MFC Football Technology Pathway Program & Volunteers

[roy11 3,897]

The Club is taking a bit of a bashing on social media today.

 

See advert:

 

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Edited December 1, 2020 by Grapeviney

[Diamond_Jim 12,642]

Don't like it on so many levels

[dazzledavey36 55,456]

Disgusting by the footy club.

[rjay 25,202]

The old play the free gig for exposure routine...

You can only live for so long on love then you gotta put food on the table.

 

[whatwhat say what 23,106]

copping a bashing and rightly so BUT the majority of clubs do this, albeit usually tied to an rmit, melbourne uni, or monah uni course work

[Lucifers Hero 40,451]

Why are all these jobs said to be located at Casey (VFL Coach, Head of Development, Volunteer Analysts).  No mention that after covid they revert to Gosch.   I'm surprised the ads don't reference that.

They would appeal to a much wider group if they new Casey was short term.  Or is it?

Edited December 1, 2020 by Lucifer's Hero

[BDA 22,957]

Tough market for graduates.

You know you picked the wrong course when the best on offer is an opportunity to volunteer.  There’ll be plenty of candidates I’m sure but the club should pay the going rate. Very poor form by the club.

Maybe you're right @Ohio USA - David. The club does “own" people after all.

[dpositive 1,767]

If it's work that needs doing it needs to be paid for.

[nosoupforme 3,085]

I read that and thought that they would at least mentioned to offer the volunteers a cup of coffee or tea with a biscuit for morning tea. 

 I suppose that is the best they can do.  Times are tough .

[darkhorse72 1,925]

I disagree about the sentiments on the adversitment.

If I was at uni /younger and wanted experience in those fields or recently graduated, I would jump at this opportunity. (besides being at the Dee's). The skills and networking to break into a tough industry would be immense.  While I agree you get paid for what work you do, its up front and clear on what you need give and you'll get in return, and I can say to a future employee this in my track record working within an "elite" sporting organisation and what I helped achieve. Beats putting only Macca's/subway on a resume.

I imagine in the past this would have been arranged directly with a university as part of their academic program. (Been involved in those in the past).  Maybe covid has changed that and it presents an opportunity for others to get in.

 

 

 

 

 

[Diamond_Jim 12,642]

1 hour ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

copping a bashing and rightly so BUT the majority of clubs do this, albeit usually tied to an rmit, melbourne uni, or monah uni course work

Agree but at 10-25 hours per week, travel to Casey and mentioning graduates... not on and very disappointed in the MFC

Edited December 1, 2020 by Diamond_Jim

[Deefiant 441]

16 minutes ago, Darkhorse72 said:

I disagree about the sentiments on the adversitment.

If I was at uni /younger and wanted experience in those fields or recently graduated, I would jump at this opportunity. (besides being at the Dee's). The skills and networking to break into a tough industry would be immense.  While I agree you get paid for what work you do, its up front and clear on what you need give and you'll get in return, and I can say to a future employee this in my track record working within an "elite" sporting organisation and what I helped achieve. Beats putting only Macca's/subway on a resume.

I imagine in the past this would have been arranged directly with a university as part of their academic program. (Been involved in those in the past).  Maybe covid has changed that and it presents an opportunity for others to get in.

Might be a great opportunity but they're capitalising on the desperation of newly graduated. Sure you have an opportunity to put something good on your resume but why should it come at the cost of free work? There's a reason why volunteering for work that is usually paid for by companies is illegal in australia. It's for the benefit of society in general. Before you know it you'll have all sorts of companies/corporations expecting free work in the name of 'experience'. 

Edited December 1, 2020 by Deefiant

[DeeSpencer 26,091]

 

[Lucifers Hero 40,451]

Not sure who they were planning to attract putting the ad out to the world at large if their targets were uni students.

The club would have been better off placing the ad at the Monash University campuses in Clayton, Frankston and Caulfield given the work is (sometimes) based at Casey.

Edited December 1, 2020 by Lucifer's Hero

[Elegt 872]

1 hour ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

copping a bashing and rightly so BUT the majority of clubs do this, albeit usually tied to an rmit, melbourne uni, or monah uni course work

Yeah pretty much all clubs do this, but its still not right. This isn't a 2 hr a week gig

[Dr.D 1,771]

maybe Goodwin can sign up and learn some stuff from the volunteers. 

[Smokey 4,389]

I get that this is exploitative in some ways, but really ... who's got a gun to these uni students head making them do this? 

[Sir Why You Little 37,241]

The New World

Kids will do it

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Meh.

Really.

Meh.

They worded it poorly and clarified it.  No footy club is perfect, no matter how much supporters want them to be.

Next.

[Pulp Fritschon 765]

Slow news day 

[Clintosaurus 7,913]

37 minutes ago, Pulp Fritschon said:

Slow news day 

Focus off the Pies for a moment 

[Demon Disciple 12,315]

10 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Focus off the Pies for a moment 

Doubt there’d be many uni qualified Pies supporters out there Clint ?

[darkhorse72 1,925]

1 hour ago, Deefiant said:

Might be a great opportunity but they're capitalising on the desperation of newly graduated. Sure you have an opportunity to put something good on your resume but why should it come at the cost of free work? There's a reason why volunteering for work that is usually paid for by companies is illegal in australia. It's for the benefit of society in general. Before you know it you'll have all sorts of companies/corporations expecting free work in the name of 'experience'. 

They have clarified its aimed at uni students and a few other points.  (Not being a legal HR person) Illegality is only promising it will become F/T paid work if you work X for free.  In this case it is not, totally agree that is not on. 

If your at uni, this i a great opportunity for those interested in a sporting field of work in the support skills.  As pointed out focusing on the Uni market and not a blanket ad was maybe their misstep.  I would support my kids to do it, if it matched their ambitions.

 

[Meggs 598]

Whoever drafted the advertisement and or approved the final copy should be admonished.  The opportunity is a really good one.  As an undergraduate I would have applied in my day.

[Kent 2,916]

Fantastic from the club

Get involved

Its not about the money 

Imagine the skills these volunteers will accrue

Wonderful initiative  get it going