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9 minutes ago, schmuttt said:

If he requests a trade he will leave this year. Freo should do better next year and won't have a top 5 pick.

 

Reckon he signs on till he is a FA, then probably goes.

The probably will all depend on how the team are doing. If we are on the cusp of winning a flag he would stay, if we aren't he goes, and if we have won a flag it could go either way as it could be a case of job done, now go back to WA and surf with my mates. 

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42 minutes ago, schmuttt said:

If he requests a trade he will leave this year. Freo should do better next year and won't have a top 5 pick.

 

Reckon he signs on till he is a FA, then probably goes.

If he signs on till he's a FA under current rules, then it's a 5 year (or 4, don't think that 17yr old season counts) contract...I'm happy to roll the dice on that kind of time period.

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21 hours ago, Tessaract said:

I have felt that Jesse is not worth the attention monetarily and skills wise for many weeks. Whether it be the injury or form or age...my guts tell me he is not the standard we should uphold as being a path to success  (with regards to the role he currently fills(Its not the shortcomings but how he may (not) addresses them. He will mature and become an important player for a team...but is it our team?...we lack inforcers...I have been thinking of brisbane in the early 2000s and lauding the scott bros toughness...forwards are only as good as their servants...? Not a criticism of you or others who have diferent ideas; I wish to contribute however misguided.

Could I please have some of whatever you are taking?

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If he signs on for five years, reaching free agency, then by the time the contract is up we'll either be a first rate club or trying to salvage the rubble all over again.

Just think, who else will be in their mid or late 20s by then - if they haven't come along to be a core group of at least a dozen first-rate players, we're screwed.

30/31 - Watts, Jetta, Garlett

 28/29 - Melksham, Gawn, Trengove, Vandenberg, T. McDonald, Tyson, Bugg, 

26/27 - Kent, Kennedy, Viney, Wagner, Hogan, Hunt, Salem

24/25 - Harmes, Petracca, Brayshaw, Neal-Bullen, O. MCdonald, Stretch, Weideman, Oliver

 

Wow, looking at that, Hogan would have to be mad to leave! :)

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My feeling is that Jesse will sign a 5 year deal with us and it will be around the 1 mil a year mark. But for all his talk about how good the team is progressing he also needs to consider the amount he gets paid and that if he gets paid an excess amount he could potentially hurt our chances of maintaining the core group of good young players coming through. 

The club just needs to keep giving him reasons to stay and less reasons to go! Also get him attached to a Victorian Girlfriend who doesn't want to leave!

As for his quality, the attributes are there but for me a weapon he really should be better at given his size is kicking beyond 45m. I hope over the off season it's something the coaching staff really look at improving as well as his general run up. I don't have the biggest confidence in his accuracy despite the stats saying he's usually quite good. 

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6 minutes ago, Demanding Success said:

There is an article in the age. He looks like he is staying

Article says nothing new. 

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-2016-melbourne-demons-skipper-nathan-jones-not-worried-by-jesse-hogan-frenzy-20160722-gqc1pc.html

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2 minutes ago, america de cali said:

they never do...recycled bird cage poop paper...tis all

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It's ridiculous that he is playing in Perth this weekend for his footy team that he is employed with and has a job to do and the media find this a reason to say he is back home in Perth and bring up the contract stuff again. 

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Brad Hill met with Ross Lyon about a move... With the focus now on Mccarthy and Hill, maybe Jesse really is staying?

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1 hour ago, Mickey said:

Brad Hill met with Ross Lyon about a move... With the focus now on Mccarthy and Hill, maybe Jesse really is staying?

Not sure that either Hill or McCarthy joining Freo impacts their ability to entice Hogan next year. Neither player will be on big coin, and I don't see Freo giving up a lot of either.

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1 hour ago, Mickey said:

Brad Hill met with Ross Lyon about a move... With the focus now on Mccarthy and Hill, maybe Jesse really is staying?

Hill would be a big loss for Hawthorn I would have thought. Is that cliff coming up? I know that sounds ridiculous given their position on the ladder, but it has to happen some time.

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1 hour ago, Mickey said:

Brad Hill met with Ross Lyon about a move... With the focus now on Mccarthy and Hill, maybe Jesse really is staying?

