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I hate the way the VFL has been merged with the Reserves. Tomorrow I get to watch the Demons Reserves (aka Casey) play a torpedo punt* from my home. But I'll feel like a goddamn traitor when my Coburg drinking buddies see me in red and blue. Any other week I support the Lions. Coburg Lions are really struggling this year. It's hard to compete against AFL clubs and professional athletes. All Demon fans going to Coburg, please eat as many snags and chips as you can, and drink the Coburg Lager. Help keep the Lions viable. * I'm probably talking 5 x Malcolm Blight torps if I'm honest

He did some good things. He could realistically have had 4 goals and then you rave about his game. His goal kicking was atrocious, which is ironic as it’s been quite good at AFL level. He got frustrated at times, but when you look at Jefferson you see a natural forward who just understands how to play that role. Grundy isn’t that. But can he help bring the ball to ground and compete up forward? I think he can. But a natural forward he ain’t.

Agree. Matthew Jefferson on recent showings has something of the 'Basketball Jones' about him. Terrific judgement aerially, an elite kicking action, growing confidence physically, plus some 'magic' when the ball hits the deck. Postscript; Liked Deakyn Smith's game too, has a nice mix of silky skills, physicality and is getting his hands on the ball more frequently this season.

And just remember the [censored] Eagles supporters used to give us back then, I think it’s fantastic

I don't think enough has been said about Woey keeping his spot with other players available. Well done lad, keep it going.

Here we go again. More rubbish speculation on some unknown dees player who supposedly has zero time for the Demon army. Seriously, who cares. Has nothing to do with this thread. Back on topic, here are a few dot points on what I'm looking forward to this weekend against the Crows • Max going solo again. If he has another game like he did against the Lions then the discussion ramps up again regarding the debate on Grundy's worth in the team • Another week for Brown and JVR to build some cohesion up forward. We really need this forward line humming before finals. • Petracca up forward and the midfield taking care of business without him. • Mcvee match up on Rankine. • Kozzie to hopefully show that he's back in form.

I could watch a live feed of Chris Scott in the coaches box all game.

You need to consider we have had many weeks with no Salem or Hibberd injured/managed and no Oliver meaning Brayshaw into the pivot meaning he has generally had a spot in the back 7 most weeks. McVee and Rivers sustained impact and Bowey’s recent return to form means something has to give if they want Hibbo into the run for finals. Bowey is too good to be at VFL so considering his skill set may fill the gap left by Spargos current and Chandlers recent form it seems a alternative we should consider over omission even if not tried before now.

Some great stuff on bomberblitz. Loved this one..... We’ve turned plenty of corners, but we exist in a closed maze.

What I would pay to see Geelong turn into West Coast and become a rabble. Thats how much I hate the [censored].

Thought I could see some development happening for the AFL listed. Jefferson finding good positions, Adams looking stronger, Verrall getting some involvement, Deakin.S playing well, Sestan, though not much involvement is looking fit, running out the game and looks like he has improved his skin folds. Spargo and Dunstan played well. Harmes, I wish he wouldn't play himself or others into trouble. Dursma can take a mark. Edwards looks composed, moves well, gets involved. Grundy nearly, though for a big paid, player should be dominating at VFL level. Started taking his marks in the 4th.

Duursma is going to be a gun.

Mason Cox is truly a blight on our game

What a pity for the Cats. My heart breaks for them. Time for the Dees to finally consolidate a position in the Top 4.

Surely it’s time to put Gunston in defence as a spare man?

31% of Curnow’s 61 goals has come against the Eagles. Makes you wonder about the equality of this year’s Coleman medal.

It went really well. The Wiz says he’s an introvert but he regaled us with stories for almost two hours! His 6yo daughter, Scout, stole the show a few times though. The best was when she interrupted her dad on stage (at the conclusion of the bombers/ bulldogs match) to announce that we’re still fourth on the ladder. She even proved it by holding a phone up to show him. Titus is a legend. No one guessed Jeff would talk for so long and Titus waited patiently for the entire time. He did his usual type of material except he cut it short because of how late it was. He wasn’t paid for last night, but you wouldn’t know it. He truly is a Dees diehard. The turnout was good. A room full of passionate fans makes for a fun night. This morning one of our illustrious leaders told me she thinks there were some DL-ers there. I didn’t know that, but thanks so much for your support, it means a lot to us and the Past Players Association. Also, bummer I didn’t get to meet any fellow DL-ers. Maybe next time!

I'd reconsider those brekky bongs if I were you.

