Frawley Form Could Mean No First Round Draft Pick

[nutbean 8,838]

James Frawley is really starting to [censored] me off.

Why more than any other week ?

[ignition. 1,452]

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/james-frawleys-modest-season-could-mean-melbourne-might-miss-firstround-compensation-pick/story-fndv8pdq-1227031154227

Well just our luck. I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't receive pick 3 when he leaves..

Lance Franklin was in poor form this time last year and the Hawks still got a band 1 selection, it's just the journos trying to bend the system from the outside.

[nutbean 8,838]

Lance Franklin was in poor form this time last year and the Hawks still got a band 1 selection, it's just the journos trying to bend the system from the outside.

as said elsewhere - form is irrelevant its all about the $$$ and length of contract

[beelzebub 23,169]

For all we know he may well have been asked to "look after himself"...wink wink !!

[rpfc 28,037]

as said elsewhere - form is irrelevant its all about the $$$ and length of contract

The only relevance it would have is the effect it would have on his $$$ and length of contract.

I don't think his form is so bad as to crater the market for him - he is what he is and, if anything, has shown some flexibility this year. He has been inconsistent but, again, doubt it will crater the market for him.

[Tatu 416]

IMO the deal has been done and he is merely going through the motions and trying to not get injured.

yep totally agree... Deal was more than likely done late last year...

[nutbean 8,838]

The only relevance it would have is the effect it would have on his $$$ and length of contract.

I don't think his form is so bad as to crater the market for him - he is what he is and, if anything, has shown some flexibility this year. He has been inconsistent but, again, doubt it will crater the market for him.

And i think his suitors will acknowledge that he is trying to do backstroke in a cesspool that is our list.

Edited August 21, 2014 by nutbean

[old dee 23,459]

And i think his suitors will acknowledge that he is trying to do backstroke in a cesspool that is our list.

Very good nutbean can I borrow that line please?

[nutbean 8,838]

Very good nutbean can I borrow that line please?

feel free

( pay me the royalties)

[jumbo returns 6,703]

Why more than any other week ?

Dunno....just this week....

[jumbo returns 6,703]

I suppose that I've realised that he doesn't want to hang around.

That's what upsets me the most....just doesn't give a rats.

[Deecisive 1,709]

anyone looking to offer Frawley a contract knows he can play when he puts his mind to it, and they may make obvious concessions over this years form give how poorly the team has played and the possible lack of interest shown by Frawley. Top clubs would also expect to get more out of Frawley and anyone else they take on so it is really going to come down to a bidding war as to who wants him and for how much. I doubt he has already signed a contract as that would mean he has not actually surveyed the market fully to see what others will offer. I expect who ever wants him is prepared to pay 600-700k per year for 3 years for him.

[Earl Hood 6,057]

Has anyone deciphered Caro's article in the Age where she states "worse for Melbourne is the fact that Frawley's past and future contracts could be structured in a manner that would earn the club relatively poor compensation". Frawley's past contract was front ended so that made him an unrestricted FA, again an AFL rule change to our disadvantage that came after we had signed off on his contract. But is Caro saying another club could structure his future contract to ensure our compo is minimised? Anyone know how that could be achieved? Of course in the dog eat dog AFL world if you could kick a club when they are down you would!!

Edited August 21, 2014 by Earl Hood

[beelzebub 23,169]

its not just the 1st year its the total length and value....last I heard

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,300]

Johnny Ralph wasn't questioning Frawley's form and potentially lucrative contract after a 15 mark BOG performance vs Carlton this year.

[daisycutter 29,259]

Johnny Ralph wasn't questioning Frawley's form and potentially lucrative contract after a 15 mark BOG performance vs Carlton this year.

john ralph....pfffft.....which direction is the wind blowing today

no pulitzer prizes on his horizon

[Ted Lasso 18,720]

Has anyone deciphered Caro's article in the Age where she states "worse for Melbourne is the fact that Frawley's past and future contracts could be structured in a manner that would earn the club relatively poor compensation". Frawley's past contract was front ended so that made him an unrestricted FA, again an AFL rule change to our disadvantage that came after we had signed off on his contract. But is Caro saying another club could structure his future contract to ensure our compo is minimised? Anyone know how that could be achieved? Of course in the dog eat dog AFL world if you could kick a club when they are down you would!!

Caro clearly doesn't understand free agency, the compensation is based on the total length and value of the new contract, Chips standing within the team, and his age, and the AFL reviews all decisions and if this formula results in a compensation pick that they don't believe is correct they can recommend a different outcome, if the contract is front loaded or whatever makes absolutely no difference and Chip will look for the best deal out there, he won't take Geelongs 500k if Hawthorn and freo are offering 600k,

[Little Goffy 13,937]

Honestly, I've been assuming for a while that both the possible priority pick and the Frawley compensation pick would be end of first round.

Could be looking at something like 19 (compo), 20 (pp) and 22 (normal) in a little bundle. Useful, but puts pressure on to use them wisely.

Oh no... oh nooooo....

2008 draft flashback!

If anyone needs me I'll be curled up in a ball in the corner repeating the names of that year's second-round draftees immediately after the Blease-Strauss double.

Shuey, Ballantyne, Zaharakis, Suban, Redden, Beams, Hannebery, Shiels...

Why Barry, why?

Somebody call the MFCSS ambulance.

[Machsy 2,858]

I'm hearing that although a firm decision has not been made (posturing) Geelong are very confident that Frawley is strongly leaning towards them.

Wanting to play in finals with a mate down there is the pull.

May not bode well for the size of the contract...

[Chook 14,988]

I'm hearing that although a firm decision has not been made (posturing) Geelong are very confident that Frawley is strongly leaning towards them.

Wanting to play in finals with a mate down there is the pull.

May not bode well for the size of the contract...

Frawley's country boy loyalty might actually work against us then. Leaving for less money than he's worth to play alongside someone else who ALSO left us for less than he's worth.

Free agency, folks.

[whatwhat say what 22,038]

Yes, it's just awesome isn't it?

And at the end of next year Garland can leave too as a UFA - and then that'll be our three supposed backline pillars from 2008-2012 all gone!

[beelzebub 23,169]

Id look at a Garland trade now if a decent offer surfaced. In the FA age you are going to have to be quick off the mark and stay ahead of the game.

A lot of folk arent going to be too happy with the notion players are just interchangable components of a team..... Hang on...I think they always were

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,300]

N Jones also becomes a free agent next year?

Should we look at trading him.

(Being quarterly serious)

[drdrake 3,114]

If we go through the Col Sylvia posts from last year I mentioned this and I believe the same will happen again. The AFL will not give us a priority pick, but we will get a first rounder for James Frawley, it is my theory, same as Sylvia, on Col Sylvia's form and history he wasn't worth what we got for him, he should have been third round pick. Frawley on what he has put up for the past 3 years is worth a second round pick tops, we push for the priority pick more to ensure that we get the first round pick for Frawley. To have Pick 2,3 in this years draft is important for our club.

[beelzebub 23,169]

N Jones also becomes a free agent next year?

Should we look at trading him.

(Being quarterly serious)

3/4 probably not lol

Its not a case of..ah FA coming up for a player so we MUST seek a trade , just there are some who might be well suited to one.

it will become more common, Im sure