Go the Biff 3,474 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said: Yeah he should've stayed at Hawthorn forever like Hodge, Mitchell and Lewis did. Had to laugh at Kennett imploring Smith & Gunston to be "one club players". They pinched Gunston from Adelaide. 2 1 11 Quote
Redleg 42,180 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said: Yeah he should've stayed at Hawthorn forever like Hodge, Mitchell and Lewis did. They were all pensioned off by Clarko and told to get a deal elsewhere if they didn’t want to retire. This situation is completely different they offered Smith a 2 year deal and he left. 5 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 I’m grateful to Isaac Smith for moving across to Geelong where I’m sure that he’ll have an impact in 2021 and possibly in 2022. It was that third year of the contract he might have entered into with Melbourne that had me concerned and Smith’s own decision to go with 2 years confirmed that he has his own doubts. That makes it a win/win for all concerned. Expect more big news from the Cats when the results of the Royal Commission into Aged Care Quality and Safety are handed down in February/March next year. 4 1 8 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,691 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Redleg said: They were all pensioned off by Clarko and told to get a deal elsewhere if they didn’t want to retire. This situation is completely different they offered Smith a 2 year deal and he left. I'm aware of that, but if the Hawks wanted to establish a culture of experienced players mentoring the kids they would've actually drafted some kids and kept the veterans around for longer. Instead they went down the route of trading for a raft of experienced players and cleared space for them. Most Hawthorn supporters would prefer it wasn't the Cats but don't begrudge Smith for leaving, I doubt it makes any difference to his legacy. 1 Quote
jnrmac 20,382 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 Isaac Smith is a hack anyway Had to be said 2 Quote
loges 6,767 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 41 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said: Yeah he should've stayed at Hawthorn forever like Hodge, Mitchell and Lewis did. Two of them didn't take the soft option to go to a top side and the other virtually got told to leave. 1 Quote
BDA 23,048 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 42 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said: Yeah he should've stayed at Hawthorn forever like Hodge, Mitchell and Lewis did. Mitchell left for a player coaching role. Suited both parties. He’s back there now and is being groomed to be the next coach. Hodge and Lewis left for developing teams although to be fair Lewis left before he was pushed. Both would be welcome back in another capacity I’d reckon. Smith left for the cats. Big difference. He had other options but chose a hated rival. Doubtful he’ll be as welcome as Hodge or Lewis in the future Quote
dl4e 5,851 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 Wonder if Lewis had anything to do with Smiths choice ? Quote
hemingway 7,633 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 Smith wanted a change. He felt stale at the Hawks and a lot of his mates had departed. He had respect for Clarkson but there was not much love between them Its no surprise that he wanted to go to a successful club and had doubts about the Dees. I’m told that privately he has been critical of the Dees and some of their playing personnel. Players backchatting teammates etc. He only wanted another 2 years whichever club it was. And as reported it seems he wants a lifestyle change and to get away from Melbourne. 1 Quote
monoccular 17,760 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said: ....... Expect more big news from the Cats when the results of the Royal Commission into Aged Care Quality and Safety are handed down in February/March next year. Absolutely brilliant, WJ. One of the best. Anyway, and I didn’t want to say it when he was a possibility to join us, but I find him very unlikable; almost but not quite on the Goddard level, but close. (Maybe it was the smug look on his face at the last huddle when we beat them in that final 2018.) 3 Quote
Demonland 74,457 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 I had early mail on Smith going to the Cats a week ago but Australia Post is so slow these days. 4 Quote
raDeelaide 256 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 Well if this just isn't a kick in the nuts. I'm not totally devo that we didn't get him. I'm just bitter that we were pipped at the last hurdle. Let's set our sights on a younger wingman and hope karma does the rest. 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 Shut the thread. Isaac? I don’t know anyone by that name 1 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said: Shut the thread. Isaac? I don’t know anyone by that name Yes - we don’t shut them but move them across to the main Demonland board. 1 Quote
Grr-owl 1,258 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 I'm not happy. Lewis doesn't seem to want to be an assistant and now an onfield leader has turned away at the last hurdle. Feel that we've blown opportunities bring in Hawthorn nous. So now we go all out for Phillips and Higgins, who are good, but young. Quote
BDA 23,048 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Grr-owl said: I'm not happy. Lewis doesn't seem to want to be an assistant and now an onfield leader has turned away at the last hurdle. Feel that we've blown opportunities bring in Hawthorn nous. So now we go all out for Phillips and Higgins, who are good, but young. All good. we'll get hawthorn nous from Yze. 1 1 Quote
buck_nekkid 6,103 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Grr-owl said: I'm not happy. Lewis doesn't seem to want to be an assistant and now an onfield leader has turned away at the last hurdle. Feel that we've blown opportunities bring in Hawthorn nous. So now we go all out for Phillips and Higgins, who are good, but young. Adem Yze has Hawks ip 2 Quote
Cranky Franky 2,270 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 A pox on Geelong. Hope they go the same way as the Crows after their 2017 Grand Final. 2 Quote
drysdale demon 4,837 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 8 hours ago, ben russell said: Do you live there though? Only then can you truly feel the full force of hate. Yeah, they are everywhere in Drysdale, I am trying to come with a pesticide to keep them under control. Quote
Cards13 9,117 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Moonshadow said: You must be real fun at parties, Lefty At Communist Parties he’s a riot. 1 1 Quote
Earl Hood 6,167 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, hemingway said: Smith wanted a change. He felt stale at the Hawks and a lot of his mates had departed. He had respect for Clarkson but there was not much love between them Its no surprise that he wanted to go to a successful club and had doubts about the Dees. I’m told that privately he has been critical of the Dees and some of their playing personnel. Players backchatting teammates etc. He only wanted another 2 years whichever club it was. And as reported it seems he wants a lifestyle change and to get away from Melbourne. Still a interesting choice by Smith to me. He had the choice of running the deep wings at the G for a majority of games or running in traffic at Cardinia Park that has no wings. As Hawks supporters tell me he Doesn’t tackle and likes to have space to receive, and run. It will be interesting to see how he plays at Geelong next year. Quote
Cards13 9,117 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Better days ahead said: Mitchell left for a player coaching role. Suited both parties. He’s back there now and is being groomed to be the next coach. Hodge and Lewis left for developing teams although to be fair Lewis left before he was pushed. Both would be welcome back in another capacity I’d reckon. Smith left for the cats. Big difference. He had other options but chose a hated rival. Doubtful he’ll be as welcome as Hodge or Lewis in the future Yea the players/coaches he played with don’t care, he won flags with them. Quote
Ron Burgundy 8,588 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said: Bullet dodged. Never wanted him. Yep, you are a gun. That Goodwin, Clarkson and Chris Scott really wanted him absolutely reinforces your innate ability to assess talent. Edited October 30, 2020 by Ron Burgundy 1 2 Quote
At Least I Saw a Flag 5,353 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 Some of the comments remind me of the following scenario* ... Ask a woman out ... get a knock back. Response: "I'm glad ... she wasn't much chop anyway". *Never experienced by me personally, but have observed others ... ? 2 2 Quote
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