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Farewell Luke Jackson

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7 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Chance that it’s bigger than Petraccas contract?!

7 million to one 

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    41 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

    Chance that it’s bigger than Petraccas contract?!

    Two weeks ago I was told by a Player Agent based in Perth, albeit not Luke’s Agent, that the offer is 8 years at 10.3 million from Freo. 

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    5 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

    If we’re going to lose Jackson then we can make it work for us. As good as he is for a young ruckman, I don’t think he’ll ever reach the highs of the million dollar a year top 10 in the league type player he’s being talked up as. We’re cashing in whilst his value is highest IMO. He’s being hyped on potential, not output. Another two years would mean less potential growth, but even if his output is very high his value won’t increase past what it’s being spoken about as now. 

    If we’re able to pry a young gun like Serong or Young plus a top 10ish pick, then I’d say we’re winning the trade and improving our list. Alternately if we can pinch get pick 1-2 from West Coast I’d take it and run. We lost Hogan and won out from that, hopefully we can do the same here.

    Why? Dogga was pick 3 and now has 3 years of development 

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    5 hours ago, rpfc said:

    Would love to know what the Footy Dept thinks of Van Rooyen and his prospects; the tall forward situation is the biggest need we have into 2023 and beyond.

    If we don’t have the long term solution we can always do what we did with Brown and what GC did with Casboult and fill the need short term to buy time and not commit to the NQR option (ie McStay).

    I believe the Footy Dept are extremely happy & positive about Van Rooyen, in fact they believe he will be a very special player, however, don’t expect to see him this year.

    Joel Smith is currently training as a Forward, and there is growing interest in retaining Tomlinson and playing Petty as a forward. 
     

     

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    5 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

    Two weeks ago I was told by a Player Agent based in Perth, albeit not Luke’s Agent, that the offer is 8 years at 10.5 million from Freo. 

    That would be one of if not the biggest deal given in AFL history. Hence what Freo have to give up should fall in line as the biggest exchange of picks ever. 

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    2 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

    I believe the Footy Dept are extremely happy & positive about Van Rooyen, in fact they believe he will be a very special player, however, don’t expect to see him this year.

    Joel Smith is currently training as a Forward, and there is growing interest in retaining Tomlinson and playing Petty as a forward. 
     

     

    That may be the best option. Petty may be the best tall forward bridge to a longer term option.

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    57 minutes ago, picket fence said:

    If the club is fair dinkum, they need to get him to sign NOW  and if he doesn't then know he is gone and say thanks very much and dont play him anywhere. Time to commit young man. That would be what I would do. Time for pandering and posturing is almost extinguished!

    Alright alright settle down.... Maybe I overeacted a tad but..... I dont like losing PREMIERSHIP players for Money....

    I say to my clients... If you love what you do, and work for great employers, then not only will you be well looked after but you will Lurve being around ur mates in a great workplace...

    I'll leave it there

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    17 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

    I believe the Footy Dept are extremely happy & positive about Van Rooyen, in fact they believe he will be a very special player, however, don’t expect to see him this year.

    Joel Smith is currently training as a Forward, and there is growing interest in retaining Tomlinson and playing Petty as a forward. 
     

     

    Do you mean Petty forward and retain Tomlinson for this week or a medium/long term plan for next year onwards?

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    2 minutes ago, Nascent said:

    Do you mean Petty forward and retain Tomlinson for this week or a medium/long term plan for next year onwards?

    I don’t think Lever will get up for this week, however, if he does, don’t be surprised if Tomlinson plays CHB and Petty goes forward. If Lever doesn’t get up, then I don’t think Petty will go forward. 
     

    All I’m saying is that there is discussion taking place about retaining Tomlinson to allow Petty to go forward as long as the pillars of May & Lever are there. 

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    11 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

    I don’t think Lever will get up for this week, however, if he does, don’t be surprised if Tomlinson plays CHB and Petty goes forward. If Lever doesn’t get up, then I don’t think Petty will go forward. 
     

    All I’m saying is that there is discussion taking place about retaining Tomlinson to allow Petty to go forward as long as the pillars of May & Lever are there. 

    Thanks once again mate. Hitting the nail once again it seems with this one.

    The Joel Smith forward link is certainly an interesting one that's for sure.

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    41 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Thanks once again mate. Hitting the nail once again it seems with this one.

    The Joel Smith forward link is certainly an interesting one that's for sure.

    Petty has a great ability to read the ball in flight and his mits are solid. No reason he couldn’t become a forward. The way we are currently putting the ball inside 50 would actually suit him. 
     

    I’ve always liked the idea of J.Smith forward. I was at that Brisbane game at Casey where he kicked 6, ironically standing with his father. He was great and showed a lot of promise. He would have work to do, but great to know it’s being reconsidered

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    1 hour ago, picket fence said:

    I say to my clients... If you love what you do, and work for great employers, then not only will you be well looked after but you will Lurve being around ur mates in a great workplace...

