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  On 25/09/2019 at 06:29, Lucifer's Hero said:

Very pleased we have kept Baker, Dunkley, Lockhart and Chandler.

 

Chandler won't make it, neither will Baker, undecided on Dunkley and Lockhart maybe good depth.

Nothing pleasing there for me, very underwhelming...

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      On 25/09/2019 at 07:25, rjay said:

    Chandler won't make it, neither will Baker, undecided on Dunkley and Lockhart maybe good depth.

    Nothing pleasing there for me, very underwhelming...

    Chandler, Dunkley and Lockhart are all Rookies.  The latter two weren't on AFL list at the start of the season.  They showed glimpses and would like to see what a preseason does for them.  We have plenty of Rookie spots if we want to add more so keeping them is no issue.  Rookies are a long shot at the best of times.

    Don't know enough about Chandler.  Baker has been injured most of the time so too early to delist imv.

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    The Tigers after 2016 were criticised for not making a heap of list changes, they got in Nank, Prestia and Caddy, but at that stage they weren't seen as a massive boost (Prestia had the biggest wraps but little to no other suitors). Of course 2017 rolls around, they have a blessed run with injuries and because the group had been together they took it out. 

    Not saying I'm convinced but glad the club doesn't overreact like all on here. Bringing in Langdon, Tomlinson and maybe Elliot or someone else might be all we need.

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      On 25/09/2019 at 06:21, dazzledavey36 said:

    I am a amazed we have signed Josh Wagner to another year... talk about ypur genuine list clogger.

    How many available spots do we have left on our list?

    tell me we didn't..........please

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      On 25/09/2019 at 07:34, Red and Blue realist said:

    The Tigers after 2016 were criticised for not making a heap of list changes, they got in Nank, Prestia and Caddy, but at that stage they weren't seen as a massive boost (Prestia had the biggest wraps but little to no other suitors). Of course 2017 rolls around, they have a blessed run with injuries and because the group had been together they took it out. 

    Not saying I'm convinced but glad the club doesn't overreact like all on here. Bringing in Langdon, Tomlinson and maybe Elliot or someone else might be all we need.

    Even Prestia wasn't seen as a huge signing. Huge question marks over his kicking at the time. Now set to be B&F in a flag year.

    Caddy as well. Houli was on the brink. Huge question marks over Dusty resigning. 

    A lot more changed for Richmond that preseason than a few list changes. 

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      On 25/09/2019 at 07:25, bingers said:

    Wagners are not AFL standard. Hopefully they are on minimum (or close to minimum) coin.

    Corey > Josh

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      On 25/09/2019 at 07:39, praha said:

    Even Prestia wasn't seen as a huge signing. Huge question marks over his kicking at the time. Now set to be B&F in a flag year.

    Caddy as well. Houli was on the brink. Huge question marks over Dusty resigning. 

    A lot more changed for Richmond that preseason than a few list changes. 

    Drugs?

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      On 25/09/2019 at 01:23, BigMacjnr said:

    While ordinarily I would agree with you. He is a quick and skillful midfielder/wing that we are playing off half back. Either play him in his best position or trade him out and upgrade talent of the list. We don't need Ollie Wines but I rate him higher than an underutilised Salem. Big club mentality is not to overrate your own players and take advantage of unexpected opportunities when they arise. 

    My preferred option would be to trade back what would be 3+37 to possible Geelong picks: 6 + 16. Would also look at Hunt + Salem for Wines and then trade back pick 3 for 6 + 16. Need to give something to get something. 

    If the coaching staff surprise me and allow Salem to have a bigger role as a mid who rests in the backline then I wouldn't trade him.   

    All well and good, but WTF would you trade in Wines and get rid of Salem? If you're going to trade value, trade in value. Wines is an okay player, but he doesn't address a key need. He's a contested player, with ordinary skills.

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      On 25/09/2019 at 06:44, Demons11 said:

    I’d take Wagner over Stretch.  

    So would I.

    Except that Josh Wagner is a back, and Stretch is a ... well, let's say wing. If Jetta and Hibberd are unavailable, who covers for them? We have been using Lewis down there, but he's gone as well, so?

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      On 25/09/2019 at 06:32, dazzledavey36 said:

    Agree.

    Signing Josh Wagner to a new deal but telling Stretch he has to wait.. Stretch is far better player then Wagner. Wagner should have sat right next to Keilty and Garlett as delisted players.

    On ya Mahoney..

