POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 6

[What 18,810]

The icing on the cake

 

MEDICAL ROOM

Melbourne: The Demons got through unscathed, with their luck finally turning after repeated injuries and suspensions to start to the season.  

[faultydet 7,594]

1 minute ago, Webber said:

Obviously personal attacks make you feel better, so be it. Do you think TMac has any qualities, and if so, what are they? 

I quoted the post from Wiseblood, as it sums up my opinion of T Mac perfectly.

 

His zoning, flight judgement and interception are among the best in the league for a tall defender, and amongst the best I have ever seen from a tall Dees defender. I'm a big fan. He is the centrepiece of our defence, by quite some margin.

 

His kicking however, can be absolutely horrendous. Not all the time, but often enough to have an impact on his legacy.

 

Apologies for any offence.

[Webber 10,433]

Just now, beelzebub said:

Webber. I dont give a flying f what the media/footyworld/ or anyone here or there thinks or writes about football ( or much else )

I watch, observe and consider after as a result. T Mac took some excellent marks and executed some great defence. He also often executed his team mates with sloppy kicking and poor decisions.

How he manages , after all this time , to masacre elementary tasks still bewilders me.

I dont know how he fixes this, Should have done so by now for mine.

Arguably our most frustrating player.

An argument where for me he wouldn't even come into the conversation. 

[faultydet 7,594]

4 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

It just becomes tedious, I take my own advice and have to not read half the posts in a thread when I see who is posting

All players have faults

lol, I guess you made an exception for me.

 

I like T.Mac, but I can also fully understand the criticisms of his kicking.

It's possible to do both, tedious or not.

[Webber 10,433]

1 minute ago, faultydet said:

I quoted the post from Wiseblood, as it sums up my opinion of T Mac perfectly.

 

His zoning, flight judgement and interception are among the best in the league for a tall defender, and amongst the best I have ever seen from a tall Dees defender. I'm a big fan. He is the centrepiece of our defence, by quite some margin.

 

His kicking however, can be absolutely horrendous. Not all the time, but often enough to have an impact on his legacy.

 

Apologies for any offence.

Apology accepted, and it's great to hear his qualities given praise. 

[beelzebub 23,198]

3 minutes ago, Webber said:

An argument where for me he wouldn't even come into the conversation. 

Sorry. Have no idea what you mean  ?

[Gorgoroth 12,706]

It's more tmacs decisions, he chooses ridiculous options at times and that is where they cost us. 

Dunstall mentioned it on the coverage that he chose the hardest of 3-4 options and the option he chose was the on most likely to be turned over and make it easiest to score against us. 

That is his most frustrating attribute. If he limited/got that out of his game he would be AA every year.

Yes, all players make mistakes, Tmac causes more frustration as it is the same mistakes in the worst possible area of the ground. And he will make the same mistakes multiple times in the same game. 

Other than that, he is a bloody good defender.

[Webber 10,433]

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

Sorry. Have no idea what you mean  ?

You said arguably our most frustrating player. No argument from me. He isn't. 

[demonique 314]

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Anthony Hudson was one of my preferred commentators until today. Was he an Essendon fan growing up?

 

I think he is a Cat fan , but certainly seemed to have a bias against us. 

[DemonOX 8,699]

33 minutes ago, Webber said:

Tell me why all the game's commentators (TV and radio) thought he had a great game? What are your thoughts? 

Really is that what they r saying?

He had a good game but as I said some of his kicks were direct turnovers. 

If he eliminated most of his turnovers then imo he would have a great game. 

Dont get me wrong I like TMac but his kicking needs work which is not something new.  

Edited April 30, 2017 by DemonOX

[beelzebub 23,198]

1 minute ago, Webber said:

You said arguably our most frustrating player. No argument from me. He isn't. 

We differ. 

[jumbo returns 6,703]

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Surprised. He was cheering for Essendon today. 

Picking Oliver over Parish has to be one of the best recruiting decisions we have ever made. Parish looked like a lost boy.

 

He's like a medieval page boy from Chaucer's Canterbury Tales 

[Bang Bang Bang 5,765]

36 minutes ago, Webber said:

Tell me why all the game's commentators (TV and radio) thought he had a great game? What are your thoughts? 

Ummm Jason Dunstall consistently got stuck into TMac about 'biting off more than he can chew'. I reckon he said it at least 5 times.

[Webber 10,433]

Just now, Sylvia Saint said:

Ummm Jason Dunstall consistently got stuck into TMac about 'biting off more than he can chew'. I reckon he said it at least 5 times.

