5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Seriously, the footage which was shown had his finger clearly bent as the ball skimmed passed.

The ball was on the other side of his hand, see my screenshot.

We started slow again this week. We were lucky not to be 4 goals down at quarter time. Fought back well but start like that next week against the hawks and we’ll be in trouble.

Good game. Excellent primer.

Don’t know about the touched call at the end but we can’t have too many complaints about that one. I didn’t feel like we had any periods of momentum through the first three quarters yet we still managed to just do enough to keep in touch on the scoreboard. When we did in the last 15 minutes we didn’t make enough of our opportunities. Oh well, I guess we were due to lose a close one against them sooner or later. 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 12, 20231 yr by david_neitz_is_my_dad

It 100% wasn’t touched. The angle which looks like his hand touches it is misleading because when you match it up with the side-on angle, the ball is past his hand. 

He didn’t touch it.

It’s eminently arguable we’ve lost a game due to an egregious ARC error. 

It’s also eminently arguable that we lost because we weren’t good enough for long enough. Smashed at stoppages by a side missing three starting mids. 5 goals from 31 inside 50s in the second half. A number of complete passengers.

It’s an easy conclusion to make after one game (and a loss to boot) but I don’t think Grundy forward is going to win us the flag. It just didn’t look right. 

5 minutes ago, Webber said:

Agreed. It’s not their fault. What we should be doing is jumping up and down about the standard of all AFL umpiring full stop. It’s the AFL that fails the umpires and us all. No other professional sport is so consistently embarrassed by its adjudicating. 

And by adding a fourth they have further depleted / diluted the talent pool from whence they select them.

9 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Good side Carlton. Was surprised with the cockiness of some on here during the week that we'd win easily.

They were missing Cerra Walsh McGovern which is impressive in itself. They'll do some damage come September. They're a genuine top 4 contender in my eyes.

I think we'll be fine. There is some positives to take out of this game imo and I think a loss like this actually keeps us back on edge. 

On the negatives.

Grundy forward experiment is officially done. It simply doesn't work and we're playing a man down when he's down there. Slow, unfit and brought in off the back off poor form at VFL level. Goody has done a lot right in the last month, but he made a mistake bringing him in tonight.

This could mean we may have to rush Tom McDonald in next week..

I love Petracca, but his last quarter efforts in the opening 5 minutes on Cripps was seriously lazy. Allowed him to Waltz out of stoppage far too easily and create score involvements for the first 2 goals that they kicked. He simply had to just lock him down harder and not allow him easy space.

Our forward line was lacking big time. It's time to keep Joel Smith permanently there because the Petty out was significant tonight.

No more James Jordon thanks. 

Brayshaw was absolutely huge for us! BOG by a mile in my books. Keep him in there for the rest of the year.

All in all, disappointing to lose, but definitely not losing the faith. Win the next 2 and we can set ourselves up well come September. 

Sorry Tmac would have been just as bad as Gundy up forward he is cooked, Grundy was better than Max in the ruck in the last quarter.

 

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Get some glasses bro

You just believe your own BS and have so much contempt for everybody else

Try going to a game sometime [censored]

Now I am worried about Hawthorn next week.

1 minute ago, layzie said:

Who [censored] cares? If it's the wrong call it's not a score review issue it's a goal umpire issue. He called touched, there was insufficient evidence, meaning evidence needs to be sufficient and it wasn't. Screw what the memers on Twitter think, they are chumps.

We lost it because we weren't good enough when it mattered. That's it.

Exactly.  

Plenty of examples why we lost. Demonland will only choose one instance to whinge about and justify why we lost.

You can also pick a lot of positives out of this game which would say that we're still on the right track. 

Some tinkering still. Get the selections right and readjust our forward line again and we'll be fine.

Just now, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

https://twitter.com/laceoutofficial/status/1690342123277864960

What the actual [censored]?

This stuff about the umpires etc. etc. and was the ball touched or not is stupid. Face the facts, the Blues were better than us tonight for most of the game. We had that many passengers and again it was a few that kept us in it. Salem has lost his power in kicking. Once upon a time he would hit up a team mate 50 yards away with a low hard bullet. Now he has trouble kicking further than Spargo. Max got worked over and again we had no forwards. JVR was just a player along with Melk and most of them. When teams pressure us we fold like babies. The Blues were to good and we have plenty of work to go to be viable in the finals.

1 minute ago, Wadda We Sing said:

You just believe your own BS and have so much contempt for everybody else

Try going to a game sometime [censored]

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Get some glasses bro

dazzle, seriously, there’s ample evidence on here already to make a nonsense of your ‘finger moving’ theory. His hand was nowhere near it. Fact. Give it up, man, it’s ok. 

Sparrow trying to waltz through Newman and getting pinged was embarrassing 

Edited August 12, 20231 yr by CarnTheDees

42 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

I have major issues with Salem running into an open goal, unpressured, and not making the distance from about 42 metres. I just don't get it. Furious with that.

His kicking was off all game

Overseas AtM what was Grundy output? Not bagging him but see no goals so just want work we need a competitor & with Petty who’s left T Mac, can’t fit them all in, just can’t see Grundy playing finals 

Can't play open all the time, there are times we need to dump it in. I'm not convinced we can play that game if we need to. Hope to be proven wrong but the loss of Petty could well be the difference.

On the plus side Oliver is only going to be better for the run.

 

12 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Marchbank claimed immediately he had touched it. 

Seriously, the footage which was shown had his finger clearly bent as the ball skimmed passed.

Some of you seriously need glasses.

It's not why we lost t all. We had other opportunities to win the game.

There's no way that was clearly touched ....if anything it showed he clearly missed by inches with the attempted raised hand

Not sure what you were watching Dazzle.  The review was one of the most amature reviews and we're supposed to be watching the game being played at the home of footy!!

Where was the ball ovrer the line / or not side on view!!??  Never showed it.

Joke fest!

Edited August 12, 20231 yr by Demon Dynasty

Just now, Roger Mellie said:

His kicking was off all game

Salem's kicking has been off for quite a few weeks.

15 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

They wanted it more for longer, Goody's rotations and forward set up wasn't right. Sorry Grundy isn't in our best team

Trade Grundy 

I couldn’t tell if the Petracca kick was touched or not but when Cripps was asked after the game he said with a half sheepish smile they got lucky