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Killing the ball with his fist is one of the top things a ruckman should do in a game.

He will most likely remember to do it next time...

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I really like Nathan Buckley and he may have let the lid off the pot today, but in general, I find his views very refreshing.

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I really like Nathan Buckley and he may have let the lid off the pot today, but in general, I find his views very refreshing.

I can't say I like him much, but I do find I agree with him most of the time. He's pretty much the Stannis Baratheon of the AFL in that respect.

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care factor.....0

Collingwood lost...care factor 10 :)

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The who?

A man whose personality makes you hate him despite his generally sound decisions. What year does your familiarity with popular culture references end?

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A man whose personality makes you hate him despite his generally sound decisions. What year does your familiarity with popular culture references end?

Thought he was Nana Mouskouris bass player.

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What? Can't a coach give a player a spray anymore?

Getting a too precious if anyone has a problem with that

Oh, he's welcome to do it.

It's just that these days, people understand that it's a stupid, selfish, emotional indulgence that achieves nothing.

So I guess what I'm saying is, he's welcome to do it, at Collingwood.

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Incident with Wittsy says more about his coach than the player. Still room for challenges to be laid in this game but too overt today.

Gracious step back.

Dammit, I still have to respect him.

Why oh why wont at least one club give me a completely unambiguous run at legitimately hating them.

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Gracious step back.

Dammit, I still have to respect him.

Why oh why wont at least one club give me a completely unambiguous run at legitimately hating them.

Surely not too difficult a task Goffy. Do you have to look further than our opponents of last week?

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you guys are kidding arent you??!! i waited 2 minutes for that video to load? Dead set soft C%$Ks if you think that was even an issue to bother writing about. go and switch on the soccer

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Hmmmm where was all this when Roosy verbally destroyed Terlich earlier this season?

Put your Collingwood bias aside FFS.

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Well if my boss carried on like that to me in front of others I'd be putting forward a complaint of bullying. It was very unprofessional and a fast way to get a lot of his players offside.

One of the basic fundamental rules of managing people is that you give criticism behind closed doors.

Only one way from here for collongwood while Buckley is in charge and it's decently not up!

He looked like a Bull Terrier, I thought he was going to bite him.

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Hmmmm where was all this when Roosy verbally destroyed Terlich earlier this season?

Put your Collingwood bias aside FFS.

Well, I for one was really disappointed by Roos losing his cool and giving such a pointless spray. Remembering this was early enough in the season that the 'magic' hadn't really started to show, we were 0-3 including two disappointing losses that we went in hoping to win.

When I posted about the Buckley brain-fade I was wondering if I should mention the Roos-Terlich one. And clearly the spray didn't do anything to convince Terlich to change his ways. Here he is in the VFL, doing exactly what he got sprayed for it seems;

Dean Terlich: Dean played half-back and half-forward. He had 16 possessions. I thought he was another who was pretty consistent over four quarters for the team. He positioned himself well and communicated well with his teammates in the defensive area. He just made a couple of disappointing decision-making errors, with ball in hand. He tried to be a little bit too cute, when the conditions were certainly not conducive to tricky ball use – he just needed to play the percentages.

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Well, I for one was really disappointed by Roos losing his cool and giving such a pointless spray. Remembering this was early enough in the season that the 'magic' hadn't really started to show, we were 0-3 including two disappointing losses that we went in hoping to win.

When I posted about the Buckley brain-fade I was wondering if I should mention the Roos-Terlich one. And clearly the spray didn't do anything to convince Terlich to change his ways. Here he is in the VFL, doing exactly what he got sprayed for it seems;

Dean Terlich: Dean played half-back and half-forward. He had 16 possessions. I thought he was another who was pretty consistent over four quarters for the team. He positioned himself well and communicated well with his teammates in the defensive area. He just made a couple of disappointing decision-making errors, with ball in hand. He tried to be a little bit too cute, when the conditions were certainly not conducive to tricky ball use – he just needed to play the percentages.

Why were you disappointed? Early in the year or not, if a player deserves a spray, he should get a f'k'n spray. If you can't cop a spray then you just have to harden the f up.

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Well, I for one was really disappointed by Roos losing his cool and giving such a pointless spray. Remembering this was early enough in the season that the 'magic' hadn't really started to show, we were 0-3 including two disappointing losses that we went in hoping to win.

