Richmond - delusional?

[Sir Why You Little 36,989]

14 minutes ago, dee-luded said:

Carlton have been tanking for a couple of past years,  so weren't as bad as they appeared.  Malthouse was used to spite the pies,  & to be a scapegoat once the blues had realised there was to be no fairy-tale early in MnM's coaching stint.

Since that point they had inner disagreements between rebuild ideas, & they also layed down for the list..

so the list wasn't as bad as they looked in games last year.

 

Richmond they found a way to win. 

Comedy Festival is upon us...

[Tony Tea 2,806]

Tigers scrambled a win and Blues looked much better.

Lose. Lose.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

20 minutes ago, Tony Tea said:

Tigers scrambled a win and Blues looked much better.

Lose. Lose.

Tiges wanted to blow away the Blues and set their season up. Worst possible way to win for them. Now the doubts have set in already. A loss wouldn't have been much worse.

Blues ... well let's see how they hold up. The Tiges may have flattered them.

[Dee Dee 1,105]

37 minutes ago, Ted Fidge said:

 

Blues ... well let's see how they hold up. The Tiges may have flattered them.

The Blooz surprised me last night. Richmond went in with the old "this'll be a cakewalk" attitude and boy oh boy did they get a shock. And I thought the blooz were quite good, shoulda won!

And-

Sheet, that Cripps kid goes OK

 

[Deecisive 1,709]

The blues did look to have improved, though the tigers did help them by playing so poorly.  I sometime wonder if the tigers would be better without Jack Riewoldt he seems to have an awful lot of off days.

[Deestroy All 14,262]

The Cotchin thread on PuntRoadEnd is hilarious. 

Theres no meat left on that carcass. 

[Je Roos Salem 661]

They're so mediocre and their best players are still unreliable. That said they'll probably win 7 in a row in the 2nd half of the season and make an EF but we're a good chance against them

[dee-luded 2,959]

7 hours ago, Dee Dee said:

The Blooz surprised me last night. Richmond went in with the old "this'll be a cakewalk" attitude and boy oh boy did they get a shock. And I thought the blooz were quite good, shoulda won!

And-

Sheet, that Cripps kid goes OK

 

shoulda coulda woulda,  but didn't.

so who really deserved to win?  surely the ones who were ahead when the whistle blew.

 

from what I saw the blooz had enormous run & carry,  high tempo?  And run energy,  the Tiges played a bit more of a long kicking from the bits I saw. & appeared slower.

[Nasher 33,607]

23 minutes ago, Deestroy All said:

The Cotchin thread on PuntRoadEnd is hilarious. 

Theres no meat left on that carcass. 

Whenever I read other forums, all I see is ridiculous hyperbole, or overanalysis that draws long bows to the point of being complete nonsense. It makes me wonder if Demonland is the same and I've just become insensitive to it. Case in point in that Cotchin thread:
Big call but my impressions from him is he doesn't really care about footy. He has other endeavours. I can see him being the type to retire at 28-29. Fire in the eyes or lack of is right. I've seen him in interviews after a bad loss or bad individual performance and he doesn't come across as being angry or upset like most players.

Looks happy to just be a player. I think the responsibility of being the captain has a lot to do with it. Drained him because he's not capable.

 

[Maple Demon 449]

3 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Whenever I read other forums, all I see is ridiculous hyperbole, or overanalysis that draws long bows to the point of being complete nonsense. It makes me wonder if Demonland is the same and I've just become insensitive to it. 

 

You are always going to get some that routinely go over the top on forums for each club.   In my opinion, most people on Demonland can discuss their opinions in a mature manner.

[Sir Why You Little 36,989]

34 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Whenever I read other forums, all I see is ridiculous hyperbole, or overanalysis that draws long bows to the point of being complete nonsense. It makes me wonder if Demonland is the same and I've just become insensitive to it. Case in point in that Cotchin thread:
Big call but my impressions from him is he doesn't really care about footy. He has other endeavours. I can see him being the type to retire at 28-29. Fire in the eyes or lack of is right. I've seen him in interviews after a bad loss or bad individual performance and he doesn't come across as being angry or upset like most players.

Looks happy to just be a player. I think the responsibility of being the captain has a lot to do with it. Drained him because he's not capable.

 

Pretty good analysis from a 9thmond member..

[dee-luded 2,959]

39 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Whenever I read other forums, all I see is ridiculous hyperbole, or overanalysis that draws long bows to the point of being complete nonsense. It makes me wonder if Demonland is the same and I've just become insensitive to it. Case in point in that Cotchin thread:
Big call but my impressions from him is he doesn't really care about footy. He has other endeavours. I can see him being the type to retire at 28-29. Fire in the eyes or lack of is right. I've seen him in interviews after a bad loss or bad individual performance and he doesn't come across as being angry or upset like most players.

