Post Match Discussion - Round 8

[DeeSpencer 25,716]

Nope. Grimes should go. His disposal and decision making is still VFL standard. And go around again, Gus. We need you.

His decision making has improved somewhat (on limited exposure so far), his work rate is high, his marking improved and his contested work improved. It's foolish to suggest he's 'fixed' as a player and the way he kicks is still a huge concern for a modern AFL backman but he's safe in the team for at least another week. Some of the marks he took were first rate under pressure. Lumumba would go before Grimes.

[Lucifers Hero 39,852]

Goodes gets 1 week for bump on Jones!

Garlett issue not referred so free to play vs Port

[Akum 2,660]

They dogs should of gone after mcafter muck cheaper and more mole

Did you get this sentence from Eurovision?

[Akum 2,660]

His decision making has improved somewhat (on limited exposure so far), his work rate is high, his marking improved and his contested work improved. It's foolish to suggest he's 'fixed' as a player and the way he kicks is still a huge concern for a modern AFL backman but he's safe in the team for at least another week. Some of the marks he took were first rate under pressure. Lumumba would go before Grimes.

His reading of the play and anticipation is also excellent. At times he seemed to just will himself to be first to the ball to not let it get past him.

[dazzledavey36 54,948]

Its good to see Jack Grimes enjoy a win. I have seriously felt for this bloke and if anyone that deserves a bit of success its Jack Grimes. Been through some horrid losses during his time

To make it even more sweeter he played a beauty of the game. I hope he continues his form and stays in for the rest of the year.

[The Reverend 1,736]

I guess it says a lot about our past eight years and depths of despair to which we sank.

We are so pumped up ( me included ) after that good win yesterday that we easily forget that it was against a team

dwelling in the same bottom half of the competition as ourselves.

It is a good sign that we were able to beat the dogs but it is still a win against a lower ranked team.

The next two weeks will be interesting

We are playing two sides who have resided in the upper half of the competition over the last few years.

A win against one or both of them would really prove we are on the way out of the irrelevance camp.

I would love to beat the pies that would make my year.

If we get over the Power next week, and I think it's a big possibility, we will be unstoppable against the Pies. I told you we'd beat the dogs and we did. Time to have some faith OD.

[old dee 23,792]

If we get over the Power next week, and I think it's a big possibility, we will be unstoppable against the Pies. I told you we'd beat the dogs and we did. Time to have some faith OD.

so what does she say Reverend dowe win?

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

It will be interesting to see how he handles Lobbe and Ryder.

Let's bathe in the glory of his last game for a few more days at least Clint!

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

FROM FOX FOOTY:

BOYD OH BOYD

IT might be the most expensive handball of the AFL season.

Western Bulldogs recruit Tom Boyd was subbed out of the Bulldogs-Melbourne clash after accumulating just one handball and one hit-out.

Boyd left the GWS Giants at the end of last season and signed a deal worth $6 million over six years.

HOWE-ZAT?

Jeremy Howe was a revelation in defence last season, but he’s failed to have the same impact in 2015.

Paul Roos returned the high flyer to the forward line against the Dogs and he played one of his best games for the season.

Howe took a season high seven marks and kicked one goal from his 18 touches.

In the absence of Chris Dawes, Howe added a different dimension to the Dees attack alongside big units Jesse Hogan and Cam Pedersen.

Another Howe hanger

0:32

JACK’S BACK

JACK Watts returned to the side after a week in the VFL and looked more at home playing in a high half forward/wing role.

He dropped behind the ball when required and his composure with the possession shone. The reality is that Watts is not a power forward, so expect his form to lift as he settles into a peripheral role where his attacking weapons can shine.

BACK TO GO FORWARD

JACK Fitzpatrick switched from forward to defence during the pre-season and played his first senior match in this new role on Sunday arvo.

His height and athleticism makes him a versatile defender and he made an impression on the Dees faithful with five marks opposed to Tom Boyd.

CAREER BEST

FORMER No. 4 draft pick Jimmy Toumpas played the best of his 22 games for the Dees, gathering 20 touches, kicking two goals and laying six tackles.

His running capacity is building and therefore his ability to break the lines is emerging. The 21-year-old far more composed with the ball. Hopefully this a springboard for the youngster.

Edited May 25, 2015 by The Song Formerly Known As

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

I'm an unabashed Dawes fan - his tackles, his blocks, his spoils ,his 1%er's are valuable - unfortunately it is not enough if you are a key forward and not taking marks, kicking a few goals or at least handing them off. Pedo doesn't add as much pressure as Dawes but when Pedo is playing as he is now he takes marks and kicks goals and that is the prime aim of a forward. Kick 2 goals a games and you are a 40 goal a year forward - yes please.

Def not arguing the "effort" factor with Dawes either nut. I just think Pedo is more of an X factor when he is on. Defensively i'm not sure he adds a great deal more but on the "attack at ball/and carrier" when it's within his area i just think he is way more dangerous and as you say, likely to kick a few goals a game which is what forwards are supposed to do (along with goal assists etc).

While not a great chaser/tackler i also think his tank allows him to cover both ends of the ground a little more (when needed) and take a few more crucial marks around the ground as well.

Edited May 25, 2015 by Rusty Nails

[old dee 23,792]

Def not arguing the "effort" factor with Dawes either nut. I just think Pedo is more of an X factor when he is on. Defensively i'm not sure he adds a great deal more but on the "attack at ball/and carrier" when it's within his area i just think he is way more dangerous and as you say, likely to kick a few goals a game which is what forwards are supposed to do (along with goal assists etc).

While not a great chaser/tackler i also think his tank allows him to cover both ends of the ground a little more (when needed) and take a few more crucial marks around the ground as well.

