Not a thread about tyres.

Lots of doom and gloom on here but personally I think our season was far from a waste or a disgrace. 

Backing up from a flag to win 10 on the trott at the front end (when people were hoping we'd be drunk on bathwater) and then to finish 2nd is a very decent result. Clarry winning gongs for fun, and the AA side littered with Dees. VFL side as dominant as any that I can recall. 

If we had had a season like the doggies or tigers I would be carrying on like alot of the hand wringers on here. Flags don't grow on trees and you don't get a armchair ride to a dynasty just beacuse youn win one- some fair weather supporters need to realise this and get behind the boys for next year. 

Edited September 11, 20222 yr by DemonWA
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  On 11/09/2022 at 23:10, DemonWA said:

Not a thread about tyres.

Lots of doom and gloom on here but personally I think our season was far from a waste or a disgrace. 

Backing up from a flag to win 10 on the trott at the front end (when people were hoping we'd be drunk on bathwater) and then to finish 2nd is a very decent result. Clarry winning gongs for fun, and the AA side littered with Dees. VFL side as dominant as any that I can recall. 

If we had had a season like the doggies or tigers I would be carrying on like alot of the hand wringers on here. Flags don't grow on trees and you don't get a armchair ride to a dynasty just beacuse youn win one- some fair weather supporters need to realise this and get behind the boys for next year. 

You're right DemonWA, it was a good year. It doesn't feel like it right now nor does it feel like a pass mark but we finally have a football team that is in games consistently and never blown out.  It would have been a pretty Melbourne thing of the past to fall off a cliff and finish outside the 8 but in the long run we are on track.

We'll be back next year. Will we win it? No idea. As long as we do everything we can to give ourselves the best possible shot then that is literally all we can ask. 

I don't think losing 2 home finals to interstate teams can be spun as a good year. More like a great opportunity lost. 

  On 11/09/2022 at 23:26, layzie said:

You're right DemonWA, it was a good year. It doesn't feel like it right now nor does it feel like a pass mark but we finally have a football team that is in games consistently and never blown out.  It would have been a pretty Melbourne thing of the past to fall off a cliff and finish outside the 8 but in the long run we are on track.

We'll be back next year. Will we win it? No idea. As long as we do everything we can to give ourselves the best possible shot then that is literally all we can ask. 

I agree Layzie.

Proven foundations are in place for sustained finals now. Others years I would never have been confident e.g. the 98...2000..2002 etc run. In and out of the fianls in odd years. Ridiculous flakiness then. Not now with the team leaders and champions in place. 

Improve fitness, strategy, lower injuries - things we all saw during the year -  and looking forward to 2023 for another tilt.

From best3rd 1/4 team last year to close to worst in 12 months is a key worry, but can be fixed.  Huge upside in new blood to come in.

I agree, missed opportunity

  On 11/09/2022 at 23:10, DemonWA said:

Not a thread about tyres.

Lots of doom and gloom on here but personally I think our season was far from a waste or a disgrace. 

Backing up from a flag to win 10 on the trott at the front end (when people were hoping we'd be drunk on bathwater) and then to finish 2nd is a very decent result. Clarry winning gongs for fun, and the AA side littered with Dees. VFL side as dominant as any that I can recall. 

If we had had a season like the doggies or tigers I would be carrying on like alot of the hand wringers on here. Flags don't grow on trees and you don't get a armchair ride to a dynasty just beacuse youn win one- some fair weather supporters need to realise this and get behind the boys for next year. 

Don't worry I'm sure we'll all be back next year. But to call people "on here" hand wringers and fair weather supporters is ridiculous considering the obvious issues with the team and the disappointing coaching efforts to try and address those issues. 

To win 6 of our last 14 games for the year is disappointing.

  On 11/09/2022 at 23:10, DemonWA said:

Not a thread about tyres.

Lots of doom and gloom on here but personally I think our season was far from a waste or a disgrace. 

Backing up from a flag to win 10 on the trott at the front end (when people were hoping we'd be drunk on bathwater) and then to finish 2nd is a very decent result. Clarry winning gongs for fun, and the AA side littered with Dees. VFL side as dominant as any that I can recall. 

If we had had a season like the doggies or tigers I would be carrying on like alot of the hand wringers on here. Flags don't grow on trees and you don't get a armchair ride to a dynasty just beacuse youn win one- some fair weather supporters need to realise this and get behind the boys for next year. 

It will always feel like an opportunity lost, but looking back through history, there are many far worse premiership defenses than what we put up.  Lots of teams who have won one then missed the 8 entirely.  And for a team with a 5 decade history of flakiness and failure, finishing 2nd really did buck the tend.

What's impotaant now though is how the club responds.  The competetion has risen to our threat of a dynasty and has made it clear we will have to earn it.  It is now up to the brains trust within the club to interpret the mountain of information and data that none of us are privvy to, to find out what went wrong and to begin to address the areas we need to improve in to take what is still on offer; a period of on-field success than many of us perhaps gave up dreaming about.

