THE ESSENDON 34: ON TRIAL

[jazza 1,323]

Online WADA contact form

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/contact-us

Sent my complaint and waiting for reply.

[deefrag 277]

answer . . . anyone? AFL: Essendon Bombers captain Jobe Watson admits using banned substance

Updated

25 Jun 2013, 8:04pm

Essendon captain Jobe Watson has made the stunning admission he took the banned substance AOD-9604, but the AFL's reigning Brownlow Medallist remains adamant he did nothing wrong. The star onballer said on Monday night he took the anti-obesity drug after signing a consent form.

"I signed that consent form and my understanding, after it being given through (club doctor) Bruce Reid and the club, that I was receiving AOD," he told Fox Sports program On The Couch.

[dees189227 12,296]

well port are happy. monfries and ryder are free to play as is crameri for the dogs.

Edited March 31, 2015 by dees189227

[biggestred 4,850]

Still gobsmacked

[Sir Why You Little 36,740]

So

"Get me the good stuff we are playing Carlton this week"

Hird Text to Dank...i saw the Text myself.

This means nothing hey.

So all clubs can just load up

Who shall explode first??

[beelzebub 23,249]

wasting your ink and paper or Internet time jazza.

It is over the cheats have won.

it aint over

[jazza 1,323]

So

"Get me the good stuff we are playing Carlton this week"

Hird Text to Dank...i saw the Text myself.

This means nothing hey.

So all clubs can just load up

Who shall explode first??

it aint over

So

"Get me the good stuff we are playing Carlton this week"

Hird Text to Dank...i saw the Text myself.

This means nothing hey.

So all clubs can just load up

Who shall explode first??

Time to get off our arsses and get WADA moving,sitting on here whinging wont help.

[Sir Why You Little 36,740]

Time to get off our arsses and get WADA moving,sitting on here whinging wont help.

WADA i think will be watching very closely already

[beelzebub 23,249]

Time to get off our arsses and get WADA moving,sitting on here whinging wont help.

have already sent emails

[Moonshadow 17,577]

I'm not sure the AFL had any other option. How could they have found the club/players guilty and risk the competition becoming a (bigger than it already is) laughing stock? No parent would want their kid playing Aussie Rules if the AFL had clubs with questionable priorities and drug cheating players? The AFL would never cripple a powerhouse club which has very powerful supporters within the league and wider society.

The AFL tribunal has always been about influence and perception, not about what is right. Let's hope ASADA and WADA show some strength and come down hard on them.

[titan_uranus 24,912]

I always felt that there was a very good case for the players, irrespective of my feelings of disgust towards Hird and the EFC, which remain as strong as ever.

Unless and until the reasons are released we won't know exactly how it was that ASADA couldn't make out the charges, and I presume a bit will turn on how the Tribunal perceived the burden of 'comfortable satisfaction', but the case was always going to be hard and I don't think ASADA has, across the last two years, done the best it could (not entirely its fault though).

It should always be remembered though that the charges were against the players, not Hird or the club. The finding is that the players, not Hird or the club, are not guilty. It does nothing to detract from Hird and the club's failings and culpability.

Edited March 31, 2015 by titan_uranus

[beelzebub 23,249]

I'm not sure the AFL had any other option. How could they have found the club/players guilty and risk the competition becoming a (bigger than it already is) laughing stock? No parent would want their kid playing Aussie Rules if the AFL had clubs with questionable priorities and drug cheating players? The AFL would never cripple a powerhouse club which has very powerful supporters within the league and wider society.

The AFL tribunal has always been about influence and perception, not about what is right. Let's hope ASADA and WADA show some strength and come down hard on them.

again..

to my idea its good cop bad cop

though I think in reality theirs is a cop on the take !!

[deefrag 277]

have already sent emails

if you have a knack for the persuasive email then perhaps the AOD story: Why admitted use of a clearly banned substance was not followed up by the local chapter . . . . ?

Something smells in Denmark and it aint Hans Christian Andersons clogs!!*

*probably because he lived in Copenhagen . . but no need to spoil a good analogy with the truth. Hey AFL I'm learnin!!

AFL: Essendon Bombers captain Jobe Watson admits using banned substance

Updated

25 Jun 2013, 8:04pm

[titan_uranus 24,912]

if you have a knack for the persuasive email then perhaps the AOD story: Why admitted use of a clearly banned substance was not followed up by the local chapter . . . . ?

Something smells in Denmark and it aint Hans Christian Andersons clogs!!*

*probably because he lived in Copenhagen . . but no need to spoil a good analogy with the truth. Hey AFL I'm learnin!!

