Changes v Eagles - Jack W out?

[Whispering_Jack 27,999]

Who is in the mix for Melbourne? Cam Pedersen looks likely to return as a forward option. Jordie McKenzie could add some toughness around the ball and had 29 disposals in the VFL, and Jay Kennedy-Harris's pace would be handy at Subiaco. Jimmy Toumpas played just one VFL game so expect him to be given time. Michael Evans and Luke Tapscott are some chance to play after winning more than 20 disposals each in the VFL. Evans also laid eight tackles. Rohan Bail did not play VFL but, if fit, will be in line for selection. - Peter Ryan

[jimbo1982 82]

For a lot of posters who seem to not care anymore, we are on to about topic nr 15 since Sunday, all banging on about the same thing.

Reason I don't post a lot after a game like Sunday, what is the point, I was there, I saw it, it was horrible, I have no idea what is/went wrong.

I went to training a couple of days before and everybody looked switched on and ready to go, I speak to them and ask them about the supposed 'scarring' they all deny it.

I feel like going this week and just giving them the death stare.

I could pontificate ad infinitum, but all that does it just not let go of it....

Does Roos know what is wrong and how to fix it, hopefully.

Move on to next week, at least if I go to one of the Sports Bars to watch it, I can get reasonably priced food and drink........

Here here

[Deecisive 1,652]

It makes no sense to tell the players to go out there and play a totally different style of game than the one Roos has being trying to fuse into their brains, it will only confuse them even more on what they should or should not do as they would not have practiced this way.

They need to go out and play the way the have been trained, but doing so with far better skill and heart than they have shown. Players should not be rotated off the field into interchange unless they are stuff from running and chasing hard. Blease, mckenzie and Tapscott have had their chances and failed, sorry no point them coming in playing one half way good game and getting another contract and clogging the list. Strauss well if he has not made it yet then he is not likely to. I would bring in Fitzy and Pederson for Grimes and Barry, and possibly Jimmy Toumpas and JHK for Matt Jones and Kent, we need to get more games into our younger players and they need to stand up and start playing better football. As a small reminder to Jack Watts that he is not an automatic pick I would put him on the interchange bench, on the end near the door/exit.

[Coup Cooper 610]

I have a really really really really good/weird feeling that we're going to bounce back this week. Am I alone? I'm expecting only a 30 point loss

Your on your own there mate.. 70+ points

[Coq au vin 754]

Let's bring in Maia Westrupp and lose by 5 million points!!! This team is gone. Delistings +*++++++++++********

[picket fence 15,226]

OK, before I start this thread and open it up to the Loserville comments like "Who cares" and "In: Flower, Lyon and Schwarz" or "Out: Everyone", I thought I'd make a few actual comments about the selection.

The first is that PR has a difficult decision to make about Jack Watts this week and next week. He's spent all year defending him in the media and he's tried him up on the wing so that he can get some easy touches and hope the pressure goes off him, but even PR must have been watching his lack of intensity and willingness to chase that proved so costly against a bunch of boys on Sunday.

So can he now forsake him at this late stage in the season? My guess is that PR will again remain faithful and there will only be a few changes.

The same principles apply a bit to a number of players who were quiet on Sunday - eg: Frawley, Dawes, Garland. PR has shown great loyalty to his senior group - how can he wield the axe now and if he does, is it a great message going into the off-season? Some might argue that it is the perfect message - it would give them a reminder that their spots are on the line so that they work harder in the summer.

Grimes is obviously injured and is one out.

Bail is a must for Perth because he runs all day and Pedersen showed great character in magoos and also must come back in - could he be a surprise tagging match-up for Nic Nat?

The two easy outs for Roosy (no damage to his senior harmony) are Dom Barry (glad he's got a few games now though) and Matt Jones (he was meant to step up after being axed and he has gone more back into his shell). Riley could be on shakey ground this week as well.