And amazingly for a forward when he gets his hands to the ball it usually sticks!

[At Least I Saw a Flag 5,249]

My kids & I all love Pedo. We take a file to matches to record his contributions . Austin Powers, eat your heart out!! ;-)

[Bitter but optimistic 22,241]

I can only assume one of three things given your self declared precognition; 1) that things improve dramatically for us in the coming years, 2) you are a masochist, or 3) you want to sound smarter than you are.

I'm fairly sure the latter is the short odds. If not, feel free to PM me the lotto numbers for the weekend.

Get your hand off it Mord! OD was making the type of comment we all make when discussing footy (opinion type stuff). Don't make a big deal just post your own viewpoint!

[Lucifers Hero 39,852]

FROM FOX FOOTY:

BOYD OH BOYD

IT might be the most expensive handball of the AFL season.

Western Bulldogs recruit Tom Boyd was subbed out of the Bulldogs-Melbourne clash after accumulating just one handball and one hit-out.

Boyd left the GWS Giants at the end of last season and signed a deal worth $6 million over six years.

HOWE-ZAT?

Jeremy Howe was a revelation in defence last season, but he’s failed to have the same impact in 2015.

Paul Roos returned the high flyer to the forward line against the Dogs and he played one of his best games for the season.

Howe took a season high seven marks and kicked one goal from his 18 touches.

In the absence of Chris Dawes, Howe added a different dimension to the Dees attack alongside big units Jesse Hogan and Cam Pedersen.

Another Howe hanger

0:32

JACK’S BACK

JACK Watts returned to the side after a week in the VFL and looked more at home playing in a high half forward/wing role.

He dropped behind the ball when required and his composure with the possession shone. The reality is that Watts is not a power forward, so expect his form to lift as he settles into a peripheral role where his attacking weapons can shine.

BACK TO GO FORWARD

JACK Fitzpatrick switched from forward to defence during the pre-season and played his first senior match in this new role on Sunday arvo.

His height and athleticism makes him a versatile defender and he made an impression on the Dees faithful with five marks opposed to Tom Boyd.

CAREER BEST

FORMER No. 4 draft pick Jimmy Toumpas played the best of his 22 games for the Dees, gathering 20 touches, kicking two goals and laying six tackles.

His running capacity is building and therefore his ability to break the lines is emerging. The 21-year-old far more composed with the ball. Hopefully this a springboard for the youngster.

Thanks Song, I've bookmarked this to quote when DL's get into these guys when they next have a poor game, which they will.

I've noticed that since Jack 'dropped himself' and the respected voices of Carey, Darcy and Lyon stuck up for him there hasn't been any bad press (except that idiot purple) and some commentators are writing/saying good stuff without qualification.

May it continue!

Edited May 25, 2015 by Lucifer's Hero

[old dee 23,792]

Sorry to keep flogging an old dee, but you have tried to defend your wobbly position twice by quoting hindsight, both times inappropriately. There is a very good chance that Bail would have known the siren was going to go very soon - that's what all those guys with loud voices on the bench are for.

Now it has all been said.....

Seems like you were determined to have the last word sue

[old dee 23,792]

Get your hand off it Mord! OD was making the type of comment we all make when discussing footy (opinion type stuff). Don't make a big deal just post your own viewpoint!

seems like some people can only disagree by derison Bbo.

[Yossarian 1,820]

Apologies if this has been done already, or if no one is as appreciative of a little schadenfreude as myself. If not, have a read of the predicted margins from the first page:

http://www.woof.net.au/forum/showthread.php?14531-Game-Day-Round-8-2015-Melbourne-V-Western-Bulldogs

"I think that today we really have to make a statement. We need to be ruthless and really go for Melbourne's jugular. I calculate that, if we win, we'll go to 7th and if we win by ~110 points, we'll go to 6th - just behind the Pies.

In an even season like this, we need to put some teams away and really build up our percentage. I'm not tipping a 110 point win, but I think we should be setting ourselves 9+ goals."

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

A number of tackles didn't stick today. I believe we beat that tackle count against Adelaide and Richmond. So it is very achievable.

Our tackles against the Crows was high, but theirs was higher, think about 110 and it was the first time Adelaide had laid over 100 tackles in a match

[sue 9,107]

Seems like you were determined to have the last word sue

yes. One of us had better stop....

Just saw the replay and I'm even happier to keep going. Happier to agree to differ.

[Red and Bluebeard 2,084]

No 31,looks like a decent chap.

Daisy Pearce you mean?

[CBDees 3,167]

For those who missed the match, the full replay can be viewed on Demonology on the following link:

http://demonology.me/pages/fullreplays/

[Moonshadow 17,676]

My kids & I all love Pedo.

Wrong in so many ways bingers!

[DemonOX 8,791]

Apologies if this has been done already, or if no one is as appreciative of a little schadenfreude as myself. If not, have a read of the predicted margins from the first page:

http://www.woof.net.au/forum/showthread.php?14531-Game-Day-Round-8-2015-Melbourne-V-Western-Bulldogs

"I think that today we really have to make a statement. We need to be ruthless and really go for Melbourne's jugular. I calculate that, if we win, we'll go to 7th and if we win by ~110 points, we'll go to 6th - just behind the Pies.

In an even season like this, we need to put some teams away and really build up our percentage. I'm not tipping a 110 point win, but I think we should be setting ourselves 9+ goals."

Nothin like being over confident.

Bunch of nobs.

One other thing sucked in.

[Biffen 12,943]

Wrong in so many ways bingers!

Ring Derryn immediately!

Name and shame Bingers!!

[Bitter but optimistic 22,241]

Wrong in so many ways bingers!

Imagine how popular I'd be in that family!