MRP for Hogan and Lewis

[nutbean 8,837]

2 minutes ago, TheoX said:

Wow the MRP hate us, fair enough on the Lewis one given the injury but 2 weeks for Hogan is ridiculous.

what girds my loins is it is not 2 - it is 3 down to 2...it ain't a 3 week incident....

Edited April 3, 2017 by nutbean

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

On what basis can they appeal? They both punched a player in the face behind the play. 

Totally dispute that they "punched". 

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

7 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

Really? You know it's from Lewis and not from incidental contact in the other 117 minutes of football?

 

Show me some vision of him being hit in the jaw at any other stage during the game.

 

Andddd go.

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

4 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

 

Show me some vision of him being hit in the jaw at any other stage during the game.

 

Andddd go.

Contact could have occurred in any scrimmage, bump, or hitting the turf.  How would anybody know otherwise.  However, the reality is, this will never be tested.  Anything else is just hypothesising and that is what is wrong with the entire MRP process.  Summary and arbitrary.

[Pates 9,537]

Well, didn't see that coming. Obviously if Cripps suffered a fractured jaw as a result of Lewis than it was a harder than we first thought. I still think 3 weeks is OTT but he has a bad record so we knew what we were getting with him. 

Hogan's 2 week sentence feels harsh particularly as it's weighted to be 3 down to 2. First offence, stupid but the player continued for the day unless I'm mistaken. Maybe there was a further medical report that did Hogan in as well. 

To those who were advocating the "unsociable Demons" how's that looking now? 3 of our most important players unavailable for a total of 6 weeks, worth it? As I've said earlier, we need to be tough and uncompromising but that's not what this is. Hogan was frustrated so he lashed out. Lewis loves his cheap shots, always has and let's be honest if he was still wearing brown and gold we'd probably be cheers this decision. 

I'm glad we're not in bruise free footy anymore, but let's get tough at the footy and not be sniping idiots. 

[chook fowler 18,327]

Be interested in seeing how Lewis explains himself on AFL 360 tonight. The fact that 2 of our leaders have been suspended in consecutive weeks is a disgrace. The club needs to address it.

[DDEE 25]

He's not the messiah.......he's just a very naught boy!

[Wiseblood 24,636]

1 hour ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Jesse two weeks down to one and Lewis three weeks with no discount due to his record.

Just announced.

Was always going to happen, too many one-eyed supporters on 'land.

You're starting to sound like Saty with how often you say stuff like this, Steve.  You're better than that.

They were both silly boys but I hardly feel the punishment fit the crime.  Unless the club feel there is grounds for an appeal then there isn't anything we can do about it.  We can be angry, frustrated, annoyed, but it gets us nowhere.

Time for a few others to step up.  I'd rather Pedersen come in for Hogan, too.  Gives us more up forward than Spencer.

[thesleepinggiant 160]

What a load of absolute! @#!..... MRP have no f.....ing idea!. Scott Thompson the biggest weak piece of #@!/ only gets 1 week for a dog act. 

[John Crow Batty 8,266]

This will be a good early  test of our resilience and depth. Personally I'm happy to see the extra mongrel. I'm sure the players will learn and focus their aggression better for the remainder of the season. The next couple of rounds will show if it has hurt us but for now 2 for 2 is as good as it gets.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

13 minutes ago, TheoX said:

Wow the MRP hate us, fair enough on the Lewis one given the injury but 2 weeks for Hogan is ridiculous.

Yes, Hogan one was purely don't give me any and get out of my face....seemed to slide up a bit off his chest tho. The Lewis one seems fair enough of a player is injured.

[Dr. Gonzo 22,523]

1 hour ago, Fifty-5 said:

Punches to the head off the play are going to be viewed dimly.  Apparently things have changed a fair bit since 2005 PF.

Hogan was waiting for the kick to come in so he could argue it's "in play" though I don't think that matters anymore with the new system - does it?

[Deeoldfart 7,788]

Both Hogan and Lewis were undisciplined and stupid to do what they did.

The MRP are guilty of handing down sanctions that don't stack up, no matter what angle you are coming from.

I'm just gutted.  It's certainly taken some of the gloss off being 2 zip.

Time for the Dees to take this setback in their stride.  Show the football world that we are the real deal and stare down the face of adversity.

