PREGAME: Rd 20 vs GWS

[spirit of norm smith 16,462]

Can’t possibly see Sparrow staying in next week.  I’ve been a supporter but he has lost something this year.  
This week he had too many missed tackles. He was easily too often outmuscled in the contest. Lost so many stoppages and clearances. One clearance from 10 centre square and about 15 stoppages.  Not alone but was clearly not interested or lost any sense for the contest.  His miss in the 3rd quarter… 30 metre out, clear by 10 metre from any opposition. Could have run in and kicked any easy goal. Instead he “chipped” in to the behinds and hardly made the distance.  Compelling that he was lacking any confidence or interest.  

[picket fence 17,170]

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 @DeeSpencer would you?

Yep Fritsch was putrid and is a weak tackler, needs more desperation and needs a spell. BRING IN JEFFO! Time for a bold call Goody

Edited July 22 by picket fence

[Demon Jack 6,911]

16 hours ago, Nicko said:

Who’s Marge??

For context

 

[DemonWA 3,934]

Anyone calling for changes in the forward line needs to realise they weren't the problem. We couldn't get our hands on the ball all day. 

I think we have the let the majority of the guys try to redeem themselves.

I assume Kolt and Salem will be touch and go. If so, Billings and Pup Brown should get a run. Woewodin or Howes as the sub

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,703]

Kynan will show them how to tackle.

[Docs Demons 1,791]

16 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Out. Sparrow  Salem  

in. K. Brown   Gawn 

McVee. May. Petty. 
Bowey Lever AMW

Lingers. JV7. Windsor 

Anb. Tmcd. Pickett 

Fritsch. JVR. Melksham 

Gawn. Oliver. Rivers 

Int. K.Brown Tholstrup Turner Chandler  sub  Billings 

emerg. Hore. Howes. Tomlinson 

Concur here Spirit however I would play Billings. Those that potted him need to have a good hard look at themselves. he got 75 AF points in less than a half of a game. Swap Billings for Chandler IMO. 

[roy11 3,853]

Surprised people are calling for Chandler to be dropped. 
Our forward line wasn't the issue on the weekend and Chandler played a decent enough (not great) game.
2 Goals (=1st for Dees) , 5 Score Involvements (=2nd for Dees), 4 Tackles (=2nd for Dees), 3 tackles inside 50 (1st for Dees) 27 pressure acts (=3rd for Dees), 6th for our meters gained etc. 

[At the break of Gawn 4,460]

Despite the horror show yesterday, I'm bullish we can get the job done against the Giants. They're not going as well as people think. They've lost the last 2 on expected score (Richmond and Suns at Engie) and have been belted on inside 50 differential the last couple of weeks too. They've just been extremely efficient and very accurate which has got them over the line. Given that we've been the best team at restricting teams from scoring per entry and have upped our territory game, plus it's at the MCG, I think we'll win. If we can't roll the Giants at the MCG it's curtains for the season. 

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,736]

13 minutes ago, roy11 said:

Surprised people are calling for Chandler to be dropped. 
Our forward line wasn't the issue on the weekend and Chandler played a decent enough (not great) game.
2 Goals (=1st for Dees) , 5 Score Involvements (=2nd for Dees), 4 Tackles (=2nd for Dees), 3 tackles inside 50 (1st for Dees) 27 pressure acts (=3rd for Dees), 6th for our meters gained etc. 

people just want someone to blame to make themselves feel better

[titan_uranus 25,020]

7 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Despite the horror show yesterday, I'm bullish we can get the job done against the Giants. They're not going as well as people think. They've lost the last 2 on expected score (Richmond and Suns at Engie) and have been belted on inside 50 differential the last couple of weeks too. They've just been extremely efficient and very accurate which has got them over the line. Given that we've been the best team at restricting teams from scoring per entry and have upped our territory game, plus it's at the MCG, I think we'll win. If we can't roll the Giants at the MCG it's curtains for the season. 

I agree. Their last fortnight has been less impressive than the 2-0 result suggests. 

Of course, we have to demonstrate that we can produce quality football against a genuinely good side. We did this for 2.5 quarters against Brisbane but unless you rate Essendon (I don’t), we haven’t really done so since the Carlton loss in Round 9, and not for long enough to win since the week prior vs Geelong. 

[Demons11 7,027]

4 hours ago, Ungarieboy said:

Teams are starting to expose Boweys lack of height in the backs, but against GWS this shouldnt be a problen - so he gets a reprieve. What GWS had is speed and in form Hogan.  Salem should play in the midfield or be given a rest. We have to tag Tom Green (note they ate not a high inside 50 team, so restricting Green is a must).

On a brighter side, they wouldn't have a clue who Bedford should go and tag!!!!!

Get Howe in for Bowey! 

[Young Angus 798]

Jeffo probably not ready but bring him in anyway, let him have a crack, what's the harm really.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,842]

1 hour ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Despite the horror show yesterday, I'm bullish we can get the job done against the Giants. They're not going as well as people think. They've lost the last 2 on expected score (Richmond and Suns at Engie) and have been belted on inside 50 differential the last couple of weeks too. They've just been extremely efficient and very accurate which has got them over the line. Given that we've been the best team at restricting teams from scoring per entry and have upped our territory game, plus it's at the MCG, I think we'll win. If we can't roll the Giants at the MCG it's curtains for the season. 

Whilst not as confident as you, you're not wrong about GWS's efficiency and accuracy.

