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Have you thought of moving to Melbourne's leafy inner east and calling yourself Far Kew? ?

I drove past his house today and there was a toe truck outside. Make of that what you will.

Or if that's too far south for you, you could move to Kurnell just out of Sydney. Obviously not Inner Kurnell. Far Kurnell is a much better place to be.

Salute to the greatest political slogan I can remember. I believe Singleton came up with it for Labor's 1972 campaign which broke their 23 year electoral drought. Drought breaking hit an obvious nerve for a lifelong Dees supporter. When I chose it in about 2007 I thought we were entering the new era that was going to break our drought and I didn't expect it to be relevant for more than a few years. Oh well. Will gladly replace it when it becomes redundant. Although by then it will be relevant to the 2 peat and then the 3 peat etc. The slogan and it's success had some significant impacts on my families lives. My brother had just been advised he was going in the next lottery for conscription to the Vietnam war. Whitlam won the election and immediately stopped conscription which probably saved my brother going there. He also brought in free tertiary education which I benefited directly from. That slogan heralded in one of the craziest political periods in our history. A breathtaking series of political reforms such as the Marriage Act and land rights and economic madness like the Khemlani affair and Junie Morosi. Who'll ever forget Al Grassby. Ahh they were the days. All leading to our greatest political crisis. What a slogan. My avatar succinctly sums me up. We were born on the same day. Not the same year though. I got the clown bit without the genius bit but hopefully a healthy sense of the absurd. Other less kind people might say I got the absurd without anything else. Anyhow..... It's Time.

Nice thread In Harmes Way. I've given it a go, created some more cryptic clues for current day players: A) I'm desperate to watch this Dee play in Darwin, in order to see him, i'll even take the jumbo, ta, thanks for offering. B) Interestingly, King and Colbert were both born after April. C) Many on here might not like Hird, but i feel sorry for him, I hope he can stay out of danger. Improved out of sight. D) The Grouch and the Farmer. Coming along in leaps and bounds. E) Always tries hard. Namesake of the great. Big tank. F) Absolute gun, please sir, may i have some more, highlights reels from you this year. Heard Sheedy said he had a joke of an interview for our coaches position G) I love doughnuts, but what is my middle name? The fox's abode is in sight. Chase that fox. Hope he lives up to his potential. H) Speedy. A bit too predictable. May go cold / missing in action from time to time. I) Edgerton has been able to Forge a path in the Aussie film industry. J) Great at taking marks effortlessly, lissome, kicks skillfully, has a massively long kick for goal. What more can you ask for?

Original and obscure. Love it Way better than some here who have boringly named themselves after their geographical location

From an episode of the Beverly Hillbillies in which the Hollywood actor Dash Riprock’s (aka Homer Noodleman) friend and fellow actor Crunch Hardtack impressed Jethro so much that he decided to give himself the stage name of Beef Jerky... for some reason Hardtack seemed like a pretty good name to have.

Judging by your avatar you're a Usual Suspect. When Biffen was playing for us his father Leo, worked for my father and was a game day trainer for the team. I used to go down and annoy him with a thousand questions every time I went to my father's business. He used to give me used MFC training footys. I felt like a millionaire.

Congratulations! I must say your cover of layabout drug user/dealer and general purveyor of misery is very convincing.

Thats interesting 3/4 huh? Ok noted Perhaps Macca, someone will call a racehorse Kohli ! :)

A close friend part-owned a racehorse called Dan Zephyr. I was previously Demon77 and was looking to change my display name early last year. The name Dee Zephyr was suggested to me by another member on here and I thought it was fitting as the horse was going through a long drought of over two years without a win. A week or two after changing my name the horse comes out and wins his last ever race to end the drought. The name stays until the main drought is over.

Yeah I agree with that. Even though his disposal is sometimes deplorable the rest of him makes him an important member of the team

I'm currently spending a few days in the Victorian high country, and arrived at reception at a motel in Mount Beauty wearing a Dees top and cap. The guy behind the counter immediately commented, and said that we have one of the best young footballers in the AFL, Clayton Oliver. He went on to say that he was a former coach of the Echuca under 14s, and he relayed the following story about Clarrie. It seems that the U14s played two 15 minute halves during the half time break in the seniors, and one very wet Saturday afternoon, the squad was one player short. Clarrie, who was 10 at the time, approached the coach and pleaded that he be allowed to make up numbers in the U14s. The coach eventually agreed on the understanding that Clarrie wear a helmet to reduce the risk of copping a serious head knock while playing against much bigger kids. You guessed it, Clarrie went on to play a 'blinder' on a rain sodden ground and kicked 5 goals in half an hour of football against much older kids. The motel man reckons that he knew there and then that Clarrie had what it takes to become a star in the big time. Dazzledavey36 might be able to add some credence to this story. IIRC he has spent some time in and around Echuca.