Looks happy to just be a player. I think the responsibility of being the captain has a lot to do with it. Drained him because he's not capable.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Pretty good analysis from a 9thmond member..

 exhibit 'A' your honor 

[dazzledavey36 54,337]

I can see Trent Cotchin doing exactly what Ryan Griffen did when hes contract is up.

Edited March 25, 2016 by dazzledavey36

[Deestroy All 14,262]

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I can see Trent Cotchin doing exactly what Ryan Griffen did when hes contract is up.

He already had offers from Hawthorn to go and play for Box Hill. 

[Little Goffy 14,463]

It was a very open game, from what I noticed. That suited Carlton's style quite well. In the end they just tired, stopped connecting with eachother and the ball movement broke down.

If Carlton had had any true forwards available, or simply kicked straight early on, would have been a different result.

 

Oodly, Carlton were actually ahead of Richmond for age and experience.

It is very hard to place exactly what the status of Carlton's list is - last year they had injuries and poor form limiting a number of their should-be-stars. Plus Malthouse was coaching them and much of the playing group actively hated him.

Richmond on the other hand - they have 8 very good players and then fillers.Carlton's fillers outperformed Richmond's, maybe just because they don't know they are fillers, while the two-class culture at Richmond is deeply ingrained. At least as far back as Wallace! This is why I think they'll never go all the way with this team.

[Deestroy All 14,262]

Richmond are soft, and I'm surprised it's not highlighted more. Quite a few soft players, but just as a team they're soft, front runners. It's no surprise they can't win a final. 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

I'm still baffled as to why the media gives the Tigers a rub.  They have a few quality players but, outside of those, there isn't much else going on.  Look at the blokes they added - Townsend just wants to whack people and Rioli is a few years away.  If they were pushing for a premiership then Rioli doesn't play as there isn't a spot for him.  What else do they have?  

[dee-luded 2,959]

2 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

It was a very open game, from what I noticed. That suited Carlton's style quite well. In the end they just tired, stopped connecting with eachother and the ball movement broke down.

If Carlton had had any true forwards available, or simply kicked straight early on, would have been a different result.

 

Oodly, Carlton were actually ahead of Richmond for age and experience.

It is very hard to place exactly what the status of Carlton's list is - last year they had injuries and poor form limiting a number of their should-be-stars. Plus Malthouse was coaching them and much of the playing group actively hated him.

Richmond on the other hand - they have 8 very good players and then fillers.Carlton's fillers outperformed Richmond's, maybe just because they don't know they are fillers, while the two-class culture at Richmond is deeply ingrained. At least as far back as Wallace! This is why I think they'll never go all the way with this team.

true. I didn't see the first half.  but assumed it was because of the rotation numbers...  or I hoped so,  as I want to see more of that openness.  it makes fro more spontaneous creativity & excitement. 

... & less tactical from the engineers on the sidelines.

the blooz traditionally are running sides,  moreso than Tiges,  who traditionally are long kicking, high marking sides.

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[Bombay Airconditioning 6,363]

On 24 March 2016 at 9:03 AM, Bombay Airconditioning said:

 

Richmond are a mess and as Clint alluded to they won't play finals.

Pies MCG - loss

Adelaide MCG - 50/50

Eagles WA - loss

Dees MCG - loss

Port MCG - loss

Hawks MCG - loss

Sydney MCG - loss

Freo WA - loss

Bombers MCG - win

North BA - loss 

Suns MCG - win

Lion MCG - 50/50 with Beams and Rocky 

Port AO - loss 

Bulldogs E - loss 

Bombers MCG - win

Hawks MCG - loss

Giants SPOTLESS - loss

Pies MCG - loss 

Cats MCG - loss

Saints E - 50/50 they are now mentally shot

Swans SCG - loss

 

They are in massive trouble, and they just extended Hardwick's contract to stop this kind of speculation. I am aware they beat Hawks/Freo/Port/Sydney last year but I don't think this will be the case this time around.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Start ticking them off at your leisure.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,363]

Sucked in to any one associated with the rabble, they continue to think they're part of something special, they're part of nothing. 

[Deestroy All 14,262]

Will struggle to make 9th. 

[picket fence 17,072]

Leaders again let them down when going got tough!

Where was Cotchin that last Q??

[Adam The God 30,136]

On 3/25/2016 at 8:37 PM, Deestroy All said:

The Cotchin thread on PuntRoadEnd is hilarious. 

Theres no meat left on that carcass. 

I haven't read it, but rightfully so. He's no leader.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,363]

6 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Leaders again let them down when going got tough!

Where was Cotchin that last Q??

It's hard to spot him with his head ducked all the time.

[Skuit 10,031]

His kicking on goals seems to follow the trajectory of his hair.