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There were games early in the season when it was amazing the  Doggies got close to winning with Lobb in their team. He was beyond dreadful.  Having said that, his back half of the season was passable once his fitness was AFL standard.  On a positive note, he would definitely unite Demonland at least once a month as the match day whipping boy. 

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1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

I'm all for McKay it will allow Petty to go back.

B: McVee, May, Lever

HB: Rivers, Petty, Bowey

C: Langdon, Oliver, Hunter

HF: Petracca, van Rooyen, Neal-Bullen

F: Fritsch, McKay, Pickett

FOLL: Gawn, Brayshaw, Viney

IC: Salem, Sparrow, McAdam, J.Smith

SUB: Chandler

Our time is now get it done dees

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Don't know why people think McKay would cost multiple high first rounders. He is paid $1 million per year, but Carlton play just as well when he is missing, with Curnow as the clear #1 man, DeKoning playing forward ruck, and Pittonet as a pure ruck. That million a year of salary could be used to make significant improvements to their team in other positions. When Collingwood got rid of Brodie Grundy, at the time a 28 year old two time all australian, they only received pick 27 and they agreed to pay $1.5 million of salary for him. 

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15 minutes ago, Greendale said:

Don't know why people think McKay would cost multiple high first rounders. He is paid $1 million per year, but Carlton play just as well when he is missing, with Curnow as the clear #1 man, DeKoning playing forward ruck, and Pittonet as a pure ruck. That million a year of salary could be used to make significant improvements to their team in other positions. When Collingwood got rid of Brodie Grundy, at the time a 28 year old two time all australian, they only received pick 27 and they agreed to pay $1.5 million of salary for him. 

Yep, and I reckon the Carlton FD and MC worked out in the second half of 2023 that they played better without him and with the speed of the modern game, found he was a bit of a liability if he wasn't kicking goals and taking marks.

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8 minutes ago, Greendale said:

Don't know why people think McKay would cost multiple high first rounders. He is paid $1 million per year, but Carlton play just as well when he is missing, with Curnow as the clear #1 man, DeKoning playing forward ruck, and Pittonet as a pure ruck. That million a year of salary could be used to make significant improvements to their team in other positions. When Collingwood got rid of Brodie Grundy, at the time a 28 year old two time all australian, they only received pick 27 and they agreed to pay $1.5 million of salary for him. 

Carlton definitely play better with Harry in the side. He provides a great marking option on the wing, decent field kicking and will run,  chase and tackle quite well for a big guy, he adds alot to the side even without many goals. It is just now with Tom De Koning finally showing signs of stepping up a notch recently (and Jack Silvahni re-signing) that Harry may possibly be dangled as trade bait?? 🤔

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19 minutes ago, Greendale said:

Don't know why people think McKay would cost multiple high first rounders. He is paid $1 million per year, but Carlton play just as well when he is missing, with Curnow as the clear #1 man, DeKoning playing forward ruck, and Pittonet as a pure ruck. That million a year of salary could be used to make significant improvements to their team in other positions. When Collingwood got rid of Brodie Grundy, at the time a 28 year old two time all australian, they only received pick 27 and they agreed to pay $1.5 million of salary for him. 

Grundy was overpaid for what he was - a decent starting ruck but no longer a game changer. The Pies had 2 decent rucks and needed to get the Grundy cash off the books.

Harry McKay is still a 1 million dollar a year forward IMO, purely because of the scarcity of the position.

Carlton are rumoured to be fairly tight to the cap but no one is saying they need a firesale to remove a bunch of cap space. I still think they're better with the 2 key forwards but even if they aren't it's a good problem to have and they surely wouldn't be desperate to make a move for less than the full price for a very talented key forward in his prime.

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Overpaying for a key forward like McKay is not what I'd like or expect the club to pursue. 

What I have heard from a couple of people including a family member who works in the media is the Tom Lynch one whisper that won't go away. We're interested. 

And that makes most sense given his age, the transition period that Richmond are in and our window with May and Gawn. 

We wouldn't have to pay overs and we'd still have plenty of picks to work with both to trade or hot the draft. 

 

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5 hours ago, Greendale said:

Don't know why people think McKay would cost multiple high first rounders. He is paid $1 million per year, but Carlton play just as well when he is missing, with Curnow as the clear #1 man, DeKoning playing forward ruck, and Pittonet as a pure ruck. That million a year of salary could be used to make significant improvements to their team in other positions. When Collingwood got rid of Brodie Grundy, at the time a 28 year old two time all australian, they only received pick 27 and they agreed to pay $1.5 million of salary for him. 

