Tom Boyd- Unhappy at GWS?

[Grandson of a gun 276]

Was speaking with someone who worked at the recent National U18 champs.
It was raised by someone close to them that Tom Boyd is not happy at GWS at the moment. He is not getting a game and isn't overly enamoured with being in Sydney. He is currently 3rd behind Cameron and Patton and the feeling is he wants more opportunity.
It was suggested that should a Vic club be able to convince him to come back home and play for that club, that he could seek a trade from GWS.
The trade would obviously be costly- very high pick and possibly a player but if Boyd wants out then it is possible.
Before anyone shoots the messenger that is all I know and thought it a worthy topic.
I won't betray my source but they are heavily involved at that top level and their information was from a reliable source close to Boyd himself.

I can only hope that if true Melbourne are into him big time...

[Brayshaw Self 847]

Highly dount that. Source or just blatant BS. Me thinks the latter.

Ridiculous thread.

Post the quote and i will believe you. Otherwise, the BS meter stays at high!

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Was speaking with someone who worked at the recent National U18 champs.

It was raised by someone close to them that Tom Boyd is not happy at GWS at the moment. He is not getting a game and isn't overly enamoured with being in Sydney. He is currently 3rd behind Cameron and Patton and the feeling is he wants more opportunity.

It was suggested that should a Vic club be able to convince him to come back home and play for that club, that he could seek a trade from GWS.

The trade would obviously be costly- very high pick and possibly a player but if Boyd wants out then it is possible.

Before anyone shoots the messenger that is all I know and thought it a worthy topic.

I won't betray my source but they are heavily involved at that top level and their information was from a reliable source close to Boyd himself.

I can only hope that if true Melbourne are into him big time...

So the first pick in the draft wants more opportunities, even though he hasn't been at the club for more than a season?

Your tomato sauce expired in 1977 pal.

[picket fence 17,126]

Dear Grandson of a gun! Let me tell you friend, folks around here do not like unsubstantiations!! Even if they turn out accurate!

ok I'll buy in and given that some of my sources are very ah influential I'll take your info on board! I hope you are correct!

Keep up the good work!

Edited July 8, 2014 by picket fence

[1964nowMORE 488]

Not sure the benefit in poking at each other....

Like all clubs there will be players who want out, more game time etc. at lower clubs likely even more with success often bringing much happier depth. At clubs with no history and in a shite area then this could be even higher. So expect GWS have quite a few.

Boyd, he'd be amazing as a dee of course. Unlikely though.

I'd take shiel and move on!

[Coq au vin 755]

There's someone else I hope is very unhappy at Greatest Waste of Space. His initials are TS.

[Watts Jurrah Dunn? 735]

Thanks for sharing this mate but we need mids, mids, mids, skilled half backs and more mids.

No point building a dream forward line if we get smashed out of the middle week after week and it never gets into our forward 50.

Very little interest in Boyd. Perfect fit for the saints pick 1 in my opinion given McCartin and co are so underwhelming.

[beelzebub 23,320]

would anyone seriously not have Boyd ??

[Mac7 309]

There's someone else I hope is very unhappy at Greatest Waste of Space. His initials are TS.

Theres a chance LeBron is heading back to the Cavs so maybe we'll have our own version

[Grandson of a gun 276]

So the first pick in the draft wants more opportunities, even though he hasn't been at the club for more than a season?

Your tomato sauce expired in 1977 pal.

As I said, I am passing on the information I was told. I have no reason to doubt who told me. My take was it is the living in Sydney thing first and lack of opportunities to date second.

Whether it is correct I don't know but thought it interesting and if true could make for an interesting trade week.

Wiseblood take it as you like.

I can only hope if true and he is open to a return home then we are into him. We will have negotiating chips.

[SaberFang 7,151]

Does seem unusual to have so many ongoing rumours about almost every player being miserable in GWS and wanting to get out. The onfield performances wouldn't be helping, and they're probably getting paid peanuts compared to what Victorian clubs would offer.

[beelzebub 23,320]

Given the beast that GWS is.. i.e a creation macabre it doesnt surprise me they struggle to capture the hearts of some ( players )

Some will be there under sufferance and happily run

[Coq au vin 755]

I would suspect almost all of them would rather be playing for a real club.

[darkhorse72 1,916]

GWS will have more grumbles as they have so many high draft picks before considering all the other issues of young players moving up there. These kids were top of their class etc coming in and not getting good game time. The exodus will be constant as the team matures and other clubs should benefit.

[Uncle Fester 2,848]

I would have suspected that if we had #1 last year it would have gone straight onto the table. I don't see how we'd now pay top picks/players for a kid that only has 'potential' next to his name.

I really can't see us chasing him over older and established mids

[TheoX 1,222]

GWS will have more grumbles as they have so many high draft picks before considering all the other issues of young players moving up there. These kids were top of their class etc coming in and not getting good game time. The exodus will be constant as the team matures and other clubs should benefit.

Oh well at least they'll still have their franchise superstar safely locked into a 6 million 6 year contract.

[Gipsy Danger 1,067]

Thanks for sharing this mate but we need mids, mids, mids, skilled half backs and more mids.

No point building a dream forward line if we get smashed out of the middle week after week and it never gets into our forward 50.

Very little interest in Boyd. Perfect fit for the saints pick 1 in my opinion given McCartin and co are so underwhelming.

Because we kick so many goals at the moment...