Probably done before at some stage but here is my dream forward line : Farmer Jakovich Neitz Lyon Schwartz Jurrah Couldn't fit in some greats here, such as Norm Smith and others like Robbo and Darren Bennett and can't yet find a place for current players. Not sure whether Fred Fanning should be on some sort of forward line interchange with others.

Try stopping these guys Lyon Schwartz Jurrah Farmer Jakovich Neitz

Jack Watts. Love a good spooner one!

I see that 'Exhilarates' has come into equal favouritism with 'Dubious' after the barrier draw Wadda ... all falling into place for Godolphin again. My strategy will be to take a box trifecta or box F4 though rather than a straight out bet. With the 2YO's a lot depends on the run of the race, barrier draw and closing speed. Good dividends can be had with the right combo. The horses with good closing speed that have drawn well are Exhilarates (9) & Dubious (7) 'Yes Yes Yes' & 'Hightail' both finish well but they've both drawn the carpark (21 & 19) whilst noted front runner 'Unite & Conquer' has drawn barrier 18. Tough to win from out there at the Gold Coast track. For a bit of value the Hayes horse 'Champagne Boom' is good odds and has drawn barrier 3. And if 1st emergency 'Rome' out of gate 8 gets a run it could give a good sight after nearly running down boom colt and late scratching for the MM Classic 'Sun City' at its last start. 'The Odyssey' (barrier 2) defeated Sun City two starts back so it has claims as well. But the wide barriers can be a real issue at the Gold Coast track as illustrated below - especially for the 2YO's unless they possess real class.

boom boom... I'll see myself out.

Thanks Deeman! I was watching him bat the other day and kept thinking ….. geez he reminds me of somebody. Had me quite perplexed.

Saw him in the Supermarket yesterday. Wearing sneakers without any hint of a big toe problem.

As in a cut from a blade?

I thought you were Agent Orange.

Peedo stiff

If you’re a local member you need to collect it on game day. You’ll see on the back of the card there’s usually a little S symbol which the staff at the tents will use to mark off once you’ve collected it. I think they’re available for collection for about 5 of the first rounds.

Sorry mate but either its an urban myth or you made it up.- 1966 was Alan Poore's (Waverley) second consecutive Liston Trophy, and he became the first player ever to win the award twice. Paul Ladds (Sandringham) was second with 27 votes, and Barry Ion (Yarraville) was third with 26 votes.

Foles is up there too. But agree, every time Luck does something good, they cut to him talking and just.... nothing happens. It actually might have clipped an eagle talon on the way through. Not sure it would have affected it too much. I'm a bit concerned actually. I have Rams as comfortably the better team. Cowboys though, comfortably in better form... and that worked for the Eagles yesterday. My god what a finish. I'm still blown away.

Despite the MFC promises, I still think its a logistical long shot to expect about 30,000 packs to arrive in time for Xmas. Our membership is on the rise and outsourcing is often hand-in-mouth. It's a 1st world problem, kids or adults.

Well it looks red just for a change. Thanks TA.

Barring any injuries VandenBerg is a shoein and is in our best 22 IMO. The kind of player with the big body aggressive and hits hard.

cause for concern?

Paul Amy‏ @PaulAmy375 Mentioned last night that Darcy Fritsch, brother of Bayley, is training with Casey Demons. Former Dandenong Stingray Jack Harmes, brother of James, is also training at Casey. Meanwhile James and Tom Freeman are among the many returning Demons players.

Most recruits are utility types, midfielders and running defenders. Buxton-Wales is a young ruckman from Vermont. Casey will be a running type side. McCaffrey could be a steal. Former Swans academy player (now 21) with 3 years in Country footy. Strong running mid.

Clutching , mate, clutching

Looks a goodin' too does 'Yes Yes Yes' Wadda. 'Exhilerates' has taken the same pathway as 'Sunlight' did last year. In fact, 3 of the past 4 winners of the Magic Millions 2yo classic have won the same sprint race at the Gold Coast one week beforehand. Godolphin & James Cummings in good form too. Race Replay of Exhilerates winning yesterday And I see Inglis have got in on the action with a big day of their own to be held annually on the 2nd Saturday in February at Warwick Farm. Another $2Million race for the 2YO's. As well as that, the Inglis 3YO's race for $1Million in a sprint race on the same day - read more here

I will reveal the meaning on my death bed...

