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Been reading about how excited we are about this young man, couldn't find his highlights, so...

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I am trying to not put expectations on this kid but its really hard.

The videos didn't help.

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I am trying to not put expectations on this kid but its really hard.

The videos didn't help.

The good things is despite our midfield, he won't be the sole target up forward, he should have at least a key positon tall or two to help out, plus he has shown he can play CHB if its all one way traffic.

Lets hope he doesn't have to enduer 100 point losses though.

Posted

I am trying to not put expectations on this kid but its really hard.

The videos didn't help.

He's strong enough to carry your expectations. Let them flow.

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Great videos thanks Guys. i particlarly enjoyed the first one to see all those goals against Carlton's VFL side.

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Great stuff. Boy this new forward line is going to be exciting

HF: Hogan. Dawes Lennon

FF: Bleese. Clark. Howe

OR

C: Watts. Viney. Lennon

HF: Hogan. Dawes. Fitzy

FF: Bleese. Clark. Howe.

Extra-ordinarily difficult to match up on, especially on a dry day, or under the roof at etiad.

Can't wait for Viney, Vince, Lennon, Watts, Jones, Tyson, Grimes, Garland, Toumpas long bombs into that forward line and see the havoc wrought. It will be ugly - for opposition teams.

It is going to be an exciting season I reckon.

Will have to get the forward half up and chasing though, specially Bleese and Howe

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He looks rock solid in defence too. Hopefully we won't need him to down there but another strong, tall backman we can rely on will be very, very handy.

Posted

He looks rock solid in defence too. Hopefully we won't need him to down there but another strong, tall backman we can rely on will be very, very handy.

If he ends up playing in the back line I'll be bitterly disappointed.

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If he ends up playing in the back line I'll be bitterly disappointed.

As will I, but if a scenario presents like Frawley going down in the dying minutes with the game in the balance, I would be happy to see him down back after watching that vision.

Ed: That's the context I meant...

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If he ends up playing in the back line I'll be bitterly disappointed.

I don't know, it'd mean Clark and Dawes are killing it.

Posted

I'm not sure Hogan down back at least some of the time is not such a bad thing. David NEITZ says playing on the likes of Carey and Jonathan Brown taught him more about forward play than 10 years of coaching. After all, Carey did famously say Neitz was the best CHB he played on, and I would argue, particularly in the last 5 years of his career Neitz was the most destructive forward in the competition.

hogan I think will in many ways be our modern day Neitz (and Clark playing a fit Schwartz, and Howe ROBBO), that is quite some combination.

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not a chance Hogan plays back

Ridiculous assertion

The boy has Plugger Lockett written all over him,. He will play forward from day 1 and will dominate there until he retires

Posted

We really need Clark and Dawes fit and firing to give Jesse the support he needs in his first senior year. As the third tall in his first year he'd be 2nd to none.

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We really need Clark and Dawes fit and firing to give Jesse the support he needs in his first senior year. As the third tall in his first year he'd be 2nd to none.

I would like him,to have been born in Victoria, that is my only extra wish here.

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I'm not sure Hogan down back at least some of the time is not such a bad thing. David NEITZ says playing on the likes of Carey and Jonathan Brown taught him more about forward play than 10 years of coaching. After all, Carey did famously say Neitz was the best CHB he played on, and I would argue, particularly in the last 5 years of his career Neitz was the most destructive forward in the competition.

hogan I think will in many ways be our modern day Neitz (and Clark playing a fit Schwartz, and Howe ROBBO), that is quite some combination.

Nah...you reckon Carey wishes he played back and Johnno Brown wishes he played back just so they could learn to play forward. I don't think so. This kid monstered VFL defenders just like he will in AFL. He's got the mongrel of plugger and the run and competitiveness of Brown, forget defence and easing him in he's up for the fight round one. We're not talking Watts here, if anyone tries to put it on him they will come off 2nd best.

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he could honestly kick 50+ in his first year.

Clubs will have to put there number 1 defender on Clark

2nd defender on Watts

3rd on Hogan

4th on Dawes.

I reckon Hogan and Watts are more dangerous that Dawes.

But some weeks Hogan could attract 3rd/4th defenders which is amazing

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he could honestly kick 50+ in his first year.

Clubs will have to put there number 1 defender on Clark

2nd defender on Watts

3rd on Hogan

4th on Dawes.

I reckon Hogan and Watts are more dangerous that Dawes.

But some weeks Hogan could attract 3rd/4th defenders which is amazing

Watts will be playing mid but I get your point, there will be enough forward power to keep opposition defenders on their toes.

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Nah...you reckon Carey wishes he played back and Johnno Brown wishes he played back just so they could learn to play forward. I don't think so. This kid monstered VFL defenders just like he will in AFL. He's got the mongrel of plugger and the run and competitiveness of Brown, forget defence and easing him in he's up for the fight round one. We're not talking Watts here, if anyone tries to put it on him they will come off 2nd best.

I don't watch a lot of Casey, so to be honest haven't seen much of Hogan.

However, those videos show a couple of really obvious things which will help from day 1:

  • he uses his body really well, especially for an 18 year old. That first goal against North - he really pushed the defender out of the way
  • he attacks the ball just like Clark does and you can't teach that.
  • finally, he plays in front - a couple of those grabs were just great positioning and the defender couldn't get around his strong position.

Really bodes well for next year.

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he could honestly kick 50+ in his first year.

Clubs will have to put there number 1 defender on Clark

2nd defender on Watts

3rd on Hogan

4th on Dawes.

I reckon Hogan and Watts are more dangerous that Dawes.

But some weeks Hogan could attract 3rd/4th defenders which is amazing

Not sure I fully agree. Dawes and Clark are bigger than Hogan (height and weight) and of course more experienced. I think at least initially we will play Clark at FF ( and he will be picked by up no.1), Dawes at CHF (by no. 2) and hogan as a fast leading HFF (by number 3). Throw in Howe on the other flank and then rest Fitzy in the pocket and you have a complete nightmare for match-ups.

I think teams will try to counter by first of all winning in the mid field, and then a highly defensive punching game and get their smaller backs to run off our tall guys. If we can break even or better in the mid field with long accurate kicks, it will still be a nightmare for opposition.

Roos must be pinching himself with excitement at the strategic fun he will have in directing this particular chess game.

One thing he will drum into them though is the defensive pressure all over the ground will be critical. I think that will be his biggest challenge in getting the gameplan right.

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looking good for the forwards in that dawes, hogan, fits, howe are all good athletes with pretty good pace and engines and can work hard defensively also. could definitely be interesting for opposition back lines. fingers crossed we can keep them all fit.

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If we end up having Hoges, Clark, Dawes and Fitz all down there at once is there a team in the league with a back line with enough height to combat that?

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