Absolutely. He will keep improving with experience. Is very composed with his disposal and that is something a few in our side lack. We have found another soldier.

seeing 40k bombers supporters get all excited and then get smashed?

Port play an attacking style. If they’d steadied more often they would have won comfortably. They got sucked in to Collingwood’s mania. We don’t do that. I’m confident we can beat both these teams when it matters.

He is 19. just unbelievable [censored] what he is doing

Commentary team love affair for collingwood is sickening.

An update for the death riders

Mathew Jefferson will be a brilliant forward for us, BOOKMARK IT!🤩

Haha We purposely kept our distance.

I was sceptical of Jefferson early..no impact..he is showing consistent improvement and I think has a few extra badly needed kgs. Well done.

Jefferson is special. Adams also looks the goods at the other end. Seston not doing much.

Very good contested mark already and an accurate kick. Another pre season and more muscle and he will be JVR’s key forward partner.

If Freo lose tonight, they could very well go on to only win one more game. Which is against West Coast. Their remaining games are: Geelong in Geelong -10+ goal loss Brisbane at Optus- 10+ goal loss if they can’t even beat Swans at home Eagles at Optus- A 10 goal win. Eagles are a steaming pile of [censored] Port at Optus- A 10+ goal loss Hawks at the G- a probable loss

I'm glad we didn't. What help is that sort of game for development and/or plsyers pushing their case for senior selection

What makes it a Mickey Mouse season? It was a full season, we won it without a single home final, and won it convincingly. I do not agree with that notion at all!

I think you put forward a fact that resulted in a veil of suspicion coming over people we all want to really rate. Challenged on this, of course you couldn't elaborate. It wasn't your intention to cause any of the angst I'm sure, and yet with hindsight the reactions are not all that surprising. It matters so much to so many on here... Water under the bridge now? I for one really enjoy your posts and the positivity characterising your whole persona on here. There are all sorts of people on Demonland, and some prominent posters are not my cup of tea. So we're all different - and you will probably get roughed up once in a while - I have been. But where else do we have such a passionate disparate collection of fellow-travellers? You enrich the site no end. Please, stick around.

Wow, Geelong really delivering on Scott's 'Brilliant' 'new' 'strategy' of 'getting inside the heads of opponents' by 'announcing themselves as contenders'. Maybe I should move that particular breath of sarcasm to the Damien Barrett thread, but wow, Geelong must have had yet another bout of the whole team being sick the night before.

Stupid useless Hawthorn. Ruining our lives since forever.

Works for the wife...

Nice goal to Sestan who has been quiet.

Excellent work by Grundy. Crashes a pack at CHF and roves his own work, then a quick dish off ending up with the Shack directly in front. That's his bag. If he can break packs and follow up quickly it's the best of both worlds for him.

Coming out of the side are Bailey Laurie and Joel Smith - you would assume one of them will be the sub for Melbourne tomorrow. Zane Duursma wearing # 46

On my way to game, and realise from The Red Fox that it’s the ground we were at for the weekend after Norm was sacked - the only time Melbourne played at North’s then home ground. Ominously it was round 13, and we were well beaten in front of 8,312 hardy fans. We did at least salvage a League record out of the rubble of that round, and one unlikely to be beaten: temporary coach Checker Hughes was the oldest person then to have coached an AFL team, and remains so at 71 years, 148 days. Dunno whether that qualifies for the “embarrassing records” thread or not, but it is what it is.

cancel the useless eastern rail loop and you save billions. it's already headed for massive over runs reform of work cover charges could save billions too but i fear we were conned and we'll get naught from the state gummint stuck with casey/aami for at least another decade

He doesn't play those positions, he hasn't trained for it and doesn't know the system properly. Yes he is a brilliant by foot but thats no good if he isn't putting on pressure and in the right spots. Brayshaw is a midfielder and i think thats where he wil be even at full strength, its exactly what we did last year this time. Why would he be omitted? Rivers is playing more up the ground in the Wing rotation Brayshaw is in the middle.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/dockers-ponder-how-to-fill-sean-darcy-ruck-void-c-11322958 Reidy, who is listed at 204cm and 104kg, tallied 39 hitouts and seven disposals in his most recent WAFL hitout. Was a fwd who can ruck and now seems to be ruck / fwd from Victoria I think we need him

You do realize the Vic gov is 170 billion in the hole There wont be a spare 1 to 2 dollars let alone 1to2 billion the whole exercise was cynical politics by Dan who will probably exit at Xmas time I really dont think there will be much government money available in the medium term

Congratulations to Mitch and his lovely partner on their engagement.

I'm positive that's exactly how he would spell it.