GOODBYE MR. CHIP FRAWLEY

[Mickey 4,173]

It's simply Swann trying to look after Brisbane. I would hope PJ would do the same if the shoe was on the other foot, protecting his own clubs interest.

Damo saying 'It will now be an issue' is so that, if it becomes an issue, he feels like a slightly more special snowflake. Same with his 'belief' that we will get pick 3, so when it happens he is right again.

[jnrmac 18,953]

Has Frawley gone yet?

[daisycutter 28,507]

Has Frawley gone yet?

he was gorn at the start of the year.....you need to pay attention

[Demon Disciple 10,933]

Greg Swann is just a crybaby

If they had the pick before us we wouldn't hear a peep out of him

Imagine the whining that would be coming out of Swann if Rockliff was an UFA, he'd be demanding the highest compo on offer. Sure Rockliff might be a better player than Chip, but in terms of importance in the team line-up, he'd be no greater than James.

[KingDingAling 3,596]

It is firmly ingrained in Swann to kick the poor clubs, someone needs to remind him he is now at one!

MFC will receive an early pick for Frawley, not based on how good Frawley is - but based on his importance to our side.

Not only that, but I believe there will be a bidding war for James Frawley.

Fremantle clearly need him - and should have cap space. Hawthorn should have cap space, Geelong want and despately need him.

Gold Coast the dark horse.

[whatwhat say what 18,918]

I still think we will get shafted and get pick after round 1, but I would not be at all surprised if afl changed the rules and arbitrarily decided to hand us a mid round 1 pick.

Edited September 30, 2014 by DemonAndrew

[rpfc 27,449]

I am as confident about Pick 3 as I was about Sylvia's Band 3 compensation.

We will have Pick 3.

[Binmans PA 26,049]

No we won't. My sense is that Roos has been given the inside word from AFL House that it will be Pick 3.

Surely this was part of PJ's application in the wake of the GWS embarrassment? To see what our comp for Frawley would be. It was announced as 'no priority pick for Melbourne', but I would be surprised if we didn't hear what our compensation would be then.

[JTR 2,627]

I am as confident about Pick 3 as I was about Sylvia's Band 3 compensation.

We will have Pick 3.

I am concerned if he goes to a club like Geelong, who generally pay their players unders to keep them all together (less than what many would get elsewhere anyway).

What if Frawley gets an 'unders' contract?

How 'unders' can it get before we would risk losing pick 3?

/MFCSS

Edited September 30, 2014 by JTR

[DemonOX 8,530]

Dead set [censored]. Bet if the shoe was on the other foot and Brisbane were losing an AA key defender entering their prime, he'd be stomping his feet having a whinge about Brisbane needing a first round pick.

I do think we'll get pick 3 and I'm confident the AFL have promised it to us behind closed doors, but I also get the distinct feeling there will be faux outrage from other clubs once it happens, and the AFL will end up canceling compo picks as a result.

I can already hear the chorus of whine from other clubs.

Time to get the violins out!

[Tatu 416]

i thought i read somewhere that the AFL had raised the compensation issue with some of the other clubs and that they were comfortable with melbourne getting pick 3 for frawley.

Other clubs or Eddie?

[daisycutter 28,507]

what's it got to do with other clubs?

there's a rule, a formula and the afl is (supposed) to be independent and impartial

[ILLDieADemon 804]

I swear if chip goes to Geelong and they win a flag with Rivers and Clark in there team I'm going to kick my Geelong supporting mate right in the nuts.

[McQueen 17,863]

Greg Swann currently on trade radio having a sook we might be getting pick 3 for Chip

His team Brisbane would move from pick 4 to 5

What a sook, shut the [censored] up Swann you clown

He knows that it'll further dilute their trading power on Beams.

[DEE fence 4,451]

Do we have 105 people who don't use Demonland anymore? surprised by any stay votes.

[SaberFang 7,141]

Geelong pay unders, yes. But the Hawks are premiers and from all reports are leading the race.

Would Chip choose Geelong for less money just to be with Rivers and Clark? One isn't far off retiring and the other might never play a game.

If the Hawks offer $50-$100k more over the same duration, they'd be hard to turn down.

Chip delaying his decision until after the GF says he wants to know what the Hawks are offering, which probably means playing with his mate at Geelong ain't as important as getting himself a better deal.

[Undeeterred 2,864]

Do we have 105 people who don't use Demonland anymore? surprised by any stay votes.

Can you change your vote after you cast it?

[Tatu 416]

Can you change your vote after you cast it?

Why would you bother though?

[Undeeterred 2,864]

Why would you bother though?

Just curious. I was responding to the guy who asked how 105 people could possibly be voting they thought he would stay, in a poll that was set up about 16 years ago, which would sort of explain it...

[WERRIDEE 5,211]

Geelong pay unders, yes. But the Hawks are premiers and from all reports are leading the race.

Would Chip choose Geelong for less money just to be with Rivers and Clark? One isn't far off retiring and the other might never play a game.

If the Hawks offer $50-$100k more over the same duration, they'd be hard to turn down.

Chip delaying his decision until after the GF says he wants to know what the Hawks are offering, which probably means playing with his mate at Geelong ain't as important as getting himself a better deal.

The Hawks have Bruce, Yze and Cheney at the club, it's not as if he won't know anybody there. Frawley is known as a poor decision maker if he goes to Geelong it would be another poor decision.

[angrydee 842]

FWIW, One of Frawley's uncles said at lunch last Friday that James is still undecided whether to stay or go.

[SaberFang 7,141]

Swann's a cantankerous old fool who should get his own house in order before criticising others. If pick 5 isn't enough to get Beams, guess what? There's this magical thing called a trade market. What you do is call the teams with higher picks and offer them players in exchange for getting said higher picks, especially if you've made the inspired decision to poach contracted players from the most difficult trade table club in the league.

So how about you get back to worrying about important issues like, I don't know... fixing your club's $12m debt? Making the Lions remotely relevant? Maybe if you've got any spare brain cells after that you could even turn a profit like us, rather than be drip fed money by the AFL?*

PS: Next time your club sacks a coach, they should probably make sure the replacement wants to come coach you first. Must hurt knowing he chose us instead.

*aware of blatant hypocrisy

[SaberFang 7,141]

As for Malthouse pondering why every club should have to suffer because we can't hold on to Frawley? More great logic there from Mickey. Bet he wouldn't be too concerned about the 11 teams above him on the ladder moving down a pick if he got pick 8 as compensation for losing Gibbs.

Anyway, I doubt we've formed our entire recruitment strategy around the "potential" of getting pick 3. It would've been assured behind closed doors, probably around the time the PP was rejected. Roos isn't dumb enough to say he expects it unless he knows it's coming, lest he look the fool.

[M_9 1,641]

FWIW, One of Frawley's uncles said at lunch last Friday that James is still undecided whether to stay or go.

Same report coming out of Buninyong and Torquay where his folks have a caravan.

[samcantstandya 919]

you just watch - we're going to end up getting end of first round pick for him.

this is stuffed!

No we will get the next pick after our first pick ie we have pick 2 we will get pick 3 compo, just like Hawthorn with Buddy their first pick was 18 they got 19 as compo. Frawley will be on big dollars at either Hawks/Cats therefore it's simple we get pick 3 the other clubs can whinge all they like.