I would love to see Salem play down back - I've been banging on about how we are the only club without a left footer in our back half for a few weeks now and he has courage (just ask Davis) and tackles like a backman should. It would be nice to see him getting a few cheap kicks down there and with Grimes out, there's a spot for him. I'd also like to see Garland up forward again because he is not providing anything down back except spoils.

So for me it's:

Out: Grimes (inj), Barry, M.Jones and maybe Riley.

In: Pedersen, Bail, JKH and maybe Tapscott/McKenzie.

Team

B: Jetta (Cripps or Le Cras if he plays) Frawley (Kennedy) Dunn (McGovern)

HB: Howe McDonald (Darling) Salem

C: Bail Tyson Cross

HF: Garland Dawes Viney

F: JKH (only decent crumber we have) Gawn Kent

Ru: Jamar Vince N.Jones

Int: Pedersen, Michie, Riley

Sub: Watts (I've been banging on about this also for weeks. It's the one way Roosy can drop him without a media stir being created and he may come on for a quarter and play with actual intensity.)

FMD Riley out????? One of the few who at least goes hard at the ball and gets it!

Mc Kenzie is and never will be AFL Standard!

M Jones also NUTI!

Pedo Yes!

and play Watts at FF

[Droughts 6]

Stress? What stress? I only find football stressful when a game is close.

Apparently Pedersen was best for Casey so I suspect he will come in along with Bail and Terlich (who I wouldn't play if I was selecting the side). I predict the outs will be Grimes (inj), Matt Jones and Riley. Barry doesn't really keep his spot on merit - rather he stays for the sake of personal development.

Frawley and Dunn should play in defence. And Watts should play on the wing. I'd also like to see Salem have a run on the ball. Otherwise he might freeze if he remains in the forward pocket all day. And any kicks he get have a better chance of finding a target than any of Matt Jones or Riley.

well yes seeing dumb footballers time after time can get you down plus as I still play and train i really hate having to front up to my football club in WA and get sympathy

Whilst the wrong side of 55 i kinda know after hundreds of games of footy what makes a footballer and we don't have many

I would get rid of watts any way the club can I honestly believe that his carefree attitude and great skill level without trying would burn a hole in the less gifted but harder working players and this may be the reason they don't kick to the pretty boy

[titan_uranus 22,428]

Play Strauss. Seriously. He can kick, which places him above 80% of those who took the field yesterday.

If defensive accountability is the issue, he will be in good company.

100%DE last week wasn't it?

Play him. Roll the dice. Nothing to lose.

I say give Strauss and Blease one last chance to show what they can do before they get the axe. Both should do well offensively on the wide open spaces out West. We already know they don't defend well, but given how badly the rest of the side did this week what would it hurt? At least we know that they can both hit a target with a decent penetrating pass.

What is the point now?

If they play well, or even just OK, what do we do? Sign them up for another year, and watch them do nothing for 20 rounds again?

[Deecisive 1,652]

I would keep frawley in the forward line if he does well then he keeps his value, if he plays poorly then it can be said that he is being played out of position. Play him in the backline and you may reduce his currency for free agency.

[Demons 32 235]

I don't want to see Matt Jones, Rohan Bail or Dan Nicholson in the side at all.

I would hope -

Out: Grimes, Jones, Barry, Riley

In: Pederson, Mckenzie, Tapscott, Strauss (may as well)

[P-man 13,220]

What is the point now?

If they play well, or even just OK, what do we do? Sign them up for another year, and watch them do nothing for 20 rounds again?

IF Strauss played well, and that's a big if, but it's possible, then we'd cross that bridge.

We can't delist half the squad. Some players will need to be kept for at least another year. I wouldn't mind seeing him have a couple of games to state his case, the same as Blease and Tapscott were given. How much more did Blease and Tapscott do really? The fact remains that in a team pleading for players with excellent kicking skills, we have one in waiting.

He's just turned 24. He hits his theoretical peak in 2 years. Watch Demonland go into meltdown if Strauss goes to another club and in a year or two becomes a cemented 22 player, while Roos never gave him a chance.

