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  On 21/07/2020 at 01:13, DemonOX said:

I think we need TMac in so that Andrews can go to him.

TMac has the experience and strength to go up against Andrews. Even if TMac occupies Andrews possibly further up the ground could be an advantage.

 

  On 21/07/2020 at 05:02, Ouch! said:

Curious what makes you think that Andrews would go to TMac over Weid? If Andrews takes the number one forward, then he'll go to Weid regardless of TMac being in the team. If I were Brisbane, I wouldn't be fussed playing the second key defender (McStay is it?) on him.

 

 

  On 21/07/2020 at 06:22, #11-TonyAnderson said:

Play TMac on a wing? - has a great tank

 

  On 21/07/2020 at 06:40, Ouch! said:

...he certainly turns like one!!  

Seriously why put him on the wing ahead of Tomlinson who is basically the same size, has the same aerobic capacity, and is as good aerially? and is a much better two way runner and quicker than TMac.

Andrews will go with who ever plays deep, he won't just follow Tommy around.

As for Tommy playing on a wing, he has the turning circle of the titanic....they would love him on the wing.

I would be very surprised to see Tommy play.

He will get his opportunity with the short turnarounds.

I AVB is out injured then we're more likely to see either ANB or Jones come in for him.

 
  On 21/07/2020 at 03:07, Cheesy D. Pun said:

My gut feel is that TMac would have had a day out against the Hawks. It's very tough on Jacko but I think Tommy comes in.

It won't happen but I'd also like to see Rivers or Jones for Lockhart.

Rather leave out AVB and bring in Tommy to take his wing possie. AVB gave it up too often with direct short passes to the opposition.

of topic but does anyone else think when you look at fritta you think of Beavis and butthead

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      On 21/07/2020 at 09:45, forever demons said:

    of topic but does anyone else think when you look at fritta you think of Beavis and butthead

    Every time I see Melksham I see Beavis  

      On 21/07/2020 at 08:13, maximum bob said:

    TMac would make a good trade to Hawthorn to be with his other ex-teammates. He should now be battling his brother for a possie in the backline. His days as a key forward are behind him. Look to the future.

     

    Think we are jumping the gun, Weed and Jacko look great but one game isn't enough to go by, T Mac still has to be our best forward untill these guys can preform for a season 

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    If the Vanders news is correct then I think we have 5 realistic options:

    1. McDonald in at CHF. Some combination of Bennell, Harmes, Fritsch on a wing.

    2. ANB or Spargo in at half forward. Bennell/Harmes/Fritsch wing

    3. Jones in on the wing and/or half forward.

    4. Tomlinson on the wing

    5. Hunt on a wing.

    The option I like best might actually be Hunt. Attribute wise he's probably the most similar to Vanders in that his speed to cover off defensively is vital. He didn't have the tank to play wing under normal circumstances but with the shorter quarters he can do really short burst rotations. It's the most risky but most upside of the replacements IMO.

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      On 21/07/2020 at 03:46, In Harmes Way said:

    If you're bringing in TMac for Jackson, what part of Jackson's game on Sunday do you point to in order to give him an understanding on why he's being dropped?

    dropped chest mark from the bullet pass

    he'll be listed as out injured for bruising to the chest

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      On 21/07/2020 at 09:45, forever demons said:

    of topic but does anyone else think when you look at fritta you think of Beavis and butthead

    Yep. Since day one. The likeness is uncanny.

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      On 21/07/2020 at 13:50, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    dropped chest mark from the bullet pass

    he'll be listed as out injured for bruising to the chest

    That was very reminiscent of the old Neitz rubber chest, if you saw him do that early you could just about bank it he’d have a mare. 

    Definitely shouldn’t be dropped though, if Tommy comes in it shouldn’t be at his or Sam’s expense. 

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      On 21/07/2020 at 13:41, DeeSpencer said:

    If the Vanders news is correct then I think we have 5 realistic options:

    1. McDonald in at CHF. Some combination of Bennell, Harmes, Fritsch on a wing.

    2. ANB or Spargo in at half forward. Bennell/Harmes/Fritsch wing

    3. Jones in on the wing and/or half forward.

    4. Tomlinson on the wing

    5. Hunt on a wing.

    The option I like best might actually be Hunt. Attribute wise he's probably the most similar to Vanders in that his speed to cover off defensively is vital. He didn't have the tank to play wing under normal circumstances but with the shorter quarters he can do really short burst rotations. It's the most risky but most upside of the replacements IMO.

    Did I miss something? Is AVB injured? 


      On 21/07/2020 at 22:22, The Jackson 6 said:

    Did I miss something? Is AVB injured? 

    There was talk he broke his jaw vs Hawthorn, but no official anything since so unsure (had the injury report on the AFL website and on the Melbourne website and neither showed it).

