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Matthew Primus! Now that really is putting the Mad into Mad Melbourne. Have a look how much better Port are now they've got a coach who knows what they are doing.

I have a different take on the primus tenure, as I feel like he helped to draft and create the list and was not really allowed to take advantage of the hard work!

I think if he was allowed a run this year results would have been similar to hinkleys

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I have a different take on the primus tenure, as I feel like he helped to draft and create the list and was not really allowed to take advantage of the hard work!

I think if he was allowed a run this year results would have been similar to hinkleys

I don't. He wouldn't have got the value out of Kane Cornes for one. He might not have brought Monfries over or had the faith in little Jakey Neade who was fantastic at the start of the year. Plus remember Port one a bunch of close games including 2 very close showdowns they probably had not right to win. It's much easier to win those games with complete faith in your coach and the coach in the players. Primus didn't have that.

One case for your argument though is Darren Burgess the fitness guy coming on. He's helped Hartlett get into the midfield and Gray stay on the park and the overall fitness level im sure.

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I don't. He wouldn't have got the value out of Kane Cornes for one. He might not have brought Monfries over or had the faith in little Jakey Neade who was fantastic at the start of the year. Plus remember Port one a bunch of close games including 2 very close showdowns they probably had not right to win. It's much easier to win those games with complete faith in your coach and the coach in the players. Primus didn't have that.

One case for your argument though is Darren Burgess the fitness guy coming on. He's helped Hartlett get into the midfield and Gray stay on the park and the overall fitness level im sure.

yeh, but those are both might not have, but i feel Monfries was wanting to leave and it was a matter of who had the most to offer, and also i think not too many other clubs were keen.

it is a matter of opinion, but i guess i feel that primus set the building blocks up for the club and started the rebuild, although no doubt hinkley is a good coach i think it says more about the state of the list and the depth the midfield of port was able to develop.

Westhoff and Lobbe are two players who have really shone under hinkley but you can see this with lots of players!

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Can't we just concentrate on the coach that just signed at the moment?

Roos' deal is open ended anyway, this successor could be taking over in 3 years or even 8 years.

Perhaps some here are so deeply damaged by the last 7 years or so, that they are just wondering who will displace the new coach after round 12, 2014 :-((((((

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Yes but FCS the guy has just had his press conference.

Roos has to make this work. At the moment it is about HIM not who takes over.

If the topic doesn't interest you don't post in the thread.

Simpson.

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ikely candidates

Adam Simpson

Dual North Melbourne premiership player and former captain, he has been at Hawthorn as an assistant coach since 2010. A down-to-earth character he wins respect and rapport easily. Remains in line for senior jobs elsewhere but would be primed in two years under Roos.


Alan Richardson

Has been a coach-in-waiting for many seasons and has been wonderful support to Ken Hinkley at Port Adelaide as director of coaching and strategy. Has a great football brain and is a laidback character.


Justin Leppitsch

The triple premiership player at the Brisbane Lions has been an assistant coach at his former club and at Richmond. He has turned the Tigers defence into a miserly outfit.


Brendon Lade

Has admirers at Melbourne due to his Port Adelaide premiership experience and has been a successful midfield coach at the Tigers. Lends an earthy credibility to any environment.


Leigh Tudor

The former North Melbourne and Geelong player has been mentioned as a potential AFL coach in recent weeks, and has been regarded as a key to the recent successes of both St Kilda and the Sydney Swans. Tudor has also coached in his own right, guiding the Western Jets in the TAC Cup under-18 competition in 2004 and taking Geelong's VFL side to a premiership in 2007.


Scott Burns

In his four years at West Coast, the former Collingwood skipper has impressed as a midfield coach, particularly with his intimate knowledge of stoppages. Appears a certain coach in waiting, but may be tempted by senior jobs at West Coast and the Lions.


Peter Sumich

A two-time premiership full-forward with West Coast, Sumich spent 11 years as an assistant coach with the Eagles before joining Fremantle as a forward coach at the end of 2011 when Ross Lyon took over from Mark Harvey. His name always seems to be raised when coaching jobs become vacant.


Sean Wellman

The Essendon premiership defender has served a varied apprenticeship, with his resume featuring assistant coaching roles at the Western Bulldogs (two years) and Melbourne (three) before rejoining the Bombers as their defensive mentor at the end of 2010.


Luke Power

A triple-premiership player with the Brisbane Lions and one of Greater Western Sydney's inaugural co-captains in 2012, Power was a key teacher of the Giants' young list and stayed on their defensive coach this season.


