Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted

Anyone who has listened to voss pre and post game on fox knows he has no clues

Proof that a great player does not equal even half decent coach.

What about his comments makes you think he has no clue?

When Voss was sacked the Lions had won 5 of the last 8 and were still a mathematical chance of playing finals.

Posted

Very confident Roos will do the three years and then sign on for another couple after that, you can tell with each week he is getting a taste for it and wants to see this out.

Yeah I get that feeling too. He seems to be getting more and more invested as each week passes. It doesn't hurt that he is seeing fruit from his labour, but to me his tone seems to have changed a bit. Especially this week through the Viney saga.

Posted

Worsfold began as senior coach at 33.

Bomba Thompson at 36.

Mark Williams at 40.

Clarkson at 37.

Roos at 38.

Hinkley at 46 (older than I thought).

John Longmire at 41.

Ross Lyon at 40.

Even Sheedy at 33.

Malthouse at 30.

Leigh Matthews at 35.

I'd say, if you can coach, you can coach.

Age shouldn't be a determinant.

Rawlings is 36.

Posted

Worsfold began as senior coach at 33.

Bomba Thompson at 36.

Mark Williams at 40.

Clarkson at 37.

Roos at 38.

Hinkley at 46 (older than I thought).

John Longmire at 41.

Ross Lyon at 40.

Even Sheedy at 33.

Malthouse at 30.

Leigh Matthews at 35.

I'd say, if you can coach, you can coach.

Age shouldn't be a determinant.

Rawlings is 36.

exactly right, the older long term assistants seem to be the flavour of the month with Hinkley and Richardson

Posted

Surely that's by virtue of his role as lead assistant coach?

He's Roos' number 2. That's always been evident.

I understood that he was the Back line coach and essentially had just as much authority as his counterparts, Matthews and McPherson in the midfield and forward lines. While it's common knowledge that he's the longest serving coach out of the current group, it's never been (to my knowledge) sold to the footy public that he's the most senior (or "lead assistant") as you put it and effectively Roos number 2.

Posted

Yeah I get that feeling too. He seems to be getting more and more invested as each week passes. It doesn't hurt that he is seeing fruit from his labour, but to me his tone seems to have changed a bit. Especially this week through the Viney saga.

Every time he has been asked about it he has said, nothing has changed and I am sticking to the orignal timeframe.

Posted

Roos was a young coach once. As was Clarkson. As is Hinkley.

As was Hardwick, Worsfold, Choco Williams... It's not all that hard.

No I dont think Wiliams was....


Posted

Too much water to go under the bridge yet to speculate. I don't think Roos is going anywhere in the near future. Would be very surprised if he didn't see out his 3 years and by that time anything could happen. Let's just enjoy the present.

Posted

Too much water to go under the bridge yet to speculate. I don't think Roos is going anywhere in the near future. Would be very surprised if he didn't see out his 3 years and by that time anything could happen. Let's just enjoy the present.

Action Jackson said that the successor will be in place by the end of this year however, I'm sure he wouldn't mind going back on his word and announcing that Roosy will be extending his contract.

Although, whilst we all want Roos to stay on, getting a cadet on board as early as possible can only be a good thing and whoever it might be may need a couple of extra years. Lots of scenarios.

Posted

Worsfold began as senior coach at 33.

Bomba Thompson at 36.

Mark Williams at 40.

Clarkson at 37.

Roos at 38.

Hinkley at 46 (older than I thought).

John Longmire at 41.

Ross Lyon at 40.

Even Sheedy at 33.

Malthouse at 30.

Leigh Matthews at 35.

I'd say, if you can coach, you can coach.

Age shouldn't be a determinant.

Rawlings is 36.

Problem has been that we have inexperienced coaches that have been thrown into a cesspool. Little resources and a poorly run footy club with a close enough good enough culture.

Changing the whole culture of the place is as an important a task for Roos and Jackson as the everyday priority of winning games.

  • Like 1
Posted

exactly right, the older long term assistants seem to be the flavour of the month with Hinkley and Richardson

exactly right, the older long term assistants seem to be the flavour of the month with Hinkley and Richardson

I don't think it's as much about the age of Hinkley, Richardson and McCartney but their extensive apprenticeships. Clubs have seen what happened with less experienced coaches (Voss, Hird, Neeld, Watters) and have reacted accordingly. One day it will switch back to fresh young faces when the experienced assistants don't all win Premierships in their first couple of years.

