GAMBLING PROBE [update MFC cleared]

[Sir Why You Little 36,587]

Take a chill pill FFS.

As if this wasn't going to happen, and as if our lawyers weren't aware of that.

There is no evidence. There never was. Nobody was match fixing.

Keep the knife away from the wrists, please.

will need more than a chill pill mate. This has the potential to be very bad.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

And melodrama abounds

[sue 9,000]

I know I'll get little sympathy for this, but stuff gambling. If gamblers are so smart, let them take into account pressures on a club to lose as well as form etc in making their damned bets. The only time they can whinge that something was fixed is when someone manufactures a surprising result from secret information.

[diesel 420]

Look at the corruption in Horse Racing! If that industry is allowed to continue to operate I'm sure the little old MFC will be allowed to keep it's 75 Poker Machines.

[old dee 23,482]

Look at the corruption in Horse Racing! If that industry is allowed to continue to operate I'm sure the little old MFC will be allowed to keep it's 75 Poker Machines.

That is the exactly problem diesel

It is easy to do in a small player like the MFC and they them trumpet

See we weed out corruption.

Lot harder to do something about the whole racing industry.

The small always get screwed and the large carry on.

[jabberwocky 2,301]

An investigation may be as simple as reading the brief. I conduct investigations all the time, "who left the milk on the bench?" "why can I never find clean socks" and "who let the dogs out".

There would be an obligation on them to hold an "investigation".

[bing181 8,898]

I conduct investigations all the time ...

Yes, we guessed that from your avatar.

[Vipercrunch 2,820]

Key word in the articles re: the Gaming Commission thing is "inquiry". They want to be seen to do the right thing, get the run down on what happened and give it all a big tick.

I don't think it is a concern.

[Damo 3,238]

Just when I thought everyone was going back to their knitting..

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,644]

Mind you, no statement on the VCGLR's website. Timms didn't just make this up - or perhaps pinched old 'intel' from Demonland, did he?

[Philthy 284]

Seriously, FFS everybody CHILL! We will be fine, we will not lose our pokie revenue...Close thread mod.

[Biffen 12,805]

Look at the corruption in Horse Racing! If that industry is allowed to continue to operate I'm sure the little old MFC will be allowed to keep it's 75 Poker Machines.

Betting on horses has only been corrupt for probably the last few thousand years.

It's the pokies industry that is destroying more lives than we will ever know .

The AFL should not be in the pocket of big gaming .

But it is-and once again ,it's a problem of their own creation .

We ,as a club ,should be investing in Brick and Mortar assets to assure our future.

As long as our poker machines are not rigged (more than any others)I think we will be OK.

[rpfc 28,045]

Guys, cool your jets.

The VCGLR has to do something and they have brought it up internally when AA started this mess as I stated in a post a few weeks back.

The key was the AFL clearing us of tanking but they are an independent organisation and must do their due diligence.

Bailey and Connolly won't affect our licences, but the club may have to answer a few questions at some point.

You can become worried if it escalates but until then, enjoy the relative quiet.

[Dr. Gonzo 23,682]

"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!"

But seriously not too fussed about this except that I hope it blows over before the season starts so we don't have more off-field distractions - and does anyone else see the irony in the VCGLR inquiring into suspected rigging of matches in order to take away a licence to have pokie machines which every man and his dog knows are rigged by a computer chip to only pay out 83% of the time?

[old dee 23,482]

Guys, cool your jets.

The VCGLR has to do something and they have brought it up internally when AA started this mess as I stated in a post a few weeks back.

The key was the AFL clearing us of tanking but they are an independent organisation and must do their due diligence.

Bailey and Connolly won't affect our licences, but the club may have to answer a few questions at some point.

You can become worried if it escalates but until then, enjoy the relative quiet.

rpfc for many months a large number of people on here were telling us the result of the AFL inquiry would be "no case to answer"

We now know that was way off the mark.

I will believe we are safe from the gaming commission when they say "no case to answer".

[Sir Why You Little 36,587]

rpfc for many months a large number of people on here were telling us the result of the AFL inquiry would be "no case to answer"

We now know that was way off the mark.

I will believe we are safe from the gaming commission when they say "no case to answer".

agreed. Yesterday the club was found guilty without using the "T" word.

Whether its right or wrong we need no heat from the Gaming Licences.

[rpfc 28,045]

rpfc for many months a large number of people on here were telling us the result of the AFL inquiry would be "no case to answer"

We now know that was way off the mark.