Yes a missed opportunity that has left us all saddened and frustrated But we were in every game and during those last two games everyone at the game knew that we had to make every post a winner. Yet still we all knew that we were lacking that big gun forward who could take a mark and kick those critical goals. You could feel the desperation of the crowd knowing that we were frittering away our opportunities and letting easy goals dribble through at the other end because we never had anyone back in the deep 50. Angry yes, frustrated yes but despondent No. As mentioned above there is not much that needs fixing, some new faces a modified game plan and a couple of good forwards running around in our forward 50 will be the difference and we already have two running around at Casey. Looking forward to 2023.!!!!!!

Edited September 12, 20222 yr by DeeZone
Correcting spell checker. Lol!!!

Did we not finish 5th?

  On 12/09/2022 at 00:13, The heart beats true said:

Did we not finish 5th?

Surely you could figure out on your own that the poster meant after the H&A season?

The first thing I thought of was that you had a good deal. Pity I need some new ones soon.

  On 12/09/2022 at 02:23, old dee said:

The first thing I thought of was that you had a good deal. Pity I need some new ones soon.

Did you see the article about your mate Jamie Bennell on the club website the other day mate?!

  On 12/09/2022 at 01:55, Vipercrunch said:

Surely you could figure out on your own that the poster meant after the H&A season?

Not to come across all @Demonstone but ‘finished’ means completed, or ended.

We didn’t ‘finish’ second. We finished 5th. I’m all about optimism, but facts are important. 👍

One day I'll rate it above about 90% of the other seasons in my lifetime. For now it feels like a massive waste.

We had some good wins, but it's hard to classify it as a good year overall.

 

This to me felt like watching Law Abiding Citizen all over again. Enjoyable until a [censored] ending. 

  On 11/09/2022 at 23:45, deespicable me said:

Don't worry I'm sure we'll all be back next year. But to call people "on here" hand wringers and fair weather supporters is ridiculous considering the obvious issues with the team and the disappointing coaching efforts to try and address those issues. 

To win 6 of our last 14 games for the year is disappointing.

Wow 6 and 8 last 14 puts it into context.  That's missing the 8 kind of record.

2018 was objectively a better season.

huge waste. like throwing a cooked roast straight in the bin. 

I never expected to go back to back but I did expect to make at least a Prelim and win at least one final.

Yes finishing 2nd on the ladder and 5th overall isn’t a disastrous season but right now it just leaves me feeling empty.

  On 11/09/2022 at 23:28, chook fowler said:

I don't think losing 2 home finals to interstate teams can be spun as a good year. More like a great opportunity lost. 

The two are not incompatible.  I believe we had an opportunity lost AND a good year.

  On 11/09/2022 at 23:10, DemonWA said:

Not a thread about tyres.

Lots of doom and gloom on here but personally I think our season was far from a waste or a disgrace. 

Backing up from a flag to win 10 on the trott at the front end (when people were hoping we'd be drunk on bathwater) and then to finish 2nd is a very decent result. Clarry winning gongs for fun, and the AA side littered with Dees. VFL side as dominant as any that I can recall. 

If we had had a season like the doggies or tigers I would be carrying on like alot of the hand wringers on here. Flags don't grow on trees and you don't get a armchair ride to a dynasty just beacuse youn win one- some fair weather supporters need to realise this and get behind the boys for next year. 

We blew a massive opportunity on our Home Ground. That’s not a good year. 
i just hope the Football Department feel the same way

  On 12/09/2022 at 04:30, Bates Mate said:

Wow 6 and 8 last 14 puts it into context.  That's missing the 8 kind of record.

Just for context 12 of those 14 were against teams in the 8, and an incredible 10 of those 14 games were against the other top 5 teams. Brisbane x 3, Sydney, Freo and Collingwood x 2, Geelong x 1.

I doubt that’s ever happened, or will ever happen again.

Not a good year for me

Start 10-0 and finish 16-8

1 debutant

Out in straight sets 

I’m not a doom and gloom type and there are reasons for how it ended, but to me Preliminary final after 10-0 is a pass mark and we failed to achieve that

Our season very much mirrored Eagles 2007 season 

It was a good year by 2019 standards. 

It was a pretty poor year for the club.

One of the club's KPIs is to win at least one final in the AFL and AFLW. Just because you won a flag one year doesn't mean you get a pass the following year. 

Consistently beaten on our home turf against fellow contenders.

Refused to give strong young talent a chance in the AFL.

My mate commented today that it seemed like Goodwin and co were resigned to the fact this wasn't our year by about round 20, and didn't want to compromise the VFL team's season. Hence stuck with the same team. Worst case scenario being we still play finals regardless. He is a Pies supporter and said it was obviois Goodwin just refused to make changes and simply gave this squad one last crack before losing Jackson and making some trades in the off season.

At least one win though would have been the minimum. Losing both finals in the way we did.... huge fail. We need to set high expectations. A Prelim at least was the bare minimum.

It was a good year but, to me, it was not the year we should have had nor is it an advance.

Losing 8/14 for mostly the same reason is not the result we deserved. There seemed to be a distinct lack of urgency about our losses that did not translate into any remedial action, be it player rotation, in match changes, more considered selections and preparations for the future.

But just like other teams before us, there is the hope of improvement and advancement next year.

First there is time for rest and recuperation (players, coaches and supporters) and then a new look.

I cannot wait.