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MFC Football Technology Pathway Program & Volunteers

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The Club is taking a bit of a bashing on social media today.

 

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    The old play the free gig for exposure routine...

    You can only live for so long on love then you gotta put food on the table.

     

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    Why are all these jobs said to be located at Casey (VFL Coach, Head of Development, Volunteer Analysts).  No mention that after covid they revert to Gosch.   I'm surprised the ads don't reference that.

    They would appeal to a much wider group if they new Casey was short term.  Or is it?

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    Tough market for graduates.

    You know you picked the wrong course when the best on offer is an opportunity to volunteer.  There’ll be plenty of candidates I’m sure but the club should pay the going rate. Very poor form by the club.

    Maybe you're right @Ohio USA - David. The club does “own" people after all.

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    If it's work that needs doing it needs to be paid for.

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    I read that and thought that they would at least mentioned to offer the volunteers a cup of coffee or tea with a biscuit for morning tea. 

     I suppose that is the best they can do.  Times are tough .

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    I disagree about the sentiments on the adversitment.

    If I was at uni /younger and wanted experience in those fields or recently graduated, I would jump at this opportunity. (besides being at the Dee's). The skills and networking to break into a tough industry would be immense.  While I agree you get paid for what work you do, its up front and clear on what you need give and you'll get in return, and I can say to a future employee this in my track record working within an "elite" sporting organisation and what I helped achieve. Beats putting only Macca's/subway on a resume.

    I imagine in the past this would have been arranged directly with a university as part of their academic program. (Been involved in those in the past).  Maybe covid has changed that and it presents an opportunity for others to get in.

     

     

     

     

     

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    1 hour ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    copping a bashing and rightly so BUT the majority of clubs do this, albeit usually tied to an rmit, melbourne uni, or monah uni course work

    Agree but at 10-25 hours per week, travel to Casey and mentioning graduates... not on and very disappointed in the MFC

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    16 minutes ago, Darkhorse72 said:

    I disagree about the sentiments on the adversitment.

    If I was at uni /younger and wanted experience in those fields or recently graduated, I would jump at this opportunity. (besides being at the Dee's). The skills and networking to break into a tough industry would be immense.  While I agree you get paid for what work you do, its up front and clear on what you need give and you'll get in return, and I can say to a future employee this in my track record working within an "elite" sporting organisation and what I helped achieve. Beats putting only Macca's/subway on a resume.

    I imagine in the past this would have been arranged directly with a university as part of their academic program. (Been involved in those in the past).  Maybe covid has changed that and it presents an opportunity for others to get in.

    Might be a great opportunity but they're capitalising on the desperation of newly graduated. Sure you have an opportunity to put something good on your resume but why should it come at the cost of free work? There's a reason why volunteering for work that is usually paid for by companies is illegal in australia. It's for the benefit of society in general. Before you know it you'll have all sorts of companies/corporations expecting free work in the name of 'experience'. 

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    Not sure who they were planning to attract putting the ad out to the world at large if their targets were uni students.

    The club would have been better off placing the ad at the Monash University campuses in Clayton, Frankston and Caulfield given the work is (sometimes) based at Casey.

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    1 hour ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    copping a bashing and rightly so BUT the majority of clubs do this, albeit usually tied to an rmit, melbourne uni, or monah uni course work

    Yeah pretty much all clubs do this, but its still not right. This isn't a 2 hr a week gig

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    I get that this is exploitative in some ways, but really ... who's got a gun to these uni students head making them do this? 

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    Meh.

    Really.

    Meh.

    They worded it poorly and clarified it.  No footy club is perfect, no matter how much supporters want them to be.

    Next.

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    37 minutes ago, Pulp Fritschon said:

    Slow news day 

    Focus off the Pies for a moment 

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    10 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

    Focus off the Pies for a moment 

    Doubt there’d be many uni qualified Pies supporters out there Clint ?

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    1 hour ago, Deefiant said:

    Might be a great opportunity but they're capitalising on the desperation of newly graduated. Sure you have an opportunity to put something good on your resume but why should it come at the cost of free work? There's a reason why volunteering for work that is usually paid for by companies is illegal in australia. It's for the benefit of society in general. Before you know it you'll have all sorts of companies/corporations expecting free work in the name of 'experience'. 

    They have clarified its aimed at uni students and a few other points.  (Not being a legal HR person) Illegality is only promising it will become F/T paid work if you work X for free.  In this case it is not, totally agree that is not on. 

    If your at uni, this i a great opportunity for those interested in a sporting field of work in the support skills.  As pointed out focusing on the Uni market and not a blanket ad was maybe their misstep.  I would support my kids to do it, if it matched their ambitions.

     

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    Whoever drafted the advertisement and or approved the final copy should be admonished.  The opportunity is a really good one.  As an undergraduate I would have applied in my day.

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    Fantastic from the club

    Get involved

    Its not about the money 

    Imagine the skills these volunteers will accrue

    Wonderful initiative  get it going

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