Michael Hibberd and Michael Hurley

[binman 38,035]

13 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Can someone please copy and paste the article.

cheers.

For the millionth time simply go to the article and copy and search the text belwo the headline ie this

BANNED Essendon defender Michael Hibberd is likely to request a move to Melbourne in a decision that could trigger a trade standoff between the clubs. The Herald Sun understands the Demons are increasingly confident of landing Hibberd

by doing so you will get around the firewall. Funnily enough when you now do it now says at the top of the article: Use keywords to search content on this website

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Just now, Roost It said:

Is Hibberd any good?

 

Yes, he is.  That's the short answer.  He's a great user of the footy, calm under pressure and has a good motor.  He will be a very handy addition to our backline.

[Roost It 1,434]

Just now, Wiseblood said:

Yes, he is.  That's the short answer.  He's a great user of the footy, calm under pressure and has a good motor.  He will be a very handy addition to our backline.

Are you a good judge of footballers?

 

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Just now, Roost It said:

Are you a good judge of footballers?

 

The best.

[In Harmes Way 7,492]

18 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Can someone please copy and paste the article.

cheers.

DD, if you type the exact story headline into Google, and then click on the link to the story, it bypasses the subscriber firewall

[Lucifers Hero 37,009]

Ironically, today the AFL said it is ok for players and clubs to talk trades during the season as long as they don't get caught are discreet: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-12/afl-advises-discretion-when-dealing-with-opposition-players?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=RSS+feed%3A+AFL+Latest+News

Laughable that Ess have their knickers in a twist over MFC talking with him!! 

Edited July 12, 2016 by Lucifer's Hero

[jnrmac 18,954]

56 minutes ago, Canplay said:

Worst club to trade with -  this will be interesting if he decides on Dees -  just need to hold the line -  we paid overs for Jake, they can take a little under value for Hibbert.

Adrian Dodoro is the worst list manager by far to deal with. Let's get Hibberd to go the breach of contract route. Will save time and effort rather than dealing with Dodoro

 

[rjay 23,910]

20 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

I think more to the point is that the AFL will want Essendon to get something decent for losing players. They've lost face over the bans and will want Ess to bounce back and be competitive next year aiming for the finals. Gill will ensure they don't get screwed.

Not if they're trying to do the dirty on Brisbane and working to get one of theirs to go to them (EFC) via the PSD as someone posted recently.

 

[DemonDave 1,078]

There isn't a single new thing in this article, no quotes from any new source other than the always reliable "Club source":

"The Bombers’ confidence in keeping Hibberd is starting to wane. Last night a club source said he was a 50-50 chance at best of staying"

More column inch filler from Murdoch's minions

[daisycutter 28,517]

51 minutes ago, 1 red eye 1 blue eye said:

Hopefully the idea is "you'll accept this as it is a reasonable trade or......."

they owe us anyway. we paid overs for melksham and then he had to sit it out for 12 months, so they did ok there

yeah i know, there was a certain amount of caveat emptor but they still came out ahead

[Nasher 33,047]

23 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

So it's okay for the club to totally disrespect them and take away a year of their footballing careers, but it's not okay for them to be able to walk away from the club to play elsewhere?  What tosh.

It's more complicated than that. For some, even if they do feel duped, they'd feel duped by Hird and his cronies, not by "Essendon". "Essendon" to the players would mean the jumper they play for, the fans that love them, the good wins they've had, the fans that back them. 

For others, perhaps Hibberd, perhaps they do feel duped by "Essendon", but don't feel the need to punish Worsfold, the other players or the new administration - all of whom are totally innocent, by totally burning them.

I don't think it's as black and white as some would make out.

[spirit of norm smith 12,907]

Would we trade Matt Jones for Hibberd?? (yes). That's an option.

[braysure 17]

2 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Would we trade Matt Jones for Hibberd?? (yes). That's an option.

Theres a snowballs chance in hell essendon would take him

[Ricky P 757]

Come on Dees! Pick at the carcass!

[Willmoy1947 3,773]

Are we talking about the same Essendon that has treated the competition with contempt in the name of mad drug infused rise up the ladder to get a premiership!!!