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    Stretch played 9 games this year. both Wagners played more games than he did. plus its common knowledge we are chasing a couple of winger types this trade period, and we just signed Baker for 2 more years. so with that in mind i'm a bit surprised people think Stretch should be kept around. he had plenty of opportunity to make the wing his own, but he wasn't up to it.

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    Everyone carry on about the players signing on, need to understand that every team needs depth.   The majority of those signed are also in the right age bracket to keep on improving.  

    As much as everyone would like it, you can’t have 40 superstars on your list. 

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    Jack Trengove has been delisted by Port Adelaide.

    What an amazingly sad fall from grace.

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      On 25/09/2019 at 09:22, dazzledavey36 said:

    Jack Trengove has been delisted by Port Adelaide.

    What an amazingly sad fall from grace.

    Completely forgot he was still on PA’s list!

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      On 25/09/2019 at 07:39, praha said:

    Even Prestia wasn't seen as a huge signing. Huge question marks over his kicking at the time. Now set to be B&F in a flag year.

    Caddy as well. Houli was on the brink. Huge question marks over Dusty resigning. 

    A lot more changed for Richmond that preseason than a few list changes. 

    Spot on, but had they made massive wholesale changes to their playing personnel would they have been able to make those other adjustments? It's A lot easier to make game plan changes when the team are already very familiar with each other.

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    So the MFC hierarchy rate Josh Wagner over pick 60 something in the draft. He's never been terrible when he comes in. I can live with that.

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      On 25/09/2019 at 08:42, Demon Dude said:

    Stretch played 9 games this year. both Wagners played more games than he did. plus its common knowledge we are chasing a couple of winger types this trade period, and we just signed Baker for 2 more years. so with that in mind i'm a bit surprised people think Stretch should be kept around. he had plenty of opportunity to make the wing his own, but he wasn't up to it.

    I would have to disagree with this. Stretch played exclusively as an inside mid at Casey and would get a call-up to the seniors and be plonked on the wing or half back line or wherever there was a hole. Regardless of his ability or lack thereof, it's going to be damn hard to stake your claim on that basis. If he was going to play on the wing in the seniors, when we were crying out for wingers, why not let him play there at Casey to give him the chance to slot right in?

    The main issue is his total inability to play on 'at all cost'. I have no idea why, as when it's a play on situation he has no problem at all and routinely finds an option. When he takes a mark or gets a free kick, he pretty much freezes.  Not sure why but wouldn't be surprised if it's

     

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      On 25/09/2019 at 09:44, IWAP said:

    So the MFC hierarchy rate Josh Wagner over pick 60 something in the draft. He's never been terrible when he comes in. I can live with that.

    He's been about as close to terrible as a slow limited player who doesn't hit his targets (despite being a very good kick) can be.

    To me the only way to see the positives in retaining Josh Wagner is to think of him as a leader down at Casey and to recognise the club is valuing experience on the list and culture.

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      On 25/09/2019 at 06:59, Lucifer's Hero said:

    State of the list:

    • We have 4 senior list spots atm.  Frost, Stretch and JKH still uncontracted. 

               That is a potential max of 7 spots available.

    • We are obliged to take at least 3 from the draft.  It looks like Langdon and Tomlinson are over the line. 

                That leaves a max of 2 spots. 

    • Elliot might be one. 

                Leaving 1 spot. 

    • Someone from GWS pick 2 split, perhaps?

    I still wouldn't be surprised if we trade out a contracted player...

    I thought we were obliged to turn over 3 from our list??? Could be trades, rookie upgrades or draft. Not 100% sure though.

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      On 25/09/2019 at 11:29, Moonshadow said:

    I thought we were obliged to turn over 3 from our list??? Could be trades, rookie upgrades or draft. Not 100% sure though.

    Minimum 3 from the draft, though all 3 could be rookie upgrades and taken with a teams last 3 picks in that draft.

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      On 25/09/2019 at 11:57, Demon Disciple said:

    Minimum 3 from the draft, though all 3 could be rookie upgrades and taken with a teams last 3 picks in that draft.

    Ok, thanks for clarifying

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      On 25/09/2019 at 07:53, The Lobster Effect said:

    Corey > Josh

    Totally agree. 

    I actually think Corey could end up cementing a best 22 spot as a small foreforward.

     Showed a bit this year. Competitive little bugger and is my surrounded by better players than this year could go up a level.

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      On 25/09/2019 at 12:55, binman said:

    Totally agree. 

    I actually think Corey could end up cementing a best 22 spot as a small foreforward.

     Showed a bit this year. Competitive little bugger and is my surrounded by better players than this year could go up a level.

    Disagree, but hope you're right mate.

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