The last 4 weeks they've kicked 61.25 or 71% accuracy which is so far above AFL average it's not funny. It's also unsustainable if they think they can win a prelim or grand final by relying on accuracy and less scoring shots. They could well be accurate again this week, but the tide will eventually turn for them.

Re: Billings, he deserves to stay in the side this week. The problem is he's failed to play 2 good games in a row all year and can't be expected to help much on Saturday night.

 

 

 

 

[Doug Reemer 1,197]

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

Get Howe in for Bowey! 

Unfortunately Bowey is one of Goodwin’s untouchables just like Sparrow.

I thought Bowey was better this week. Sparrow is just getting caught in no man’s land too often.

He could use a week at Casey to fill his boots as the main man and get some Confidence back, but Goodwin must not rate the standard of the VFL at all. Refuses to bring anyone back through it who he sees as starting 18.

[forever demons 2,220]

19 hours ago, Nicko said:

Who’s Marge??

simos

[Sydee 4,444]

15 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Yes, I watched the second half of the vfl game. The conditions didn't suit Jefferson at all, the ground was barely playable, but he's had a decent previous month.

I don't believe selecting him will fix us, nor that blooding him is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Of course, we don't know the inner workings of selection committee, but he must be close. In fact someone on here quoted Choco as saying he's close. Picket Fence spoke with Jeffo at the G a couple of weeks ago and his spirits were very high.

There's 5 games to go before finals. Our chances of playing beyond that are borderline at best. Top 4 is now a pipedream.

Jefferson's time is soon, I hope they give him a go.

Give him a taste when he either 

a) plays a really good game at VFL level or, 

b) when we can no longer make top 8 

imo b) is the more likely of those two options atm 

[Roost it far 8,278]

2 hours ago, roy11 said:

Surprised people are calling for Chandler to be dropped. 
Our forward line wasn't the issue on the weekend and Chandler played a decent enough (not great) game.
2 Goals (=1st for Dees) , 5 Score Involvements (=2nd for Dees), 4 Tackles (=2nd for Dees), 3 tackles inside 50 (1st for Dees) 27 pressure acts (=3rd for Dees), 6th for our meters gained etc. 

It's easier to just blame him and continue to call for him to be dropped.............

[whatwhat say what 22,771]

we're every chance to win against gw$

the competition is crazy even

[DubDee 25,886]

Bowey hasn’t been in great form but i thought he was better yesterday. 

Sparrow on the chopping block

Billings was good so should stay in

Salem and Turner should be looked at if good options to come in

Brown should come in

[Little Richard 6,262]

Surely Sparrow has earned himself a stint at Casey but there are probably others that need to go before him.

I think Bowey did enough to keep his spot, he was pretty decent in patches. However, Howes and Hore are both viable options to replace him or Salem if need be. Salem looked off it again, maybe another niggle. Kolt probably needs a rest. Billings was okay.

As much as I would love to see Jeffo get a few games this year we're still in the hunt (though it doesn't feel like it), so we need to give ourselves the best shot possible at winning this week.

OUT: Kolt, Salem/Sparrow

IN: Brown, Howes/Hore

Edited July 22 by Little Richard

[D Rev 629]

5 hours ago, picket fence said:

Yep Fritsch was putrid and is a weak tackler, needs more desperation and needs a spell. BRING IN JEFFO! Time for a bold call Goody

Fritta has been up and down this season, but has still kicked 35 goals - I wouldn't swap that for a young bloke that has done OK in the magoos.

Likely Gawn will be back this week, so that will let us play JVR up fwd more.  That will certainly help our midfield and forward line.

Every game is a final from now on & we need our best team in.  I really dont think Jeffo is better than Fritta at this point in time.

 

[Fat Tony 5,231]

I expect Salem to miss due to his hamstring. I think Howes coming in as his replacement makes sense.

I am not sure who goes out for Gawn? Possibly Melksham or Tholstrup plays as the sub.

Kynan Brown was best for Casey and could come in.

I expect we will beat GWS. The Suns were actually +20 on X Score last match and the Tigers +5 on X Score the week before.

[SthSea22 618]

Is it worth playing Fritsch on the HB line?

McAdam/Jefferson in?

[D Rev 629]

2 minutes ago, Little Richard said:

Surely Sparrow has earned himself a stint at Casey but there are probably others that need to go before him.

I think Bowey did enough to keep his spot, he was pretty decent in patches. However, Howes and Hore are both viable options to replace him or Salem if need be. Salem looked off it again, maybe another niggle. Kolt probably needs a rest. Billings was okay.

As much as I would love to see Jeffo get a few games this year we're still in the hunt (though it doesn't feel like it), so we need to give ourselves the best shot possible at winning this week.

OUT: Kolt, Salem/Sparrow

IN: Brown, Howes/Hore

For everyone that is saying we need to drop x or y, you need to consider who we have to come in.  We don't have a lot at Casey that are better options that who is playing.  Billings had one of his best games for us after a long spell in the 2s and not playing a full game. 

Howes for and injured Salem is probably the only viable change, aside from Max coming in for just about anyone.

[Little Richard 6,262]

28 minutes ago, D Rev said:

For everyone that is saying we need to drop x or y, you need to consider who we have to come in.  We don't have a lot at Casey that are better options that who is playing.  Billings had one of his best games for us after a long spell in the 2s and not playing a full game. 

Howes for and injured Salem is probably the only viable change, aside from Max coming in for just about anyone.

Brown in should be a lock, he's earned a game and at the moment looks like he'll offer more than Kolt and a couple of others.