And he's not wrong, but there are also other commentators. 

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

2 minutes ago, Sylvia Saint said:

Ummm Jason Dunstall consistently got stuck into TMac about 'biting off more than he can chew'. I reckon he said it at least 5 times.

Jason loves giving it to us any chance he can get. Hope hes commentating next week when we play his old team..

[Sigil 1,001]

11 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

It's more tmacs decisions, he chooses ridiculous options at times and that is where they cost us. 

Dunstall mentioned it on the coverage that he chose the hardest of 3-4 options and the option he chose was the on most likely to be turned over and make it easiest to score against us. 

That is his most frustrating attribute. If he limited/got that out of his game he would be AA every year.

Yes, all players make mistakes, Tmac causes more frustration as it is the same mistakes in the worst possible area of the ground. And he will make the same mistakes multiple times in the same game. 

Other than that, he is a bloody good defender.

This.

His best is great, but his poor decision making is made so much more noticeable.

Other than rants in the GD threads I doubt many, even those who are critical would drop him.

[jumbo returns 6,703]

Paging AF....

Great way to start your first day of married life

[Lucifers Hero 38,982]

2 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Paging AF....

Great way to start your first day of married life

To page do this @A F

Echo your sentiments.  Great weekend for AF.  Married his great lady and a super demons win...as good as it gets, really.

[Guest]

Very good win in the circumstances. While not his best game Viney lead the way after half time.

 

[dazzledavey36 52,763]

55 minutes ago, Webber said:

I thought this might be the game after which Demonland gave rightful praise to Tom McDonald. I now realise that's never going to happen. Those people who continually (zzzzzzzzzzz........) criticise him for his imperfections are clearly unaware that the football world at large sees him as one of our most important players, our most important backmen, and one of the league's best. He got media votes today, but still gets shamelessly and pathetically pilloried on Demonland. 

Not by me.. He was very good. I actually like the Pedersen/McDonald combo better because Tommy with his huge tank gets around the ground like Mark Blicavs and he plays like an extra midfield. 

Really hope this stay because Tom's work rate and endurance around the ground could be a huge factor for us going forward.

[Bang Bang Bang 5,765]

16 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Jason loves giving it to us any chance he can get. Hope hes commentating next week when we play his old team..

To be honest I'm not a fan of his commentary, hyper critical to all teams, like he never made mistakes as a player. But he was spot on about TMac.

[Diamond_Jim 12,357]

Everyone has their bucket list and as well as an MFC flag mine includes visiting the graves of all Australia's deceased PM's.

Started it off today with a trip to see 5 at the MGC (Melbourne General Cemetery)... well Harold H Holt is not really there but his memorial is closest to the fountain which is somehow appropriate.

Anyway after wandering through the cemetery, reading lots of tombstones and dwelling on one's mortality I headed for Docklands only to find that it seemed  I was still at the cemetery. What a woeful first half.

My seat in the Gods only allowed me to see one end of the ground and frankly the sounds of Go Dyson and wonderful Jobe were getting to me. Accordingly at half time I sought the solace of the standing section behind the MFC cheer squad. Little did I know what was going to unfold. Joy to my old eyes.

For the last quarter I wandered the outer reaches like a lost soul daring to dream until with 10 minutes to go the Bomber faithful gave up and I scored a seat.

Ten minutes of bliss..... Thank you MFC

Now... do it next week as well !!!

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

1 hour ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Because they are mostly feral illiterates.

Thankyou Uncle Bitters....I always learn so much here on Demonland..

[Jaded No More 67,644]

Things I've learnt watching this game from the skies at Etihad

1. The TV screens they think are useful are not. I have a bigger tv in my bathroom. Thanks for nothing. 

2. Melksham is a double agent who is secretly trying to make us lose games 

3. Salem, Watts, Lewis- there's no substitute for class and kicking ability 

4. Tyson- just no. His kicking is not even under 6 standard

5. JHK fumbles galore. Goodbye

6. Pedo always comes in and does his best to play a role. And he did. And he helped us win today. Very happy for him!

7. Jetta so deserving of a win for this milestone game 

8. Etihad is the worst stadium. The food and facilities in a third world country stadium would beat it hands down 

 

[Diamond_Jim 12,357]

1 minute ago, Jaded said:

Things I've learnt watching this game from the skies at Etihad

1. The TV screens they think are useful are not. I have a bigger tv in my bathroom. Thanks for nothing. 

 

And even then they effectively take half of the screen away with advertising... as you say useless