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      On 21/07/2020 at 03:46, In Harmes Way said:

    If you're bringing in TMac for Jackson, what part of Jackson's game on Sunday do you point to in order to give him an understanding on why he's being dropped?

    No parts I thought he performed very very well. He stays for mine,I can however see that if TMac is fit he might Just might take the place of Vanders who could be injured or Melksham

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      On 20/07/2020 at 02:06, Ouch! said:
    • Charlie Cameron is a tough match up for us and a key to winning. He is way too fast for Jetta and too good in the air for Lockhart. Joel Smith could be our best match up from an athletic perspective.
    • I still think Jones off half back would make us a better side.

    Fully agree.

      On 22/07/2020 at 02:00, Wunders said:

    There was talk he broke his jaw vs Hawthorn, but no official anything since so unsure (had the injury report on the AFL website and on the Melbourne website and neither showed it).

    His jaw ?

      On 22/07/2020 at 03:27, loges said:

    His jaw ?

    Cheekbone apparently, this is what Goodwindees said in the thread about AVB:

    "Guys, it hasn't been reported yet, but to show you how tough & committed to the cause that Aaron is, he suffered a triple fracture to his cheekbone early in the second quarter and despite blood trickling continually down the inside of his nose & throat he totally downplayed the knock and kept playing."


      On 21/07/2020 at 08:38, The Jackson 6 said:

    2 - 15mm rain forecast for Sunday. Certainly ain’t playing all of the talls. 

    Mainly in morning. Suspect it will clear in arvo and be fine for game time. At least with cloud around it shouldn't be dewy

    Given that we have had very few 40 plus point wins of late why would we change the team. Save rotations for the short turnarounds.

    MFC site has AVB missing 2 weeks now. Confirmed cheek fracture.

    question is making the tough call to go with like for like... or whether they will just try to include TMac.

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    If TMac comes in it can only be for Jackson - and its only due to structure and opposition - otherwise for most other teams he would stay this week.

    If AVB is injured, you can only play Tomlinson on wing.  We tried everyone there last year and all failed dismally.

    Other than that, dont change a winning side unless you have to.

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      On 22/07/2020 at 08:11, Ouch! said:

    MFC site has AVB missing 2 weeks now. Confirmed cheek fracture.

    question is making the tough call to go with like for like... or whether they will just try to include TMac.

    Bugger! Crap time for it to happen as well, credit to @goodwindees for the scoop! 

    I think they will try to squeeze TMac into the team because of this, rotate Weid and Tom as FF/CHF. LJ can play as a bit of jack of all trades role, start him in the forward pocket, give him all ruck time when it’s not Stef Martin, possibly even play him as a midfielder. 

    Really not ideal for AvB, bloke can’t take a trick. 

    Jones and ANB probably in the mix as well. 


    Top work goodwindees. Two weeks would best case scenario you'd think given.

    Negatives: will really miss his aggression, tackling and perhaps most of all the perceived pressure he creates.

    All will be missed against two very good, but pretty young teams. And both games are super important.

    Positives: can still do aerobic work, so can continue to build fitness.

    Wont have to travel and can help look after the kids back at the hub.

    Not his foot.

    Won't miss his woeful kicking in the last few games. Will be fresh When He comes back.

     

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      On 22/07/2020 at 08:18, Pates said:

    Bugger! Crap time for it to happen as well, credit to @goodwindees for the scoop! 

    I think they will try to squeeze TMac into the team because of this, rotate Weid and Tom as FF/CHF. LJ can play as a bit of jack of all trades role, start him in the forward pocket, give him all ruck time when it’s not Stef Martin, possibly even play him as a midfielder. 

    Really not ideal for AvB, bloke can’t take a trick. 

    Jones and ANB probably in the mix as well. 

    As the late john kennedy would say. Its only the head and he could still run and kick.

    But good news its not his foot. Will be welcomed straight back.

     
      On 22/07/2020 at 08:32, binman said:

    Positives: can still do aerobic work, so can continue to build fitness.

    Wont have to travel and can help look after the kids back at the hub.

    Not his foot.

    Won't miss his woeful kicking in the last few games. Will be fresh When He comes back.

     

    additional positive - 2 weeks of skills practice

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      On 22/07/2020 at 08:14, BScotti said:

    If TMac comes in it can only be for Jackson - and its only due to structure and opposition - otherwise for most other teams he would stay this week.

    If AVB is injured, you can only play Tomlinson on wing.  We tried everyone there last year and all failed dismally.

    Other than that, dont change a winning side unless you have to.

    As much as I love AVB I reckon Tomlinson makes our side better anyway. But regardless fully agree that tmac only comes in for jackson and its not a call I would make for this week.

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