I will believe we are safe from the gaming commission when they say "no case to answer".

Semantically, OD - we had no case to answer. The AFL says we did not tank.

Now you and I don't like it, but substantially, we have been cleared.

[sue 9,000]

Wouldn't the AFL have a lot to worry about with a gambling probe, at least if it was wider than just the current case. The AFL's line appears to be that positional changes etc are fine as long as it is not done to gain a better draft pick. But from a gambling perspective, what difference does the motive for the positions changes etc make if you do it to increase the probability of losing a game to get a home final or a draft pick

[old dee 23,482]

Semantically, OD - we had no case to answer. The AFL says we did not tank.

Now you and I don't like it, but substantially, we have been cleared.

But no one believe that rpfc least of all the gaming commission.

They don't care about settlements, for the good of the AFL, or anything else.

[hardtack 10,400]

Just when I thought everyone was going back to their knitting..

Therein lies the problem. Everyone HAS gone back to their knitting... and the MFC is Marie Antoinette.

[Fitz Fitzpatrick 886]

I am quite suprised at the apparnet lack of concern on this forum for the latest developments. I think we are potentially in a world of trouble. as Sue said , the commission wont differentiate between motives but will determine whether or not actions were taken which could be perceived as tilting match day or attempting to tilt match day results. If their findings reflect this then they are free to act as they wish and will be well within their powers to remove or at the very least, suspend our gaming license. And that, my fellow Demon lovers, could set a course of events in motion that will result in the club no longer existing in its current entity. This is a VERY grave development.

[daisycutter 29,296]

Semantically, OD - we had no case to answer. The AFL says we did not tank.

Now you and I don't like it, but substantially, we have been cleared.

We have not been cleared, we have been SHAFTED big time

We are guilty in the eyes of everyone despite the afl's pathetic effort of incomprehendable spin

It has cost us a min of $1M in fines and legal costs and who knows what in sponsorship and membership

It has derailed the club for 8 months and its not over

We have had the most appalling media coverage

We have been scapegoated for what others pioneered before us and will never be brought to account

Two careers have been severely damaged

We have been made a laughing stock in the football world

We are still a fractured club internally if reports are to be believed

It may not be fair and balanced but we have been SHAFTED big time

And I am so pizzed off at our current position i couldn't begin to explain

[old dee 23,482]

We have not been cleared, we have been SHAFTED big time

We are guilty in the eyes of everyone despite the afl's pathetic effort of incomprehendable spin

It has cost us a min of $1M in fines and legal costs and who knows what in sponsorship and membership

It has derailed the club for 8 months and its not over

We have had the most appalling media coverage

We have been scapegoated for what others pioneered before us and will never be brought to account

Two careers have been severely damaged

We have been made a laughing stock in the football world

We are still a fractured club internally if reports are to be believed

It may not be fair and balanced but we have been SHAFTED big time

And I am so pizzed off at our current position i couldn't begin to explain

My thoughts too dc.

Amen

[Dee Fan 3,247]

We have not been cleared, we have been SHAFTED big time

We are guilty in the eyes of everyone despite the afl's pathetic effort of incomprehendable spin

It has cost us a min of $1M in fines and legal costs and who knows what in sponsorship and membership

It has derailed the club for 8 months and its not over

We have had the most appalling media coverage

We have been scapegoated for what others pioneered before us and will never be brought to account

Two careers have been severely damaged

We have been made a laughing stock in the football world

We are still a fractured club internally if reports are to be believed

It may not be fair and balanced but we have been SHAFTED big time

And I am so pizzed off at our current position i couldn't begin to explain

I agree with most of that and I wonder if those that thought they had the best interests of the club at heart and only wanted to get rid of CS and a few others were aware of the ramifications of their treachery.

Perhaps Fanbob would like to give us his thoughts, he's been quiet for a while now. Still happy with Wilson?

McLean, Riley, Prendegast all Melbourne to Carlton, all up to their necks in this.

[mjt 640]

I am quite suprised at the apparnet lack of concern on this forum for the latest developments. I think we are potentially in a world of trouble. as Sue said , the commission wont differentiate between motives but will determine whether or not actions were taken which could be perceived as tilting match day or attempting to tilt match day results. If their findings reflect this then they are free to act as they wish and will be well within their powers to remove or at the very least, suspend our gaming license. And that, my fellow Demon lovers, could set a course of events in motion that will result in the club no longer existing in its current entity. This is a VERY grave development.

Why worry anymore, this club lurches from one disaster to the next, theres never any joy following the Demons.