Fact check - Sheedy did not win a Liston Trophy. Actually he was tied to Melbourne & trained with a the Club a few times.

I went to the SCG today and discovered that a failed former Demon has changed sports and is now batting at #3 for Australia.

I would have Harmes breakout season in front of the other 9. I suspect Joel Selwood, Rory Sloane, and Josh Kelly agree with me.

Mine started of when I was rudely called a name by another poster, (started with the letters) 'de"... So I started to think about avatar names and images, and thought I would mispell the word as an Avatar name. And so started off the 'Dee' prefix on Demonland... I was also the author of the "Dees"... back in the mid 90's against the Blues at the 'G'. "Go Dees". Schwarta tore the blues a new hole in that 2nd half, to cut them up.

I like Bugg, and I wish him well at Carlton. He had limitations as a player, but he seemed to run hard (both ways), and always seemed respectful about, and appreciative for, his time at the Dees. He also seemed genuinely remorseful for the incident with Mills. To put the boot into this dude on the way out is tres ordinaire.

Some of my friends (and quite likely some not so friendly observers at matches) seem to believe, for some very strange reason, that I am just a little one eyed about the amazing mighty Demons. And it was not until a while after I registered that it was pointed out, interestingly by an optometrist, that I couldn’t spell?

P.S. since I'm sure you're all interested, this is the full image of that I used for my profile pic. Rodney in full flight and proudly displaying that famous No.14, subsequently proudly worn by a number of other tough high quality backman at the MFC continuing the legacy.

Melbourne atoned for the heartbreak of its frustrating finish to the 2017 season by, at long last, making the finals and then disposed of two highly credentialed and experienced teams in Geelong and Hawthorn before it capitulated meekly to eventual premier West Coast in the Preliminary Final in Perth. The club’s progression has been forward and upward since it finished 2013 with two wins and appointed Paul Roos as coach. The number has increased to four, seven, 10, 12, and now 14 games. The Demons made the finals for the first time in a dozen years and are now tracking for their first premiership in five and a half decades. In the women’s game, the club’s second season of AFLW competition was dogged throughout by inaccuracy in front of goal causing it to again just miss out on grand final honours finishing third after losing 4.7.31 to 5.3.33 to rivals and eventual premiers, the Western Bulldogs in the final round. The Demons were well led by Daisy Pearce and had a star player in Karen Paxman. They will miss their skipper Pearce, who will be out of the forthcoming season on maternity leave - a first for the womens competition. The Demons started their men’s campaign with a win in their section of the novelty AFLX competition, then won their two JLT Community Series games against North Melbourne in Hobart and St Kilda at Casey Fields, the latter in unconvincing fashion after building a big lead early. The opening round AFL match against Geelong resulted in a disappointing loss after a missed shot from Max Gawn in the final thirty seconds ceded a 3 point loss. The club won its next two matches, again unconvincingly although their round 3 win against North Melbourne broke a long run of defeats going back over more than a decade. A poor game against Hawthorn and a final term collapse on Anzac Day Eve against the Tigers had Melbourne down with a 2 - 3 record. The revival began against Essendon and continued over the ensuing weeks as the Demons stretched their winning run to six games culminating with big wins against Carlton and Adelaide at Alice Springs and a solid victory over the Bulldogs. At the halfway mark of the season they were challenging for a top four spot on 8 wins and 3 defeats. The improvement had come from the return of injured pair Tom McDonald and Angus Brayshaw, the dominance of Max Gawn in the ruck and the strong form of Clayton Oliver and the young midfield. Jesse Hogan was consistently in the goals. Jake Lever who had taken a while to get his bearings but was solid during the six game winning spree sustained an ACL injury in round 11 and it took a while for the defence to recover from his loss, regroup and consolidate. In the interim, the experimentation in this area was partly the reason for a poor month that saw a three-game losing streak including a disappointing loss to lowly St. Kilda. Earlier defeats to Collingwood on Queens Birthday and away to Port Adelaide might have been expected but the loss to the Saints hit hard and possibly cost the team the coveted double chance. Melbourne might have lost its star recruit, Lever, in midseason but the club did unearth two young players in Bailey Fritsch and Charlie Spargo who were both drafted in the 30s and established themselves as regulars for much of the year although they understandably ran out of steam a little at the end of the season. The Demons regrouped after the slump. The back line steadied when Sam Frost returned to help the improving Oscar McDonald in a key defensive role but, after returning to the winning list against the Dockers in Darwin and the Bulldogs at the MCG, they suffered some disappointing losses involving an after-the-siren goal to Zach Tuohy in the return game against Geelong and a home upset against Sydney after some shocking inaccuracy in the first quarter and a half kept the Swans in the game. The injuries were mounting and the loss of Hogan at that point in time appeared devastating to a team that had yet to record a win against a top eight side. All that changed dramatically over the next four games starting with the Eagles in Perth and followed with a big win over the Giants that saw Melbourne finish in fifth place with a percentage of 131%. Then followed the emotion of a return to finals football and sound victories against seasoned playoff teams in Geelong and Hawthorn in front of crowds that gave majority support to the perennial underdog buoyed by the return from injury of co-skipper Jack Viney and the emergence at last of young key forward Sam Weideman who more than amply filled Hogan’s shoes. Not for the first time in the modern history of the club, the wall was hit out west. The Demons looked spent in the early moments of their preliminary final in Perth against West Coast and much like last year’s lapse at the final hurdle against Collingwood, this one game is likely to inhabit the players’ collective memory over the summer and into the new season. Many players excelled and grew in 2018 and the depth of the club revealed itself when injuries struck. Max Gawn won the ‘Bluey’ Truscott’ medal and led an emerging midfield including the co-skippers Nathan Jones and Viney, a resurgent Angus Brayshaw (3rd in the Brownlow), Christian Petracca and Christian Salem and the incredibly improved James Harmes who stepped up several levels in the course of a season. The forward line was the best in the competition as many avenues were opened up to goals, breaking down only in that last final. The disappointment of that performance will surely act as a spur for even further improvement in 2019. That improvement is expected to come from a defence bolstered by the recruitment of former Gold Coast skipper Steven May and the expected return of Jake Lever in the first month or so of the season. They join some solid performers in defence including Michael Hibberd and the indefatigable Neville Jetta - a star both on and off the field. The Demons also picked up a handy defender from the Suns in Kade Kolodjashnij and a big ruck back up for All-Australian ruckman Gawn in Braydon Preuss. The club drafted a bevy of youngsters who will all take time to develop at Casey. Melbourne farewelled Jesse Hogan, Dom Tyson and Dean Kent to other clubs via trades and Tom Bugg found a new home through the draft. Former club champion Bernie Vince retired late in the season after a meritorious 100 game career at his second club. Vince will not be entirely lost to the Demons as he has returned to the club in a part-time leadership and ambassadorial role for 2019. The loss that will hurt deeply is that of retiring CEO Peter Jackson who has overseen the six year progression from a team that won only two games in 2013 to become a preliminary finalist in 2018. Gary Pert has stepped into the breach to finish the task of leading the club to the promised land and a premiership.