[Cards13 9,117]

1 hour ago, braysure said:

That is disgusting I bleed blue and red. But I do feel sorry for essendon because of the ill-informed hatred they get from every other club's supporters. Too many people read a Herald Sun headline bagging essendon and they form that same view. It's just annoying to see stupid arguments proposed by non-essendon fans based on the dribble the herald sun write. 

Erhm the HS has been the biggest Ess advocate possible?!

[Binmans PA 26,053]

I'd try to get both Hibberd and Hurley to enact their clauses and go through the DFA route. However, the AFL won't want that and will discourage this. If so, I'd look at trading Grimes to Essendon for Hibberd and I'd discuss Salem for Hurley.

Edited July 12, 2016 by AdamFphlebeb

[DemonLad5 1,637]

4 minutes ago, AdamFphlebeb said:

I'd try to get both Hibberd and Hurley to enact their clauses and go through the DFA route. However, the AFL won't want that and will discourage this. If so, I'd look at trading Grimes to Essendon for Hibberd and I'd discuss Salem for Hurley.

Grimes is a FA, Salem is contracted and there is no way in the world the AFL will allow us to get both as a DFA

[faultydet 7,593]

3 minutes ago, AdamFphlebeb said:

I'd try to get both Hibberd and Hurley to enact their clauses and go through the DFA route. However, the AFL won't want that and will discourage this. If so, I'd look at trading Grimes to Essendon for Hibberd and I'd discuss Salem for Hurley.

Mate......

Its dodo. He will want an early first round pick for Hibberd, and 2 x first round picks for Hurley.

Just for once, lets do the sensible thing for our club, tell both essendrug, and the afl to go to hell, and do everything we can to get both of these blokes for free. Anything less would be taking the pissant option yet again. If the law is there, lets use it.

 

[beelzebub 22,225]

1 hour ago, braysure said:

Theres a snowballs chance in hell essendon would take him

Forecast is pretty cold 

[CBDees 3,162]

3 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Mate......

Its dodo. He will want an early first round pick for Hibberd, and 2 x first round picks for Hurley.

Just for once, lets do the sensible thing for our club, tell both essendrug, and the afl to go to hell, and do everything we can to get both of these blokes for free. Anything less would be taking the pissant option yet again. If the law is there, lets use it.

 

I'm with you Faulty, especially as Hinberd, Hurley and Melksham are all managed by Connors (as is Jack Watts)! If we can legally get them as (technically) out-of-contract available players let's do it. If we have to chuck in Terlich, Dunn or Garland to offset EFC's loss of key defenders, so be it. No point being too hard-nosed.

[faultydet 7,593]

1 minute ago, CBDees said:

I'm with you Faulty, especially as Hinberd, Hurley and Melksham are all managed by Connors (as is Jack Watts)! If we can legally get them as (technically) out-of-contract available players let's do it. If we have to chuck in Terlich, Dunn or Garland to offset EFC's loss of key defenders, so be it. No point being too hard-nosed.

Ah, not sure how we pick them up as de-listed free agents on one hand, then "chuck in" Terls/Dunn/Garland......

I say lets be hard nosed. They deserve nothing less.

 

[CBDees 3,162]

1 minute ago, faultydet said:

Ah, not sure how we pick them up as de-listed free agents on one hand, then "chuck in" Terls/Dunn/Garland......

I say lets be hard nosed. They deserve nothing less.

 

Are they out-of-contract or delisted-free-agents? If we can just pick them up without having to trade anything, I am all for it. I thought we may have to fabricate a "token" trade merely so that they didn't need to go into the Draft (where we don't have a low pick).

[faultydet 7,593]

Just now, CBDees said:

Are they out-of-contract or delisted-free-agents? If we can just pick them up without having to trade anything, I am all for it. I thought we may have to fabricate a "token" trade merely so that they didn't need to go into the Draft (where we don't have a low pick).

Throughout the entire fiasco, I have been reading that the players can elect to leave as "delisted free agents", under the breach of care law. That means we can poach them for nothing. All it requires is that our club, and the players concerned have the backbone to advise the afl that they will exercise that right, under threat of court proceedings.

And from what I have been reading on Demonland, that's what the roadblock seems to be.

A lack of spine. Typical.

[beelzebub 22,225]

They can walk if they choose to . But will they. 

They can institute a grievance procedure via the AFL. The result would see contracts dissolved and they become DFA. Can do what and where they like thereafter. No compensation to their former club.

Interesting days.