well covered. Watts was on a tight angle. And yet he kept inching towards the goal square, almost begging for a Pie player to approach him so he could give it off.

And then he seemed to realise that it was he who had to do it. He had to kick the winner. At that moment, he seemed to slow down, focus on the goal, and steady himself. It was like the bomber in the Dam Busters knowing that he had just one attempt and he simply had to hit the target. Civilisation depended on it.

And he nailed it!

A truly seminal moment in his career. A truly memorable footy moment for the rest of us.

I still get nervous watching it on replay, which I have about 350 times.

 

Bugger the newsreading, Ron, you should take up lyric poetry! The thing I remember most about that last few minutes was the continuous and surging noise, like about 70,000 people were saying "Oh yes!" and "Oh [censored]!" but not simultaneously, so all you could hear was this eerie semi-background garble that rose and fell with the play. A couple of times I thought the Pies were out and were going to nail a goal on the run to put them ahead, only for some act of desparation by one of ours to keep us in it. Then there came "that" play'; as soon as OMac dribbled the kick forward, you could hear the Dees fans exclaim "Oh!", seeing the break in the play and the chance to surge forward. Then I remember seeing Watts come sprinting out of nowhere to make position, and the surging roar as the ball landed near him, and sat up neatly .. and then he was off, with the crowd urging him on for what seemed like an age. The Pies defence didn't run at him for some reason, and sensing this, he seemed to keep running forward until he pretty much had to kick the goal, and of course did. The roar that followed is probably still echoing around the stands ...

[chook fowler 19,304]

The moaning of the Filth about the umpiring, Hannan taking out Dunn and Watts sticking it up them after he scored the goal made it one of the sweetest victories I've seen. Love it.

Edited June 13, 2017 by chook fowler

[Dr. Gonzo 23,926]

2 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Petracca got the full 10 coaches votes as well as BOG n every media outlet.

He has the midas touch and everything he does impacts the game. How often would a 18 possession, 3 goal game be a unanimous best on ground?

His impact on the contest is amazing. Just wait til he really heats up.  A 30 possession, 5 goal game will come soon enough.

Bontempelli like, doesn't get massive numbers but those he does really hurt.

[PaulRB 6,305]

10 hours ago, ProDee said:

Mitch Hannan crushes Dunn's ribs with that bruising clash in the last.

Fun fact:

We drafted Mitch Hannan with one of the picks we swapped when we traded Dunn to Collingwood.

 

I loved that Mitch accelerated into the collision. He's a goodun.

[brendan 3,433]

Just listened to watts goal on 3aw the roar just about broke my phone sent shivers up my spine 

[Engorged Onion 10,190]

3 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

You can listen to the last 5 minutes of the game with 3AW. Tim Lane's commentary is brilliant and I got goosebumps listening to the Watts goal. 

Can someone please dub this with the video footage like they did with the Hawthorn game last year?

http://www.3aw.com.au/live-footy-melbourne-v-collingwood-the-big-freeze-at-the-mcg/

Demonlander of the month award for posting this. Both a grin and a tear in the eye!

[Deestroy All 14,262]

Howe threw the ball more than Cameron Smith and none of them were pinged so I'm not buying the umpire bs. 

Taylor Adams was hilariously bad. Disposal, decision making, immortalising Jack Watts... hope he talks it up next time we play too. 

Watts' goal and reaction just gets better the more you watch it. Hopefully that footage is all that's brought up every QB now. From memory Watts has played very well in the last 3 Collingwood games. 

Oliver and Salem's 2nd halves were excellent. Whether it was instruction or Oliver's instinct the fact the he started kicking the ball out of congestion changed the game. Prior to that the Pies were all just hanging on the outside and feeding off us all going to the ball. 

Hibberd is a godsend and Tyson should be kissing his feet. 

Loved Hannan's attack on the ball and man. Happy that Dunn got up. But equally happy Hannan put his knee through his lungs. 

Petracca and Garlett were so dynamic it was so fun to watch. 

Apart from Oscar's 2 left foot blunders I thought he was very good. 

Great win and one of the most enjoyable replays you could care to watch. Edit: apart from hearing Tim Watson. How anyone can take him seriously when he tries to talk tactics after being one of the worst coaches of all times is beyond me. The guy is an idiot. 

Edited June 13, 2017 by Deestroy All

[chook fowler 19,304]

Thought Watts touching the Pendlebury shot at goal was as influential as his goal. It really has been one of those great stories.

[Sir Why You Little 36,761]

21 minutes ago, brendan said:

Just listened to watts goal on 3aw the roar just about broke my phone sent shivers up my spine 

Was some roar hey. Ch 7 turn down the crowd ambience. It sucks big time