JimmyGadson 3,455 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 Do we have the pieces?! We won the thing 13 months ago! How's the Sun going these days.. 2 3 Quote
DeeZone 10,606 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 We still have two newbies to come plus possible 3 extra Rookies not to mention the continual improvement of our list fitness and health wise plus our younger brigade. Yes we are Firmly in the Window.!! Quote
NoFap 6 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 No. Window closed . Main rivals have been strengthened this trade period. We have a stubborn coach who won’t change game plan. We have played the trade period poorly . still no key fwd. traded cabbage for lettuce 2 2 2 Quote
DubDee 26,795 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 Clarry and Trac in their prime = flag tilt Rest up boys and get your bodies right for 2023 2 Quote
kallangurdemon 551 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 We have probably improved the list slightly .However our issue last year was the forward line especially the 2 key forward positions and that remains unsolved .The only clear change is Schace for Weideman which is underwhelming .A lot of pressure is now unfairly on JVR but if he doesnt come on it is difficult to see a premiership in 2023. 1 1 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,578 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 Clearly judging by the Herald Sun photo, the 4 boys the will lead us back to the promise land are: Fritsch, Kozzie, Grundy and.........Oscar Baker. 1 11 Quote
SPC 3,596 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 I would say absolutely yes…. But… As we know premierships require a lot of things to click and fit players is one. Do we have the depth, I’d argue we run a bit thinner than some. We certainly don’t expose enough depth players to see if they meet the standard, this will need to change. Port, Bulldogs, Tigers, Brisbane will all improve next year. We need some growth from below to feature on the last game in September. 2 Quote
BW511 2,730 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 Our improvement will come from having available players. If T-Mac can play 75% of the year, particularly in the back half, we should be primed for a tilt. 2021 was a charmed run with injury, 2022 was a horror show. If we are somewhere inbetween we are top 4 at a minimum 6 Quote
NoFap 6 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, BW511 said: Our improvement will come from having available players. If T-Mac can play 75% of the year, particularly in the back half, we should be primed for a tilt. 2021 was a charmed run with injury, 2022 was a horror show. If we are somewhere inbetween we are top 4 at a minimum We will bounce around top 6 for the next 3 seasons . 1 Quote
old dee 24,093 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 Kick straight and we are home. 4 Quote
Redjacket 760 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 Absolutely we do however we need a bit of luck and manage injuries a little bit better. A tweak in the game plan so as not to be too predictable will go a long way to breaking the 1 year premiership drought. 3 Quote
tiers 2,883 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 Yes. The key is injuries that hurt us badly in 2022. Even when stricken at the end of the year we were still able to lead in most games but could not persist and prevail. Even a 50% improvement in injuries will put us at the top of the heap. As for changes - Schache at least played some games (and was selected in their top 22 for the GF) whereas Weid played very few and was never in the top 22; if Hunter plays to his potential it will free up Angus for other roles (midfield or HB); Grundy is a better ruckman than dogga, 10cm taller, can take marks in the forward line and will have his mind on impressing the coach, not going home. All systems go. GO DEES 3 Quote
david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,084 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 The pieces arent a worry however what we got in is better than what left 2 Quote
djr 1,605 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 54 minutes ago, NoFap said: No. Window closed . Main rivals have been strengthened this trade period. We have a stubborn coach who won’t change game plan. We have played the trade period poorly . still no key fwd. traded cabbage for lettuce Another troll? 5 1 Quote
Engorged Onion 10,226 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 59 minutes ago, NoFap said: No. Window closed . Main rivals have been strengthened this trade period. We have a stubborn coach who won’t change game plan. We have played the trade period poorly . still no key fwd. traded cabbage for lettuce Welcome! You seem to have a very low 'posting content' to 'username' correlation... Edited October 13, 2022 by Engorged Onion 2 1 Quote
durango 2,024 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) I have always said that a club needs your top 15 players provided they are in the best 150 players in the AFL to play nearly all of the matches and with a bit of luck you can be premiers. The quality of the bottom 7 players make the team better so they need to improve. I look at the list and it has recruited 2 quality players who if they perform at their best we can be Grand Finalists. The 8 teams who look to be in the GF mix are Geelong, Brisbane, Richmond, Collingwood, Swans, Fremantle, Carlton and Melbourne. Injuries will play a big part in the end. Of the 8 teams Swans, Carlton and Fremantle have not improved their lists as much as the other 5. The outsiders like Western Bulldogs and Port Adelaide need more luck with injuries due to their depth not being as good as the other 8. Edited October 13, 2022 by durango 2 Quote
wheaters31 687 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 Ummmmm Gary Buckenara had a few interesting takes........ He rated Oscar Baker as a B grade player amongst players such as Grundy, Langdon, Pickett and Fritsch He also says that he expected us to offload some players for salary cap relief to bring Grundy in, and suggested Ed Langdon as one of the players we could/should have offloaded. Wow. 1 1 Quote
rufus 1,162 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 Personal opinion is that it's the talent of your top 6 that dictates whether or not you CAN win it, and then the buy in and application to the process/roles of the whole group that dictates your chances of actually getting it done. That's why player movement outside the top few players at each club is much of a muchness for this sport IMO. We have the talent, but we absolutely didn't stick to the discipline that took us all the way 12 months ago. Geelong played our 2021 style while we veered away from it (they applied huge pressure around the contest, we didn't. They worked hard to shut down ANY outlet from marks/free kicks for the oppo trying to move out of their half, while we let them advance too easily). Gee it would have been a great GF had we brought our intensity from 2021 to the Cats of 2022. If we get back to it next year, we are a chance to have a crack at another GF. 2 Quote
John Crow Batty 8,895 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 Ditch that Selwyn/Burgess fitness regime and we will be there. Flogging a horse to run hard only works for so long. No wonder Burgess only hangs around for a couple of seasons before moving on. He doesn’t want to be around when everything collapses. Like when Lyon coached the Dockers and Saints. Performed like a powerhouse for a couple of seasons before flaming out due to the players being pushed over the limit. He was unlucky not to get a flag like Goodwin did but we cant repeat the debacle of our second half of the season in 2023. We won’t build a dynasty with broken bodies. The penny dropped for Geelong and so should it for us. 2 Quote
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