Adrian Fletcher

The well-travelled former midfielder has an extensive coaching background, having served two stints at Collingwood, first as a development coach and later as the Pies midfield coach, along with assistant roles at both Geelong and the Brisbane Lions. He has been with the Lions since the end of 2007.


The others

Nigel Lappin

Few more people in football are more highly respected than Lappin. He seems to have found his niche at Geelong in a development role. Hard worker and players trust him implicitly.


Cameron Ling

Ling retired after leading Geelong to the 2011 premiership, his third as a player. He has worked in the media for two years. Has great personal qualities and views on the game.


Mark Bickley

Recently signed a contract extension as an assistant to Brenton Sanderson at Adelaide. Fits the Melbourne profile in that he has premiership experience (twice) and is an experienced senior assistant – Bickley coached the Crows for six games at the end of 2011 and wanted the senior job with the club before they went with Sanderson.


Nathan Bassett

The former Adelaide defender has developed a strong reputation since taking over the coaching position at SANFL club Norwood, which he took to a Grand Final in his first season of 2010 and a premiership last year. He now has the Redlegs entering the finals after finishing four games clear atop the ladder.


Brett Ratten

The former Carlton coach says he has enjoyed working alongside Alastair Clarkson at Hawthorn and is unsure whether he'd want another crack at senior coaching. Hard to see him playing understudy to Roos for at least two years.


Brett Kirk

Won two best and fairests at the Swans during Ross' time as coach. Was also chosen by Roos to captain the club. In his first year as an assistant coach, it's hard to see Captain Kirk becoming Coach Kirk so quickly.


Dean Laidley

The former North Melbourne coach always gets brought up when vacancies occur. Like Ratten, it is hard to see Laidley wanting to spend two years as an understudy.


John Blakey

Worked with Roos at the Swans, where he remains and is likely to stay. Two-time premiership player at North Melbourne, Blakey has tasted off-field success at the Brisbane Lions and the Swans. Played 359 games. Is highly rated. Wouldn't be the worst choice.


Michael O'Loughlin

Former teammate and premiership pupil of Roos who has won rave reviews as coach of the AIS-AFL Academy. Has already been sounded out by clubs for assistant roles and will be on Roos' radar. His next task will be to coach the Indigenous All Stars team in October.


Tadhg Kennelly

Has already been linked to a development role with the Demons. Unlikely to be in the mix for the senior assistant's job, but likely to be in the red and blue next season.


Mark Williams

Was keen on the job before it was given to Roos. Will be in the mix at the Lions. You'd have to think he's unlikely to want to wait another two seasons.

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Ling, Kirk, Simpson,Black, i would be happy with......outsiders, Oloughlin, Kenneally or even Jade Rawlings who Garlands speaks very highly of.

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Burns / Simpson / Ling

Can hardly go wrong.

Obviously with Ling, Roos would want to be at the club about 5 years and let Ling gradually take the reigns over the last 2, then take the training wheels off.

Ling is my preference.

Just such a quality bloke, universally loved and respected.

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Nathan Bassett could be a smoky as well. His record with success and player development is off the charts, but apparently he's turned down multiple offers of assistant jobs before. Maybe a senior assistant job would be a completely different opportunity that he'd be interested in.

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From what I've heard, Tudor has the makings of a future great coach but then again ... that's what they said about Mark Neeld.

I've heard that he doesn't want to do it. That's why he's been an assistant at Geelong, StKilda and then Sydney and only now has he been talked up. You'd think with that resume he would've been all the rage for the last few years if he was keen.


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so we just got a new coach, the one any team would want and who we chased all year

hes been in the job 6 hours and we are already discussing the coach that will come after him

THis is why it was a bad idea to even mention the words 'succession plan' at the press conference

first mistake Roos and PJ made

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Ling?

Tudor?

Simpson?

Some, are more advanced experience wise than others, so take the best & most experienced, as Roosy's senior assistant.

Then get Lingy as an understudy assistant, & as reserves coach in 2014... I think the best experience, to hold the Reigns at Casey for 1Yr, or 2 years,,, whilst learning the ropes from Roosy.

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Roos for 2 years followed by Roos for 3 years followed by Roos for 2 years (pending results of first 5 years)

I think it is stupid to talk succession plan without having won a premiership.

Until then, nothing is proven anyway so we should look for the best available man for the job not some hyped up powerpoint guru assistant coach (ala Neeld)

Remember, what worked at Sydney may not work here. The thing is to :

1) Find what works at Melbourne

2) Implement at Melbourne and Win Premiership

3) Succeed plan

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Voss? or Kirk?

I don't think Kirky is available yet?

If not, what about NCraig for a year, If he doesn't get a senior Gig? { poss' Craig 2014,,, then maybe Capt Kirk from 2015 }

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