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Clark and our second rounder in exchange for their second rounder and Jordan Murdoch?

That pick 33 (or thereabouts) is probably a favourable price for Lamumba if we are still keen.

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Guessing none of you watched the 2011 grand final when he kicked the first goal of the game in the opening 10 seconds and 3 for the game.

Oh well that's a good enough reason to take him, did you watch the 2006 Grand Final when delisted Stevie Armstrong who was a rookie upgrade on the Meth Coast list kicked an opportunist goal from the forward pocket in the late stages. I think we would look at more than 1 GF performance

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Hasn't been anywhere near his 2010/2011 form in the follwing seasons.

Looks like he is running on 2 cylinders since. Obviously he has had injury woes which have probably held him back but i can't see any upside here. Just another Shannon Byrnes situation where we get very little value and a retirement following shortly after.

MFC has been trading this sort of damaged goods into the team for decades now with no upside.

Apparantly still hasn't learnt and is happy to be bitten over and over again if this trade goes through. Some here will say better than nothing but IMO i would rather offer the position on list to someone who offers us decent upside and years of service rather than a flashy premiership player on his way out.

If he can't perform any longer with one of the best teams/support systems going around in the AFL i doubt he will show any further improvement with one of the lower rung teams regardless of whether it was us, the Saints, Blues etc.

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I think Varcoe would be a horrible addition!

Silky outside midfielder at the best of times, soft injury-prone downhill skier at the worst of times.

Can utilise his strengths at Geelong with strong inside midfielders feeding the ball out to him. Will not have the same luxury at the dees and will be found out.

Struggles to find his own ball and compete in one-on-ones.

Not the sort of player we need right now.

Injuries aren't his problem, he had 1 and a bit years when he was injury prone the rest have been relatively injury free.

The problem with him is he can't find the ball, even at his best he averaged just 16 disposals and his last 2 years he's averaged just 12 and 14 disposals.

Unfortunately this will probably be the best deal we can get so Clark has screwed us again. Clark for Lumumba was definitely a better deal.

We move Grimes into the middle and Varcoe goes to half back and becomes the next Gary Rohan.

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Was good three or four years back. Maybe a case of we've seen his best.Roos likes his outside types to crack in. Not sure Varcoe is at that stage in his life where he wants to.

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Not to mention any players being brought from Geelong to our club would probably be traded against their will. Just get the picks.

Didn't Geelong want Blease? Give them Clark and Blease for their first pick.

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Not to mention any players being brought from Geelong to our club would probably be traded against their will. Just get the picks.

Didn't Geelong want Blease? Give them Clark and Blease for their first pick.

This is what I'd be pushing for...
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Geelong never seem to do badly out of trade time. They will get what they want and give up something they don't need, or someone who has flaws in their game. If be surprised if we got more than pick 33 or a single average player.


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This is what I'd be pushing for...

It's what I'd push for too if I wanted us to become Essendon or Collingwood, i.e. clubs other clubs won't deal with unless they absolutely must.

Don't be dicks about it, MFC. Come up with a fair and reasonable trade and get it done very early, please.

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I would take Jackson Thurlow in a straight trade. Huge upside and Cats may see him as expendable.

Likely be Clark for Taylor Hunt - ooooooooooh no.

Thurlow was drafted as the long term replacement for Corey Enright. I can't see him being put up for trade. That shouldn't stop Melbourne from inquiring about him, but chances of success would have to be slim.

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Geelong never seem to do badly out of trade time. They will get what they want and give up something they don't need, or someone who has flaws in their game. If be surprised if we got more than pick 33 or a single average player.

That is my fear.

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Varcoe has issues, is damaged goods, is injury prone (not in 2014) and is a shadow of the player he once was. He is 27 next season we MAY get 1 or 2 ok seasons out of him but we will never see him as the player he was in 2011. Varcoe is way unders for our best player, a KP Forward no less who from all reports has performed excellently in all physical testing at the MFC, Geelong and Collingwood. I am not saying Clark is without risk but he comes with massive upside. Varco may be considered with other players and picks but knowing what I know I would be disgusted if this is the trade. We need to trade Clark for a younger talent that we can at least get 5 years out of. He is actually worth a player who Geelong don't want to lose rather than a damaged has been who Geelong have been trying to off load for years.

I am sure Roos will not get sucked into Varcoe (unless only part of the deal). We can do much better there is some exciting young talent on the Geelong list.

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After listening to Mahoney this morning it looks like we have no interest in Varcoe

Interesting to listen to :) Liked how they always subtly pump up Clarks tyres etc. Clever work

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That is my fear.

I think Mahoney etc are wise to this

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After listening to Mahoney this morning it looks like we have no interest in Varcoe

Thank heavens!

I found the rumours puzzling, because we were in a position to know about his issues, yet seemed to be ignoring them.

Unfortunately for Varcoe, I think his career has stalled and is probably beyond recovery, set for a gradual decline.

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Varcoe has issues, is damaged goods, is injury prone (not in 2014) and is a shadow of the player he once was. He is 27 next season we MAY get 1 or 2 ok seasons out of him but we will never see him as the player he was in 2011. Varcoe is way unders for our best player, a KP Forward no less who from all reports has performed excellently in all physical testing at the MFC, Geelong and Collingwood. I am not saying Clark is without risk but he comes with massive upside. Varco may be considered with other players and picks but knowing what I know I would be disgusted if this is the trade. We need to trade Clark for a younger talent that we can at least get 5 years out of. He is actually worth a player who Geelong don't want to lose rather than a damaged has been who Geelong have been trying to off load for years.

I am sure Roos will not get sucked into Varcoe (unless only part of the deal). We can do much better there is some exciting young talent on the Geelong list.

Thanks GNF you found the words I was looking for, I don't know anything except that Geelong supporters would be over the moon to get Clark and lose Varcoe, who they definitely see as expendable and well past his prime.

I would hope that we would be asking for and expecting better.


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It's what I'd push for too if I wanted us to become Essendon or Collingwood, i.e. clubs other clubs won't deal with unless they absolutely must.

Don't be dicks about it, MFC. Come up with a fair and reasonable trade and get it done very early, please.

Why?

I'd rather let him walk for nothing then end up with an over the hill list clogger thanks.

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