For what it's worth, while Clarkson's idea of a mandatory coaching accreditation scheme seems like a good idea, it shouldn't be necessary. Clubs should realise that it's in their best interests to have a formally trained person undertaking the role.

Posted

Mark Robinson reporting in the Hun that we are set to talk to Bomber Thompson plus couple others including Lingy.

Posted

You are joking surely. Bomber Thompson is completely erratic, and the lowdown is the daily grind. He hates it. This decision will rival Neeld. Ling? Every 2nd word will be "positivity" and his hands will move faster than his brain.

I am glad it was Robinson who was the source. Beer drinking, nail-biting, slob of man with the most predictable blokey cr@p that really represents a waste of my foxtel budget.

Posted

If a Roos stays for the 3 years and brings the team to the brink, it would be hard for him to just walk away at that point I would've thought.

I'm not thinking successors either. I'm holding on to hope of Roosy being in for the long haul.

Yeah, it would like being pregnant then giving up the baby when its born.

Posted

You guys need to work out this maths.

Roos has massive self-confidence and belief in his ability. That is why he took on the poisoned chalice.

Roos has low/no ego. That is why he will hand over the reigns. Handed over Longmire a great list. Will hand over our emerging hardened youngish side to his chosen one.

Posted

Mark Robinson reporting in the Hun that we are set to talk to Bomber Thompson plus couple others including Lingy.

Yay!


  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Every time Roos speaks of the coaching group he make a specific point of how fantastic Jade has been. I have no idea who the club are looking at, but would be far from surprised if Jade is right at the forefront of their thinking.

Posted

I am of the opinion that Roos will sign an extension til the end of 2017 after the end of this year when people are starting to really ask where the successor is.

Posted (edited)

Melbourne should offer Roos and extension for however long he wants to be there; I'd kind of hope he wouldn't leave the club in a vulnerable position after two to three years.

He's our Sherpa and could get us to the top if he stays on.

Edited by RobbieF
Posted (edited)

Melbourne should offer Roos and extension for however long he wants to be there; I'd kind of hope he wouldn't leave the club in a vulnerable position after two to three years.

He's our Sherpa and could get us to the top if he stays on.

I don't think Roos is the type of person to leave something after 2 or 3 years. I just don't think he wants the grind of coach for longer than that.

He may change his mind but I think he will be coach until the end of 2016 and then take a Director of Coaching role (or something similar) from then on.

I am not worried that as soon as October 2016 rolls around Roos will be off in the sunset.

Edited by rpfc
  • Like 2
Posted

Nor am I.

Would completely defeat the purpose of him coming to the club, to abandon it after seeing the team reach mid-table or thereabouts.

  • Like 1
Posted

Too much water to go under the bridge yet to speculate. I don't think Roos is going anywhere in the near future. Would be very surprised if he didn't see out his 3 years and by that time anything could happen. Let's just enjoy the present.

it is quite possible that we could be top 4 or even premiers within three years. If that happens everything changes. Either Roos will get so much satisfaction from digging mfc out of the deep hole they were in and sign on for another three years out of loyalty to the team he has built OR the Roos brand will be worth just so much that that the bigger clubs will pay just unlimited amounts for him like 4 or 5 million a year. It is possible that this is in fact the game Roos is playing. We may be in the long run better off to have a smart young coach trained in the Roos' philosophies under Roos for a couple of years then take over. My tip is that they already have Brett Kirk lined up for this. It makes sense. At the moment he is Lyon's assistant (also trained by Roos), is a great mate of Roos himself and apparently very smart and creative - a lot like Roos himself.in other words a perfect fit. My hunch is that that deal has already been done.

.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force on a scorching morning out at Gosch's Paddock for the final session before the whole squad reunites for the Preseason Training Camp. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS It’s going to be a scorcher today but I’m in the shade at Gosch’s Paddock ready to bring you some observations from the final session before the Preseason Training Camp next week.  Salem, Fritsch & Campbell are already on the track. Still no number on Campbell’s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 3

    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 12

    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!
×
×
  • Create New...