Not every trade is the same GD.

Carlton are not in a clearing salary dump like Pies and McKay is in his prime age 25 with 5/7 years to play. 
He also has recent form ( and potential to improve still). Brody had not played for 12 months virtually.and is 29 with maybe 3/4 years at most. 

First rounder plus second ( or both futures) would be best case scenario and 3rd/4th back possibly. 

The feeling is that Harry has much room for improvement in his game awareness and potential to be a 60 goal plus a season forward added to Petty JVR Fritta Trac Kossie McAdam ANB and Jefferson. Just imagine him tip the scales for us to swallow the four and 2 point losses with Harry parading the MCG!

Makes me think 2 first rounders is more the go with the token 3:4 draft pick in return.

Where do other D/Lers sit on this one presuming you are for this mega trade which might rescue the crucial life of a still to be ( potential) dynasty?

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5 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Grundy was overpaid for what he was - a decent starting ruck but no longer a game changer. The Pies had 2 decent rucks and needed to get the Grundy cash off the books.

Harry McKay is still a 1 million dollar a year forward IMO, purely because of the scarcity of the position.

Carlton are rumoured to be fairly tight to the cap but no one is saying they need a firesale to remove a bunch of cap space. I still think they're better with the 2 key forwards but even if they aren't it's a good problem to have and they surely wouldn't be desperate to make a move for less than the full price for a very talented key forward in his prime.

See my take below on the same issue of Harry's price compared to Brody's. 

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Bizarre decision by the doggies to trade in Lobb last year. He's been poor and played some genuinely pathetic games for them. Not surprised they are trying to offload him. 

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11 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I'm 50/50 on this.

Im a bit 45/55  ...  or is that 55/45..

Tbh im a bit 6s and 7s 

Must've been something  i 8

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6 minutes ago, Nudge said:

Hate to say I told you all so.. but nah, I just make Things up — Something was brewing and it looks like it’s about to become public knowledge 

Any indications of who the player is or when news might surface?

 

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15 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

I love that the sun’s ‘journalists’ just make up trades and it gets called ‘news’

I especially like it when journo's quote each other as 'sources'.  I reckon there would be merit in a blog that scrutinises AFL journo's, kind of like the media watch program.

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2 hours ago, DubDee said:

Rory Lobb will be 31 by round 1

hes not great but we’d get him for a slab of CC and Dry

I'd rather keep T-Mac. Reportedly his body is feeling good again and when fit and in form he is a very good player. We already have Schache for depth so I don't see why we would want to bring in Lobb.

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29 minutes ago, chookrat said:

I'd rather keep T-Mac. Reportedly his body is feeling good again and when fit and in form he is a very good player. We already have Schache for depth so I don't see why we would want to bring in Lobb.

Mr Chook..   im a bit if a Tmac convert.   Thought he should have been considered more often for games ( and perhaps was )

Alas..  he's cooked.  His greatest asset imho was his tank and ability to get to contests in a timely / effective manner ....but he's lost a yard.  He's sorta a nearly there version of his prior self. Ok for magoos...gets found out at the top level. A marvellous servant of our club...   but the bell looms i reckon.

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1 hour ago, Nudge said:

Hate to say I told you all so.. but nah, I just make Things up — Something was brewing and it looks like it’s about to become public knowledge 

Spill the tea, then!

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5 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

Overpaying for a key forward like McKay is not what I'd like or expect the club to pursue. 

What I have heard from a couple of people including a family member who works in the media is the Tom Lynch one whisper that won't go away. We're interested. 

And that makes most sense given his age, the transition period that Richmond are in and our window with May and Gawn. 

We wouldn't have to pay overs and we'd still have plenty of picks to work with both to trade or hot the draft. 

 

A big yes for mine vs McKay provided he passes the durability test

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52 minutes ago, chookrat said:

I'd rather keep T-Mac. Reportedly his body is feeling good again and when fit and in form he is a very good player. We already have Schache for depth so I don't see why we would want to bring in Lobb.

If the finals version is his ‘feeling good’, I’d hate to see what he looks like with a knock or some soreness.

I’m starting to think McKay, at a high cost, is better than Lynch for a desperate Premiership attempt. I’d rather invest long term and let him grow with our group post Max, May etc

He can hit the wings and the neat goal kicking of Petty & JVR can stay closer to goal. Traditional CHF role.

 

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