    I'll leave it there

    Get LJ on your books and give him a bit of the old picket rev up.

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    2 hours ago, goodwindees said:

    I don’t think Lever will get up for this week, however, if he does, don’t be surprised if Tomlinson plays CHB and Petty goes forward. If Lever doesn’t get up, then I don’t think Petty will go forward. 
     

    All I’m saying is that there is discussion taking place about retaining Tomlinson to allow Petty to go forward as long as the pillars of May & Lever are there. 

    Makes sense.  The impact (upside/downside) of playing Tomo (as long as it's in form Tomo) vs Petty as the 3rd tall defender will probably be marginal IMV.

    However, the potential upside of playing Petty forward (if he slots into that role quicky enough)?  Reckon many will be coming out after a few matches and all saying "why did we/SG not try this earlier!"

    My gut feel is both Petty and Smith are both better forwards (natural playing instincts/ability) than they are defenders.  More so Petty.  That's not to say Petty is an ordinary defender... pretty solid.

    Edited by Demon Dynasty

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    3 hours ago, goodwindees said:

    I believe the Footy Dept are extremely happy & positive about Van Rooyen, in fact they believe he will be a very special player, however, don’t expect to see him this year.

    Joel Smith is currently training as a Forward, and there is growing interest in retaining Tomlinson and playing Petty as a forward. 
     

     

    Great info thanks!

    I seem to recall Petty being a bit of a shining light as a forward in 2019 when everything was going pear shaped? His goal kicking let him down a bit but he showed a lot that year.

    EDIT: Had a look at the stats Harry played 10 games, mainly as a forward in 2019. He took 43 marks and kicked 6 goals 5 behinds. Not great, not bad, he’s a much better more confident player now, it would be interesting.

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    3 hours ago, Vineytime said:

    That would be one of if not the biggest deal given in AFL history. Hence what Freo have to give up should fall in line as the biggest exchange of picks ever. 

    It's a good point you make ... the trade needs to in some ways match the dollars in the new contract elsewhere (if it all goes that way)

    And if it's a huge amount then the value in dollar terms should equal a similar value in picks and players

    An example at the lower end of the scale might be something like a 3rd or 4th round pick for a player being offered a 2 year deal elsewhere on below average money

    It's mere speculation but what would fair compensation be for a former no.3 pick who might be getting offered $10.5Million over 8 years elsewhere?

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    6 minutes ago, Macca said:

    It's a good point you make ... the trade needs to in some ways match the dollars in the new contract elsewhere (if it all goes that way)

    And if it's a huge amount then the value in dollar terms should equal a similar value in picks and players

    An example at the lower end of the scale might be something like a 3rd or 4th round pick for a player being offered a 2 year deal elsewhere on below average money

    It's mere speculation but what would fair compensation be for a former no.3 pick who might be getting offered $10.5Million over 8 years elsewhere?

    Something that Freo don’t have. You are completely correct and I don’t understand why the media aren’t discussing this more. He is going for a packet of crisps, Freo have nothing, as they tied all their players up, so how does this deal get done. Jackson doesn’t see. Like the type of kid who will screw the club, if he chooses to leave. Freo are going to have to give up a player and two first rounders you’d think. They may get a future second back from us. 

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    Just now, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

    Something that Freo don’t have. You are completely correct and I don’t understand why the media aren’t discussing this more. He is going for a packet of crisps, Freo have nothing, as they tied all their players up, so how does this deal get done. Jackson doesn’t see. Like the type of kid who will screw the club, if he chooses to leave. Freo are going to have to give up a player and two first rounders you’d think. They may get a future second back from us. 

    I'm predicting a stalemate unless they can somehow come up with the currency

    And it is looking like LJ might be on the move especially if the money offer is close to the truth ... it's a life changing amount if true (and everyone has a price)

    But we can play hardball and just on that,  the 2 clubs might have an in principle deal on the table ... if Freo can come up with what we want, they get him

    And our ambit claim might be quite substantial

    But I'm speculating of course because in reality I know diddly squat!!

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    7 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

    My gut feel is both Petty and Smith are both better forwards (natural playing instincts/ability) than they are defenders.  More so Petty.  That's not to say Petty is an ordinary defender... pretty solid.

    Weird gut feel.. 

    He was a key defender in his underage year and has played as a defender almost his entire career with us.. 

    He is a key defender and is becoming a really high quality one. 

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    7 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

    My gut feel is both Petty and Smith are both better forwards (natural playing instincts/ability) than they are defenders.  More so Petty.  That's not to say Petty is an ordinary defender... pretty solid.

    🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

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    21 minutes ago, djr said:

    I get the feeling that the Weid will not be on our list next year.

    What makes you say that?

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    1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

    What makes you say that?

    I get the feeling reading this thread everyone wants to leave 🙄

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