CHANGES: Rd 15 vs Essendon

[Diamond_Jim 12,103]

5 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

A couple of reporters tried to get Goody to answer on Weid and B Brown this week during this morning’s media conference. Did not give much away, not that we should expect much much from pressers, but Goody did mention Brown is still building his game and looking better and better all the time. 
Is that enough to be included for Saturday night on the back of a 5-6 week mini preseason and no competitive matches for over a month?

Weid might be omitted, not sure if it’s for Brown.

Assuming there's a Casey game you might be right.

Playing Mitch Brown is the conservative play or even Bedford.

On the other hand Brown has now "been building" for 11-12 weeks so you wonder whether another week makes much difference.

[Demon Dynasty 16,368]

On 6/22/2021 at 2:21 PM, Fat Tony said:

We definitely could go smaller in the forward line if Weideman goes out. But we should go more like for like IMO i.e. more of a forward like Melksham or Chandler.

My thinking is that we have been playing with fewer numbers around the ball at stoppages this year, so we don't need as many midfielders. If the opposition push up a forward at the the stoppages, we are happy to leave Salem or Lever as loose defenders, so even if we lose the clearances we have structure behind the ball to win it back. If we are even numbered at the stoppages, we rely on Gawn, Oliver, Petracca, Viney, Harmes and Jordon to dominate the clearances.

I think Sparrow is a midfielder only at this stage. He lacks forward craft and so he is the most obvious out for Viney.

If they get enough supply inside 50 Tippa could tear us another new one.  They won't need many to win as we generally aren't a big scoring side.

Would rather win the clearances and the outside stoppage clearances this week vs the usual reliance on defence winning the day.

Their extra (forward) pushing up at stoppages needs to be covered off most if the time IMHO.

 

Edited June 23, 2021 by Rusty Nails

[Pates 9,556]

Even if we decide not to bring Brown in I think it sets a bad standard for selection picking Sam. I get he’s going through a rough trot with his confidence but how does it permeate through the entire list if they see players get gifted games on the back of absolutely useless performances. He’s had a month to get his mojo, if he isn’t able to get it by now then he should sent to the magoos to find it. 

Mitch was next in line so if we want to maintain the structure then bring him in. Otherwise I think it’s a chance to have another go at the smaller forward line. 

[binman 39,574]

6 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Going off that, I don't think Brown plays.

What makes you say that? I couldn't get a tell at all.

I just watched the presser that article was based on and goody gave no indication which way he'll go.

Did say the training session tbey were about to have (today) would be decisive. 

[dazzledavey36 49,794]

3 minutes ago, binman said:

What makes you say that? I couldn't get a tell at all.

I just watched the presser that article was based on and goody gave no indication which way he'll go.

Did say the training session tbey were about to have (today) would be decisive. 

Gut feel.

[binman 39,574]

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

Gut feel.

Fair 'nuff

[COOLX 159]

Not selecting a Daw based on having forward/ruck covered is a strange way of thinking. Why would you bother to try you hardest in the reserves if are playing 2nd fiddle. I think Daw could become a Posidadly ( probably mis spelt ) who kicked many goals for the cats in their last premiership era.

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,455]

16 minutes ago, COOLX said:

Not selecting a Daw based on having forward/ruck covered is a strange way of thinking. Why would you bother to try you hardest in the reserves if are playing 2nd fiddle. I think Daw could become a Posidadly ( probably mis spelt ) who kicked many goals for the cats in their last premiership era.

I reckon Majak is much more dangerous in our forward line than Ben Brown

Given we're likely to bomb it on the head of whomever is down there, prefer it to be big Maj rather than BBB who's only real danger is lead/mark

[Jaded No More 60,095]

I have a feeling they drop Weideman and we play with Tmac and Fritsch as the main forwards. BB will be made to prove his fitness at Casey I suspect. 

[adonski 9,471]

How some of you actually rate Daw is beyond me

[Dr. Gonzo 22,813]

In - Viney

Out - Weid

[WERRIDEE 5,255]

41 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I have a feeling they drop Weideman and we play with Tmac and Fritsch as the main forwards. BB will be made to prove his fitness at Casey I suspect. 

If they don't play Ben Brown I'll be wondering why they recruited him. Essendon have no key defenders and Brown has a good record against them it would be madness not to play him considering they haven't given him an extended run while they gave Weideman an extended run.