The decision not to charge over AOD 9604 has been discussed previously - at the time of the alleged use of AOD 9604, ASADA couldn't be sure that it was a prohibited substance (because of inconsistencies with WADA's information). See here.

[beelzebub 23,249]

if you have a knack for the persuasive email then perhaps the AOD story: Why admitted use of a clearly banned substance was not followed up by the local chapter . . . . ?

Something smells in Denmark and it aint Hans Christian Andersons clogs!!*

*probably because he lived in Copenhagen . . but no need to spoil a good analogy with the truth. Hey AFL I'm learnin!!

I did enquire actually as to how they viewed acknowledged admissions with outcomes ?

Also wanted to know did they view the days events as a travesty...or a mockery ?

[FireOath 290]

Wasn't Trenners issued with AOD-9604?

[Uncle Fester 2,843]

What a stinking, corrupt and bloated carcuss we have running our game into the ground.

[John Crow Batty 8,826]

From the begining I expected something like this. ASADA had no friends except a few in the media. When every party that had an interest did very little to help their cause there was not much chance. That includes the AFL politicians State and Federal plus the bulk of the media. IF WADA and ASADA wish to continue they won't get much help or co-operation.

[KingDingAling 3,750]

What a stinking, corrupt and bloated carcuss we have running our game into the ground.

I think Gil is better than Vlad, but both appear to have beliefs and values centred around collectivism - which won't work in sport.

Gil is trying to put a ceiling on performance, this is his counterbalancing theory, his answer to solving equalisation.

While I think Gil is a very smart bloke, very logical, well educated, etc. His ideological framework is faulty. I dont think Gil is the right guy to oversee a competition.

[Lucifers Hero 39,049]

A good summary of the appeal status: ASADA can only go to AFL Tribunal to appeal but WADA can go straight to CAS. Also, new grounds for appeal (post Jan 1 2015) look interesting: "Now the appeal can be made because a party wants the matter heard by a different panel. It is known in law as an appeal de novo and means that the appeal is conducted as a completely new hearing of the evidence. It also means that the first hearing does not "limit the evidence or carry weight in the hearing before the appeal board..the scope of any review is not limited to what the previous tribunal had hear" (Michael Gleeson, The Age)

Some slim hope for sanity to prevail!

[What 18,810]

A good summary of the appeal status: ASADA can only go to AFL Tribunal to appeal but WADA can go straight to CAS. Also, new grounds for appeal (post Jan 1 2015) look interesting: "Now the appeal can be made because a party wants the matter heard by a different panel. It is known in law as an appeal de novo and means that the appeal is conducted as a completely new hearing of the evidence. It also means that the first hearing does not "limit the evidence or carry weight in the hearing before the appeal board..the scope of any review is not limited to what the previous tribunal had hear" (Michael Gleeson, The Age)

Some slim hope for sanity to prevail!

Well thant Id be shocked if there wasnt an appeal, and hopefully its by WADA

[deefrag 277]

The decision not to charge over AOD 9604 has been discussed previously - at the time of the alleged use of AOD 9604, ASADA couldn't be sure that it was a prohibited substance (because of inconsistencies with WADA's information). See here.

How can anybody even remotely familiar with the WADA code be happy with that explanation!

Why the hell is there the SO category??? Does a substance have to appear by name on the banned list? What was the status of AOD before April 2013 . . LEGAL??

Where is the confusion, what were the "WADA" inconsistancies? Where were the learned media in all this?

I'm begining to think this whole ASADA/WADA drug in sport thing is a total crock!!

[Moonshadow 17,577]

I believe WADA will come down hard and show the AFL to be the lightweight authority that it is.

[John Crow Batty 8,826]

A good summary of the appeal status: ASADA can only go to AFL Tribunal to appeal but WADA can go straight to CAS. Also, new grounds for appeal (post Jan 1 2015) look interesting: "Now the appeal can be made because a party wants the matter heard by a different panel. It is known in law as an appeal de novo and means that the appeal is conducted as a completely new hearing of the evidence. It also means that the first hearing does not "limit the evidence or carry weight in the hearing before the appeal board..the scope of any review is not limited to what the previous tribunal had hear" (Michael Gleeson, The Age)

Some slim hope for sanity to prevail!

ASADA will be wasting their time appealing. Better pass the ball to WADA.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,123]

Sent my complaint and waiting for reply.

You should have employed me to correct your grammar and spelling Jizza.