We're gonna get hammered anyway. Give him A chance. Even Evans and Nicholson have been granted that much.

[junk 342]

we must punish players who don't seem to………… whatever. minimum 6 changes. WATTS,DOUOAS,GRIMES de-list at the end of the year.

[Return to Glory 7,729]

we must punish players who don't seem to………… whatever. minimum 6 changes. WATTS,DOUOAS,GRIMES de-list at the end of the year.

Enyaw, I hope it's not cyberstalking but I always feel compelled to read your posts. One word- insightful

[Ethan Tremblay 28,423]

we must punish players who don't seem to………… whatever. minimum 6 changes. WATTS,DOUOAS,GRIMES de-list at the end of the year.

I'd give Douoas another year to prove himself.

[Return to Glory 7,729]

I'd give Douoas another year to prove himself.

Well, he is coming off the wookie list.

[Bitter but optimistic 21,279]

we must punish players who don't seem to………… whatever. minimum 6 changes. WATTS,DOUOAS,GRIMES de-list at the end of the year.

Thanks for your sanity ENYAW. It grounds me and makes me realize how easy it is to become detached from reality. I look forward to the pearls of wisdom you scatter before us. Keep it up.

[daisycutter 28,569]

Stress? What stress? I only find football stressful when a game is close.

Apparently Pedersen was best for Casey so I suspect he will come in along with Bail and Terlich (who I wouldn't play if I was selecting the side). I predict the outs will be Grimes (inj), Matt Jones and Riley. Barry doesn't really keep his spot on merit - rather he stays for the sake of personal development.

Frawley and Dunn should play in defence. And Watts should play on the wing. I'd also like to see Salem have a run on the ball. Otherwise he might freeze if he remains in the forward pocket all day. And any kicks he get have a better chance of finding a target than any of Matt Jones or Riley.

strangely (for me) i see something in barry (at least a glimmer)

he's a skinny under-developed kid who's only been around 2 years

worth persevering with for a while

[Demon_spurs 1,670]

Your on your own there mate.. 70+ points

Since when is a 30+ point loss a bounce back???

[MO FINE 146]

Frawley?

[Dwight Schrute 16,800]

we must punish players who don't seem to………… whatever. minimum 6 changes. WATTS,DOUOAS,GRIMES de-list at the end of the year.

He's back!

[Moonshadow 16,231]

we must punish players who don't seem to………… whatever. minimum 6 changes. WATTS,DOUOAS,GRIMES de-list at the end of the year.

Ereh, ereh Enyaw. I eerga.

[daisycutter 28,569]

Ereh, ereh Enyaw. I eerga.

congrats moonie, your first comprehensible post for a long time

i knew class would win-out if you just dragged yourself out of bbo's post-code size shadow

[Moneider96 1,045]

Is it me or has this week felt soo much longer. I just want to see if that performance on Sunday was a one time thing like Freo vs St kilda, or if we really are that [censored].

[old dee 22,921]

Is it me or has this week felt soo much longer. I just want to see if that performance on Sunday was a one time thing like Freo vs St kilda, or if we really are that [censored].

I have news for you mon and it ain't good.

[Ouch! 2,034]

Not sure if it has been mentioned here,

I really liked that Mark Thompson came out and berated Joe Daniher about putting his hand up to play when he wasn't really fit to play after his collarbone injury, and called him selfish and not putting the team first.

I look at Grimes on the weekend, and the situation is no different, the one person that truly knew if he was fit to play was Grimes himself. The fact that he re-injured the same hamstring in basically the same place suggests he wasn't 100% right to me, and I would argue that Grimes isn't showing leadership by coming back from a hamstring earlier than he should. That action is selfish and 2 weeks for a hamstring injury (given Grimes history with back and hamstrings) is not what I would call a good example for the club, team or younger players.

I might be wrong, but it's not like we were playing for finals.