When I posted about the Buckley brain-fade I was wondering if I should mention the Roos-Terlich one. And clearly the spray didn't do anything to convince Terlich to change his ways. Here he is in the VFL, doing exactly what he got sprayed for it seems;

Dean Terlich: Dean played half-back and half-forward. He had 16 possessions. I thought he was another who was pretty consistent over four quarters for the team. He positioned himself well and communicated well with his teammates in the defensive area. He just made a couple of disappointing decision-making errors, with ball in hand. He tried to be a little bit too cute, when the conditions were certainly not conducive to tricky ball use he just needed to play the percentages.

Dean Terlich absolutely deserved that spray. That was by far the worst game I have seen him played. Didnt stick to team rules and was making poor dumb decisions.

Glad Roosy gave him a rocket.

Some players or people need to seriously harden up. If your not sticking to the basic fundamental team rules and not sticking to your role you deserve a kick up the ass. I have copped sprays in my playing career. For me its to cop it on the chin and try and win back the respect of my teamates go that one extra harder at the contest.

Im only 24 and not part of the older generation. But I am all for players copping spray when they need it. Players these days are way too sensitive. I have always liked the way Bucks goes about it. Infact id rather him coaching my team then Mick Malthouse. Collingwood will be a powerhouse in coming years. But for him to come out and say what he did on twitter was fantastic and a credit to him.

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Dean Terlich absolutely deserved that spray. That was by far the worst game I have seen him played. Didnt stick to team rules and was making poor dumb decisions.

Glad Roosy gave him a rocket.

Some players or people need to seriously harden up. If your not sticking to the basic fundamental team rules and not sticking to your role you deserve a kick up the ass. I have copped sprays in my playing career. For me its to cop it on the chin and try and win back the respect of my teamates go that one extra harder at the contest.

Im only 24 and not part of the older generation. But I am all for players copping spray when they need it. Players these days are way too sensitive. I have always liked the way Bucks goes about it. Infact id rather him coaching my team then Mick Malthouse. Collingwood will be a powerhouse in coming years. But for him to come out and say what he did on twitter was fantastic and a credit to him.

For me it's not about hurt feelings or anything like that. Having a coach blow up at me would be distracting, and I'd be thinking about it for the rest of the game. It would not be good for my performance at all. Maybe I'm soft that way, but that's just how it is. If Witts isn't like me, then maybe the spray was a good thing for him. Otherwise it was a bad move on Buckley's part.

For example, do you reckon Jack Watts would respond to a physical kick in the bum like that? Hell no. He'd play like shite and might even want out of the club. Jake King probably would love it though. There are some people you need to talk to, and some people you need to bake.

It's not about "deserving" a spray. It's about responding to a spray. The purpose of a spray (or anything a coach does) should be to get his players to play the way he wants them to play. Spraying someone because you're [censored] off does nothing, and makes you look like a dill.

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For me it's not about hurt feelings or anything like that. Having a coach blow up at me would be distracting, and I'd be thinking about it for the rest of the game. It would not be good for my performance at all. Maybe I'm soft that way, but that's just how it is. If Witts isn't like me, then maybe the spray was a good thing for him. Otherwise it was a bad move on Buckley's part.

For example, do you reckon Jack Watts would respond to a physical kick in the bum like that? Hell no. He'd play like shite and might even want out of the club. Jake King probably would love it though. There are some people you need to talk to, and some people you need to bake.

It's not about "deserving" a spray. It's about responding to a spray. The purpose of a spray (or anything done a coach does) should be to get his players to play the way he wants them to play. Spraying someone because you're [censored] off does nothing, and makes you look like a dill.

It wasn't a bad move by Buckley because Witts responded afterwards and actually played alright

I know you don't speak for Jack Watts but if any player would want out of the club after a spray like that then they are playing the wrong game and should retire immediately.

I disagree about players deserving a spray. Paul Roos mentioned he already notified Terlich about doing the team things against GWS. Again he didn't follow instructions and it cost us a couple of goals. did he deserve a kick up the backside for not doing the doing team things which resulted in a couple of goals? Absolutely!!

Roos gave Watts and Howe a spray against Sydney. Ever since then they have both been one of our best players since. Again both deserved a spray for not going harder at the contests. For two very talented players it is frustrating for a coach to see them not put in the effort. Sometimes a good spray is what you need to kick start your career.

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I think Buckley is doing a great job with his club, he is setting them up well. As for the spray, he lost it a bit there but it does happen.

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