Oliver Wines

[rjay 24,689]

Nup Inside grunt beats outside run and carry in my book ANYDAY!

Our greatest need is WINES not Toumpas!

Not having a go here 'picket' but interested to know how you would classify Judd. Is he inside grunt or run and carry? What about Ablett?

[Guest NoMoreMrNiceGuy]

Nup Inside grunt beats outside run and carry in my book ANYDAY!

Our greatest need is WINES not Toumpas!

This view is so simplistic it beggars belief. It's as though you think Toumpas is never going to lay a tackle his whole career and just wait on the fringes of the pack for someone to hand it to him on a plate like some frightened little wide receiver!

Read Quigley's mock draft write of him. Toumpas ....

"Has added a few more strings to his bow this year and should end up being a good all-round midfielder capable of winning his own ball on the inside and then spreading very well to receive on the outside.

"He passes off the ball and then works his butt off for 15-20 metres to see if he is needed to get the ball back or to tackle or corral the opposition. This bit of extra work on plays paid off time after time and saw him continually positively impacting plays."

"His tackling is also very strong and his strength in the contest is also good for a guy who is not terribly big."

And last but not least ...

"Toumpas has leadership skills. He was the SA captain this year and it was evident that he was the leader out there. I could definitely see him captaining an AFL team one day."

Take your blinkers of Picket-F ... this kid is TOP SHELF talent in every respect.

[DemonWA 3,889]

The whole 'Wines vrs O'Rouke' was inside vrs out, or mature body vrs lighter build.

Toumpas is pretty much a complete package, the best of both worlds..... not too skinny to play against men, quick enough to play outside, kicks goals, great leadership qualities, the list goes on.

[Bossdog 2,002]

The whole 'Wines vrs O'Rouke' was inside vrs out, or mature body vrs lighter build.

Toumpas is pretty much a complete package, the best of both worlds..... not too skinny to play against men, quick enough to play outside, kicks goals, great leadership qualities, the list goes on.

That's why I think GWS is spinning a bit of crap here and will take him at pick #3....

[daisycutter 29,465]

I usually let it go but it was more the irony of the mispell that had me giggling.

excuses excuses.....be happy being a spelling nazi.....it's ok, really...dinks....don't fight it B)

[Deestroy All 14,262]

Nup Inside grunt beats outside run and carry in my book ANYDAY!

Our greatest need is WINES not Toumpas!

Does it? Which Hawthorn inside mid was it that chased Lewis Jetta down the wing on GF day? That's right, none of them.

It takes all types. We have inside mids, and we have the best one from this draft.

We don't have speed and skill that can run all day. So when the chance to rectify that is handed to you on a platter, you graciously accept it, or you are a fool.

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Thompson was a decade a ago.

Scully's was a unique situation owing to the introduction of a ridiculously cashed up franchise playing by a different set of rules to everyone else. What's more, we actually capitalized on that situation by cleverly snaring top-tier compensation for him.

No club worth it's salt restricts it's recruiting to state allegiances. It's preposterous.

It's fair enough you'd prefer Wines but stick to the hip surgery angle on Toumpas. It's your best bet.

i think Atletico Bilbao still do something like this, only signing players of Basque origin in spain

The club is known for its cantera policy of bringing young Basque players through the ranks, as well as recruiting top Basque players from other clubs (like Joseba Etxeberria or Javi Martínez). Athletic official policy is signing professional players native to or footballistically trained in the greater Basque Country, including Biscay, Guipúzcoa, Álava, Navarre and La Rioja (in Spain); andLabourd, Soule and Lower Navarre (in France). Still, in recent times, this policy has been somewhat relaxed and players with direct Basque ancestry have played for the team. This has gained Athletic both admirers and critics. The club has been praised for promoting home grown players and club loyalty. Athletic is one of only four professional clubs in Spain in Primera División (the others being Real Madrid, Barcelona and Osasuna) that is not a sports corporation; the club is owned and operated by its associates (socios).

just a fun fact.....

But i agree with your thought

[rjay 24,689]

i think Atletico Bilbao still do something like this, only signing players of Basque origin in spain

...and Barcelona take Messi, go figure.

[DeeZee 7,359]

Look at the swans Hawks grand final.

The contested ball stats won it.

Hawks foot skills meant nothing because Swans had more of it.

[rjay 24,689]

Look at the swans Hawks grand final.

The contested ball stats won it.

Hawks foot skills meant nothing because Swans had more of it.

Actually foot skills on goal let them down, not the first team that's happened to.

[PaulRB 6,310]

Mighty MORTON won it for the Swannies. We should get us one of them.

[DeeZee 7,359]

Actually foot skills on goal let them down, not the first team that's happened to.

Yes but largely due to Swannies pressure.

[nutbean 8,838]

I usually let it go too, but couldn't this time.

Definition of mispell: Common misspelling of misspelling.

Quite a touch of irony there, eh!

I didnt know whether to go with "mispell" or "misspell word worng" - i thought "mispell" was little more sublte

[mjt 640]

I didnt know whether to go with "mispell" or "misspell word worng" - i thought "mispell" was little more sublte

must be nice to be a Grammar Queen.

[Hannibal 5,814]

I didnt know whether to go with "mispell" or "misspell word worng" - i thought "mispell" was little more sublte

Just take your medicine, mate.

[mfcrox 143]

A mate just messaged me...

Toumpas to Melbourne

Wines to Bulldogs

Menzel to Carlton

[Guest NoMoreMrNiceGuy]

Poor bastard. [censored] club to get picked up by.

[Clintosaurus 7,724]

Poor Ollie - off to Port.

[Nasher 33,607]

Off to Port. Good luck - I already felt like you were one of ours and I'll watch with interest.

I'm so happy.

[biggestred 4,869]

dont worry ollie - just come to us in 2 years mate.

[beelzebub 23,254]

Good luck Ollie; give us a call in a couple of years !!

[daisycutter 29,465]

Oy Vey Ollie. Chin up, see you in 2015

[rpfc 28,087]

Looked devastated when Dixon interviewed him.

The exact opposite of Toumpas, really.

Good luck to him.

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

The rumours were why take Toumpas? When he has a go home factor.

Well we have an instant swap in store if he gets home sick.

A direct swap Tompy for Winesy.

Not a bad deal win / win.

If Tompy likes us and plays well then all's well that ends well.

Edited November 22, 2012 by Chippy

[45HG 1,539]

Looked devastated when Dixon interviewed him.

The exact opposite of Toumpas, really.

Good luck to him.

Did he? That's no good to hear - I wish the kid all the best.