Brad Hill is not anywhere near being in Hawthorns top 15 players. He does the occasional useful thing but he's a passenger on the Hawthorn bus. His team mates carry him for the most part. No loss to the hawks if he goes. Clanger numbers go down with him out of their side.

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16 minutes ago, AdamFphlebeb said:

Hill would be a big loss for Hawthorn I would have thought. Is that cliff coming up? I know that sounds ridiculous given their position on the ladder, but it has to happen some time.

He has been a good player for them, but over the past season or so his performances haven't been as good. A few Hawthorn supporters I know would be happy for him to leave & see him as a bit of a liability. Personally I think he adds a lot of run to their team & would be happy to have him at Melbourne as it's what we are crying out for. The other issue with Hill is (that if you believe rumours) he was at the centre of the Grand Final day aftermath scandal & there is also the assault charges that he had laid from a night club scuffle. 

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4 minutes ago, pineapple dee said:

Brad Hill is not anywhere near being in Hawthorns top 15 players. He does the occasional useful thing but he's a passenger on the Hawthorn bus. His team mates carry him for the most part. No loss to the hawks if he goes. Clanger numbers go down with him out of their side.

He's slightly better than Leroy Jetta. He'll struggle in an average side.

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13 minutes ago, Bonkers said:

He has been a good player for them, but over the past season or so his performances haven't been as good. A few Hawthorn supporters I know would be happy for him to leave & see him as a bit of a liability. Personally I think he adds a lot of run to their team & would be happy to have him at Melbourne as it's what we are crying out for. The other issue with Hill is (that if you believe rumours) he was at the centre of the Grand Final day aftermath scandal & there is also the assault charges that he had laid from a night club scuffle. 

Little-man-syndrome, huh?

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35 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Not sure that either Hill or McCarthy joining Freo impacts their ability to entice Hogan next year. Neither player will be on big coin, and I don't see Freo giving up a lot of either.

I was more referring to the thought that he might ask for a trade this year, rather than leaving as uncontracted next year. 

You are right re: coin, and I don't think either us or freo will struggle to fit him in. But just maybe Freo are moving on to meeting other players, because they know Jesse isn't leaving

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3 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Hogan must stand up this weekend ...

That's nice and all smithy but what does that have to do with his contract? 

This guy's head looks like a thumb.

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11 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Hogan must stand up this weekend ...

I agree.  He won't get a touch sitting down.

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13 goals in the last 7 games. Hardly enough. We could have beaten Adelaide, West Coast and yes even the Hawks with a switched on Hogan.  Just an observation that Jesse is not appearing to be desperate and ultra competitive recently.

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Just now, spirit of norm smith said:

13 goals in the last 7 games. Hardly enough. We could have beaten Adelaide, West Coast and yes even the Hawks with a switched on Hogan.  Just an observation that Jesse is not appearing to be desperate and ultra competitive recently.

Now I understand!  Our losses are all Jesse's fault.  How dare a 20 year old kid with the weight of the club on his shoulders have a few down weeks.  Trade him I say!

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On 7/26/2016 at 9:42 PM, spirit of norm smith said:

13 goals in the last 7 games. Hardly enough. We could have beaten Adelaide, West Coast and yes even the Hawks with a switched on Hogan.  Just an observation that Jesse is not appearing to be desperate and ultra competitive recently.

He's on track to kick 50 goals this year, as effectively a second year player. 

Adelaide he played on Talia who beats everyone

West coast he copped Mcgoven who's a bloody good defender

Hawks he copped Chip Frawley who is beating most forwards 

I am not the least bit worried about Jesse as a player, he's going along beautifully.

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It was an observation from someone who has watched all the games.  I again laugh at the schoolboy posts of others (eat another banana lads, and climb back in the trees... is that our standard of posts).

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10 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

13 goals in the last 7 games. Hardly enough. We could have beaten Adelaide, West Coast and yes even the Hawks with a switched on Hogan.  Just an observation that Jesse is not appearing to be desperate and ultra competitive recently.

Almost 2 a game. Averaging about the same as last year. Been a tough 2 month period for not only him, but the team. I think we're like 2-5 or 1-6 in that period. 

Silly comment, anyway. He's been among our best on many occasions, but has had 2 poor games.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pg-melbourne-demons--jesse-hogan

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