[Allen Jakovich 516]

Because we kick so many goals at the moment...

We might be a chance to if we didn't get smashed in the midfield every week.

Edited July 8, 2014 by Allen Jakovich

[MadAsHell 4,212]

I'd be thrilled with Boyd, fills that need of the third tall forward who can chop out in the ruck currently being filled by Pedersen that was to be Clark's role.

Obviously the cost would be high, but if getting Dangerfield isn't any chance I'd be more then happy to go for Boyd.

[SaberFang 7,151]

GWS will have more grumbles as they have so many high draft picks before considering all the other issues of young players moving up there. These kids were top of their class etc coming in and not getting good game time. The exodus will be constant as the team matures and other clubs should benefit.

Hadn't really occurred to me, but this is a very good point. As if the draft sanctions weren't ridiculous enough in the first place, the fact that they are continually securing multiple top 5 picks every single draft (wouldn't surprise me if they ended up with our 3 & 4 this year as well in exchange for Shiel & Treloar) is overfilling their list with far more talent than they can play. It might mean they can eventually form an amazing best starting 22, but they'll be letting top draftees go to other clubs like a leaking siev. Especially when in 3 years these mature young players start demanding high pay packets and they simply can't afford 22 of them.

The only way I'd stay at GWS would be for money, and I've got a feeling most of their players feel the same about their longterm career prospects in the western badlands. To spend your whole life growing up thinking about being a top draft pick and playing footy, only to face the grim reality of playing 5 times a year on rotation, in front of 2000 person crowds, with a 75+ point loss every week, all the while watching picks taken at 20 and beyond get games every week back home in front of 50,000 crowds. Would be more than a little depressing.

[Whispering_Jack 29,925]

Was speaking with someone who worked at the recent National U18 champs.

It was raised by someone close to them that Tom Boyd is not happy at GWS at the moment. He is not getting a game and isn't overly enamoured with being in Sydney. He is currently 3rd behind Cameron and Patton and the feeling is he wants more opportunity.

It was suggested that should a Vic club be able to convince him to come back home and play for that club, that he could seek a trade from GWS.

The trade would obviously be costly- very high pick and possibly a player but if Boyd wants out then it is possible.

Before anyone shoots the messenger that is all I know and thought it a worthy topic.

I won't betray my source but they are heavily involved at that top level and their information was from a reliable source close to Boyd himself.

I can only hope that if true Melbourne are into him big time...

Congratulations on doing the honourable thing and refusing to betray a confidence. Too few people understand what that means these days.

I think GWS made a mistake using their first pick on Boyd when they already had Cameron and Patton but he needs to be there for at least the two years of his contract. From our perspective, we would obviously have the draft pick available to accommodate GWS if Frawley did a runner but Paul Roos has already made it clear he's after midfielders.

[Moonshadow 17,675]

...The only way I'd stay at GWS would be for money, and I've got a feeling most of their players feel the same about their longterm career prospects in the western badlands. To spend your whole life growing up thinking about being a top draft pick and playing footy, only to face the grim reality of playing 5 times a year on rotation, in front of 2000 person crowds, with a 75+ point loss every week, all the while watching picks taken at 20 and beyond get games every week back home in front of 50,000 crowds. Would be more than a little depressing.

Umm... some of our high draft picks are not making the firsts on a regular basis, or not performing happily in the seniors, have been getting thumped by 100+ pts regularly over the last few years and have either held out for more cash, moved elsewhere as FAs or waited to see the club's 'direction'. Lets not throw too many stones lamashtu.

[SaberFang 7,151]

Umm... some of our high draft picks are not making the firsts on a regular basis, or not performing happily in the seniors, have been getting thumped by 100+ pts regularly over the last few years and have either held out for more cash, moved elsewhere as FAs or waited to see the club's 'direction'. Lets not throw too many stones lamashtu.

Entirely true, but don't undervalue how depressing it would be to move to the worst half of another city and play every week with nobody watching on that gives a rats. They might as well have stayed at state level, the crowds are bigger.

[Grandson of a gun 276]

Congratulations on doing the honourable thing and refusing to betray a confidence. Too few people understand what that means these days.

I think GWS made a mistake using their first pick on Boyd when they already had Cameron and Patton but he needs to be there for at least the two years of his contract. From our perspective, we would obviously have the draft pick available to accommodate GWS if Frawley did a runner but Paul Roos has already made it clear he's after midfielders.

Thanks WJ. I agree we are desperate for mids. I would hope that our drafting and trading strategy is aimed at that, however, if and it's a big if, Boyd does want out- we would be mad if we didn't consider and make a serious play for him.

Hogan and Boyd, both 19 year old beasts does fulfil a desperate requirement for us.

With those two, like the hawks when they got buddy and roughy, are what you build a team around.

Mids mids mids, except if we can land Boyd...

[RalphiusMaximus 6,046]

This has been mentioned from a few sources about the place. I don't know how likely it is that he'll walk, but I think everyone knew they'd gone one too many high picks on key forwards. I have heard a whisper that the Bulldogs are very much into him. I wouldn't be surprised if the Saints were also putting out feelers in his direction.

As for us, I think we have other needs that trump spending our first pick on another young tall forward. The loss of Clark has left a bit of a hole, but Dawes has years left in him and Hogan is coming along. We can pick up another developing tall in this draft and work on them for a few years like the good clubs do before needing to put them in the firsts.