[thesleepinggiant 160]

Im sure the heads at AFL call the mrp and dictate whats f....ing what!!!

Not happy Jan!!!!

[Wilbur 447]

Not  bothered really  good to   see   a  bit of   mongrel for  a change  

[Dr. Gonzo 22,523]

1 hour ago, drdrake said:

Memo to all Melbourne players, if you whack someone in the stomach you get off but stay away from the head no matter how hard you hit them head will get you weeks a stomach punch a fine at tops

Going for the head is just dumb. No way you'll get off these days with all the concussion issues. Even hits to the stomach are unlikely to be viewed lightly, pretty sure they said they'll scrutinise that more this year.

[Dr. Gonzo 22,523]

1 hour ago, dl4e said:

Hogan gets 2 for a retalitory love tap. I am sorry but that is a joke. Lewis has been thrown to the wolves. The mrp are a joke. 

I wonder if Hogan's would've been less severe if Lewis wasn't cited too. Of course every action should be assessed on its merits but we know the AFL doesn't work that way.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,447]

12 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Be interested in seeing how Lewis explains himself on AFL 360 tonight. The fact that 2 of our leaders have been suspended in consecutive weeks is a disgrace. The club needs to address it.

Is he on tonight or Tuesday night? 

[highroller 112]

on the plus the 2015 game down at the Cattery we had no Lewis and no Hogan ----no worries

[Dr. Gonzo 22,523]

25 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

Totally dispute that they "punched". 

The footage I saw they both looked like closed fists. Hogan may have a case to get it down to 1 or 0 (if it was an open palm) but Lewis I'm afraid not.

Edited April 3, 2017 by Dr. Gonzo

[Deemented Are Go! 3,602]

17 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Be interested in seeing how Lewis explains himself on AFL 360 tonight. The fact that 2 of our leaders have been suspended in consecutive weeks is a disgrace. The club needs to address it.

Players night is Tuesdays, old Chook 

[loges 6,132]

1 minute ago, highroller said:

on the plus the 2015 game down at the Cattery we had no Lewis and no Hogan ----no worries

They didn't play in the great win against Hawthorn last year either, of course Lewis was on the other side, we just have to win without them!

[Biffen 12,364]

Lewis and Vince reducing their game load by swapping in and out is the only positive.old heads like these guys are not going to change their aggressive natures this late- rightly or wrongly.

For two 30 plus year olds this gives us another chance to play someone up and coming.

The question is who to replace Hogan with.

Seems to be out of an underdone Pedersen and Frost or an in form Spencer.

I seem to recall Hogan out and Spencer in last time we pantsed Geelong.So it may be the right formula,though we must take into account Geelong are struggling for tall forwards and are throwing Harry T around as an option.

Kent coming in doesn't seem likely yet judging from Caseys game.

Tim Smith is not exactly killing it yet either .

Looks like Vince and Spencer in for Hogan and Lewis out.

Just realised this should be in the selection thread but it is changed forced upon us by suspensions.

[Demons11 6,404]

21 minutes ago, Pates said:

Well, didn't see that coming. Obviously if Cripps suffered a fractured jaw as a result of Lewis than it was a harder than we first thought. I still think 3 weeks is OTT but he has a bad record so we knew what we were getting with him. 

Hogan's 2 week sentence feels harsh particularly as it's weighted to be 3 down to 2. First offence, stupid but the player continued for the day unless I'm mistaken. Maybe there was a further medical report that did Hogan in as well. 

To those who were advocating the "unsociable Demons" how's that looking now? 3 of our most important players unavailable for a total of 6 weeks, worth it? As I've said earlier, we need to be tough and uncompromising but that's not what this is. Hogan was frustrated so he lashed out. Lewis loves his cheap shots, always has and let's be honest if he was still wearing brown and gold we'd probably be cheers this decision. 

I'm glad we're not in bruise free footy anymore, but let's get tough at the footy and not be sniping idiots. 

I still think the timing around Lewis hitting Cripps stopped their momentum and then  lead to us winning the game. 

[DDEE 25]

I'm just not into it, they were stupid actions & now they take their penalties.  Time to look at the replacements. From...Pedo, Spencer or perhaps we unleash the bull in T Smith, also Bugg, Kent, Treners, Kennedy. Frost might be ready, not sure avb, Keilty can't be far away, and of course Bernie will be back. Replace the soldiers and fight on.