Reprimand. $1000 fine. Accidental. Low impact. Player played on. 

7 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Reprimand. $1000 fine. Accidental. Low impact. Player played on. 

There it is in a nutshell.

Bayley 'Coleman' Fritsch will play Saturday night and kick another 6.

 

FFs it’s like when Caven head butted poor Tony’s elbow. In this case the Roos player has viciously and in a pre meditated fashion effected a sniper like attack on Our Bayleys elbow. I’d be demanding satisfaction with ansell dishwashing gloves at 10 Paces at high noon

13 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

FFs it’s like when Caven head butted poor Tony’s elbow. In this case the Roos player has viciously and in a pre meditated fashion effected a sniper like attack on Our Bayleys elbow. I’d be demanding satisfaction with ansell dishwashing gloves at 10 Paces at high noon

I'll be content to give the young lad a pardon.

You can't say it was unintentional but then argue he should be suspended unless you also think Hawkins and Hipwood should have been suspended.

If it's unintentional then the consequence was an accident, as it was with Hawkins and Hipwood and was the core reasoning both got off.

But we know consistency and the following of precedents is not the MRO's strong suit.

Interesting that all players who were cited before Sundays games got fined. 
 

hopefully the trend continues....

I reckon he will be okay, looked an accident and he's generally a very fair player. 

fine at worst. 

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

100% this. Dusty fends off high every week, often recklessly to the head or throat. He never even gets cited for head high contact. I still remember he did a high fend off on Jordie McKenzie years ago that hit his throat and Jordie came from the ground with breathing issues. Not cited, not even a free kick. The rules don’t apply for Martin apparently!

What is Fritsch supposed to do in this scenario? Not try to protect himself and just accept broken ribs? He was about to be cleaned up by a guy coming in at waist and chest height. He had less than half a second to react in mid air and just braced himself for strong contact. He honestly did an incredible job not to raise his arm and shoulder higher and completely cave in the guys skull. The North player was dazed for a bit but then played out the game. It was possibly the best result injury wise for both players.

If he gets suspended for that then the game is officially a non contact sport going forward. Not even worth a fine. 

Spot on. Danger punched the ball, left his elbow out and KO'ed Vlastuin in the grand final and it was fair game! 

Accidents happen but a core of the game is that the ball player should protect himself from copping injury and that everyone else works around it.

It's the half a step that Fritsch takes from the gather to contact and the fact both players were down at knee high that makes it a pretty reasonable reaction to contact and not a reckless play. A player as lean as Fritsch is a monty to get sling tackled if he doesn't protect himself too.

A fine to caution Fritsch I could understand, but more than that and you have to start picking all sorts of contact that results in injury. Brown and Walker split their heads open colliding and everyone is understand that it's going to happen and has happened for 100 years with no medical supervision, no care, no research and largely the game has gone on.

There are two things in Bailey's defence

The first is, in real time he makes a decision to fend off in a fraction of a second.. It was a ridiculously short time.

The second is, his right hand has a broken bone in it. His instinct was to protect his hand hence why he raised his arm to protect himself against a player charging at him.

That should negate any 'intentional' argument but he will probably be fined for medium impact.

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Edited May 2, 20214 yr by jnrmac

7 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

There are two things in Bailey's defence

The first is, in real time he makes a decision to fend off in a fraction of a second.. It was a ridiculously short time.

The second is, his right hand has a broken bone in it. His instinct was to protect his hand hence why he raised his arm to protect himself against a player charging at him.

That should negate any 'intentional' argument but he will probably be fined for medium impact.

Sounds like we agree. 

Posted this several hours ago.

"Argument has to be,  that is my broken hand arm and I can’t fend off with my hand, as it could be further damaged, so used my forearm to his shoulder, but he ducked and caused the head contact. No concussion. Played the game out. Hopefully that is a fine" 

They go on outcome. If the bloke was concussed he would get weeks. 

he didn’t so he won’t. 

madness but should work in our favour this time

3 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Sounds like we agree. 

Posted this several hours ago.

"Argument has to be,  that is my broken hand arm and I can’t fend off with my hand, as it could be further damaged, so used my forearm to his shoulder, but he ducked and caused the head contact. No concussion. Played the game out. Hopefully that is a fine" 

Yes, sorry hadn't had time to read through all of the posts.

Agree. This should be the clubs main line of defence.

 

 

Just now, DubDee said:

They go on outcome. If the bloke was concussed he would get weeks. 

he didn’t so he won’t. 

madness but should work in our favour this time

They didn't in the Steven May incident

 

26 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

They didn't in the Steven May incident

 

Sometimes they go on income.

33 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Sometimes they go on income.

i see what you did there...

Another thing in his defence if you watch it real slow his elbow glances off the kids shoulder first. 
 

If he gets anything, challenge it. He’s one of our best players. 

Edited May 2, 20214 yr by Deestroy All

Just watched it again ,think he will be  in a  fair bit of strife.You can't elbow the head,its just such a basic rule

7 hours ago, jnrmac said:

There are two things in Bailey's defence

The first is, in real time he makes a decision to fend off in a fraction of a second.. It was a ridiculously short time.

The second is, his right hand has a broken bone in it. His instinct was to protect his hand hence why he raised his arm to protect himself against a player charging at him.

That should negate any 'intentional' argument but he will probably be fined for medium impact.

If it’s medium impact then he’s sitting on the sidelines because it was head high contact.

1 hour ago, forever demons said:

Just watched it again ,think he will be  in a  fair bit of strife.You can't elbow the head,its just such a basic rule

Ask Steven May whether its a basic rule?

No-one has told Geelong or Richmond about this theory of yours.Maybe it can be raised at the annual Geelong coaches and  Gil dinner party.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5 hours ago, forever demons said:

Just watched it again ,think he will be  in a  fair bit of strife.You can't elbow the head,its just such a basic rule

 

16 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

The fact the North bloke was forced off the field. Wouldn’t that be the definition of high?

I hope I’m wrong and more than happy to be wrong.

If you look closely, the North player lowered his body before contact. You might also note that Fritsch's forearm initially made contact with the North player's forearm and then got deflected upwards. 

Does anybody have an idea when the actual decision is made/announced? Surely we should have heard by now?

7 minutes ago, CYB said:

Does anybody have an idea when the actual decision is made/announced? Surely we should have heard by now?

I'm guessing this afternoon 

They just said on the radio they are looking at it today 

I reckon he will get a week