[SPC 3,064]

B. Brown.. ready to take Bummers to pain town.. 

[binman 39,574]

2 hours ago, adonski said:

How some of you actually rate Daw is beyond me

As in, you are unsure how some rate daw?

I reckon he is a good vfl player, who would likely be selected if jacko or gawn had to miss a game.

[WERRIDEE 5,255]

POSSIBLE TEAM

B: HIBBERD, MAY, LEVER

HB: SALEM, PETTY, RIVERS

C: LANGDON, PETRACCA, BRAYSHAW

HF: PICKETT, MCDONALD, NEAL-BULLEN

F: FRITSCH, B.BROWN, SPARGO

FOLL: GAWN, OLIVER, VINEY

IC: HUNT, HARMES, JORDON, JACKSON

SUB: JONES

[640MD 3,091]

On the MFC website.  Headline.  Viney confirmed for round 15.

I could not read anymore my thumbs are too big and am not good with computers but
Viney is back

[loges 6,375]

9 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

If they don't play Ben Brown I'll be wondering why they recruited him. Essendon have no key defenders and Brown has a good record against them it would be madness not to play him considering they haven't given him an extended run while they gave Weideman an extended run.

This

[praha 10,574]

15 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

If they get enough supply inside 50 Tippa could tear us another new one.  They won't need many to win as we generally aren't a big scoring side.

Would rather win the clearances and the outside stoppage clearances this week vs the usual reliance on defence winning the day.

Their extra (forward) pushing up at stoppages needs to be covered off most if the time IMHO.

 

We're the fifth highest scoring team in the league. Bombers score less than a goal more than us a game.

[Lord Travis 10,327]

31 minutes ago, praha said:

We're the fifth highest scoring team in the league. Bombers score less than a goal more than us a game.

Across the past 6 matches we’re the 9th highest scoring and have failed to crack 100 points. Our form has dropped off and we haven’t been a top four team statistically across the past 6 weeks. Both our offense and defense have been worked out to a degree and we’re now struggling to implement both with much fluency.

Across the same time period, Bombers are 6th highest scoring and pulled out a 140+ score. They’re in good offensive form. We need to be on our game to stop them. We’ve learnt from the Adelaide and Pies games that every game is loseable, doesn’t matter if they’re bottom four.

Edited June 23, 2021 by Lord Travis

[whatwhat say what 20,399]

i wonder if, given the forecast, we might go 'small' with just viney in for weideman

alternatively, i remember the sydney game which was similar and sideshow bob and plugger mac were dominant with 7 of our 10 goals between them

i still lean towards...

OUT: weideman, sparrow
IN: viney, b brown

[Demon3 2,541]

I think if its Ben or Weid or Mitch we need an extra tall in, although rain might play a part. I would play an extra tallit will allow Max to play down back a bit deeper. our strength has been our weakness in both games we have lost. Defence. We defended too deep, it allows short hit up kicks, i would want Max to drift down back when he can, deep, which will allow Lever to roam that 40-60ms out which takes away the short hit up.

Match ups for Stringer, AMT, Parish and Hind will be critical i reckon in this match. We simply must hard tag Parish. 

[Kent 2,674]

12 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

I think if its Ben or Weid or Mitch we need an extra tall in, although rain might play a part. I would play an extra tallit will allow Max to play down back a bit deeper. our strength has been our weakness in both games we have lost. Defence. We defended too deep, it allows short hit up kicks, i would want Max to drift down back when he can, deep, which will allow Lever to roam that 40-60ms out which takes away the short hit up.

Match ups for Stringer, AMT, Parish and Hind will be critical i reckon in this match. We simply must hard tag Parish. 

Harmesey?

[Demon Dynasty 16,368]

12 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

If they don't play Ben Brown I'll be wondering why they recruited him. Essendon have no key defenders and Brown has a good record against them it would be madness not to play him considering they haven't given him an extended run while they gave Weideman an extended run.

This is a good point.  Need to exploit their weaknesses.  Might place pressure on them to swing Hooker back if BB got off the leash a little?

[Redleg 38,554]

Shut Merrett and Parish down or pay the price.

[Superunknown 3,643]

It's not like we've a dearth of skill to cover. Where's our What they're saying at Windy Hill thread. I imagine it's something like

• How're we going to cover all of Viney, Oliver, Petracca, Langdon?
• Who will Jack Viney make cry?
• How will we get through Lever, May, Petty et al?

(I forgot to include the obligatory spelling mistakes).