Surely Natalie Portman is in the conversation if we’re talking about pre season form

Haha. Maybe you and other Luddites can package that up and sell it to the footy department. Who knows, maybe they are predicting improvements in players based on age and games played. I wouldn’t know. Big data and machine learning is being applied everywhere whether you think it works or not. Champion data can never predict injuries, but big European and US teams are measuring every training session and game and have been applying big data and machine learning to non contact injury prevention for several years. They don’t publish much for obvious reasons, but BarcelonaFC recently published 2014 data that showed they can predict 60% of non contact injuries and thus can prevent them. I’m sure that has improved in the last 4 years. They have huge budgets and are way ahead of the AFL. Maybe this is also happening in the AFL. Point that started all of this is despite your opinion and comments on the CD list rating they have no user bias in the analysis of the data at all. It is just data and unbiased processing of it, with all of its limitations ie garbage in garbage out. I personally think it is pretty good in, pretty good out. It’s not perfect. Time to move on.

Holidaying in Surfers' as a young fella (1981?) I was in a beer garden and there was this bloke had his feet up on the chair I wanted to sit on. I pulled the chair out from under his feet as I asked 'can I have this one mate?' and at the same second as I realised it was Mark Jacko Jackson on the end of year footy trip with other Demons. Shat myself but survived.

Stayed in a Deniliquin caravan park in the early 90s for a long weekend. As a one-eyed, young teen, Demon supporter, it was a great thrill seeing Darren Cuthbertson staying in the caravan behind us. Had my Demon footy, and he happily obliged to sign it for me.

Risking outing myself here but Alan Krause is my grandad. Bloody small world!

When I was much younger my uncle took me to see the boys train. Once training was over the great Allen Jakovich stayed behind to work on his goal kicking. He was my favourite player so I was eager to get behind the goals and mark some of his kicks. After I caught 3 or 4 he then invited me to jump over the fence for some kick to kick. It only lasted probably less than 5 min but that was one of the greatest moments of my life, it cemented my love for Jako and the club.

The secret is to dress like a bum, that way the police over there leave you alone because they think you can’t pay them off.