Dees interested in Roughead

[Willmoy1947 4,085]

10 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Obviously a 'wish list' on the 3 forwards suggestion JD.  Can't see any of them, other than maybe Rooey, on big multiples of current media $, coming down for a short stint.

We could do alot worse than surround ourselves with a 'Hawthorn' biased crew of assistants and line coaches IMV JD.  I would be ecstatic to see a combo of Lewey, Roughy and Hodge join us.

What an amazing get Hodgey would be,  not just for his experience, footy knowledge and a succession option (whether Goody makes it or not) but also the drawing power those three would have getting potential top line recruits over the line in the super competitive trade circus.

Good one Rusty seeing as none of our old players at Hawks have seemingly expressed interest in their old club's plight......

[DSP 1,488]

Massive yes from me.

Premiership experience. Leader. Knows his craft.

Get it done Dee's.

[monoccular 17,425]

18 hours ago, Demon Dude said:

We could do worse than have Roughie teaching Weideman and Petty the finer details about forward craft. Maybe he can teach our coach too.

What a great move that would be, either on field or off field.

Could he take CP5 aside and show him how to kick too?

[Bitter but optimistic 22,239]

Roughy is champ - no doubt about

He’s also been through some tough personal [censored]. So apart from knowing a bit about footy he also knows a bit about resilience 

Bonus.  He seems to be a decent bloke

Yep.  I’d have him as a forward line coach in a flash!

[Ethan Tremblay 30,856]

Only if we can’t get an ex-backline player to come to us as forward coach then I’d consider Roughy. 

[Deemania since 56 6,634]

19 hours ago, Demon Dude said:

We could do worse than have Roughie teaching Weideman and Petty the finer details about forward craft. Maybe he can teach our coach too.

Bluddoath!

[Fork 'em 6,983]

Roughie and Hodge are probably both already out've our price range.
We go for the no name assistants.

[Mach5 4,767]

Roughead a chance, but Lewis will continue further down media street.

[Maldonboy38 6,400]

Huge yes from me. One of my favourite ever players from opposition clubs. Because of all the Buddy, Lewis, Hodge, Mitchell conversations, Roughy's actual supreme football ability gets underscored. 

My question would be - can he communicate what he knows? Can he influence Petracca, Weideman, Hannan etc... in forward craft? 

Great players don't always perform in roles where character and communication are required, but if there is even a sniff of potential with Roughy, go get him.

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 5,118]

Sorry if the second of my paragraphs following is a subject of other threads.

I like the idea of us getting in that 'recent playing/leading Hawksness' (and Yze) as much as anyone, particularly given the characters and cache of those mentioned. And I read Jordan's comments about us (including Goodwin) as sufficiently positive that he at least wouldn't warn the others off. Their interest might also depend on who we get to replace McCartney and whether they can see learnings value there.

BUT, I think fixing our issues should be the driver of who we get to help address them. The guys in this thread MAY be suitable (thoughts?), but their might be someone BETTER (thoughts?) Our eyes alone tell us the big issues - by themselves but also as far as the 'craft' that Roughhead, Lewis and Hodge have - seem to be 1. delivering the ball into F50, both to a player and to a player in a good place, and 2. grabbing it and using it when it gets there (along with 3. having a 2nd and 3rd string forward line for much of the year - but they can't help with that! - and 4. turnovers - who CAN help???) Supporting our eyes - and it's just a simple selection - we rank 5th for I50s, but 11 and 12 teams respectively are ahead of us for R50s and R50s against total points scored, and we rank 1st for ratio of behinds to goals. 

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 5,118]

I realise R50 stats vs US in individual games, rather than teams' year averages, are more relevant (ALL 17 other teams were ahead of us last year in R50s against total points scored, but that reflected (partly) us not letting it GET to the D50 in the first place?) However, that depth of analysis is beyond me! Hence my "the eyes have it", with simple (simplistic?) stats to support it...

[darkhorse72 1,916]

10 hours ago, Maldonboy38 said:

Huge yes from me. One of my favourite ever players from opposition clubs. Because of all the Buddy, Lewis, Hodge, Mitchell conversations, Roughy's actual supreme football ability gets underscored. 

My question would be - can he communicate what he knows? Can he influence Petracca, Weideman, Hannan etc... in forward craft? 

Great players don't always perform in roles where character and communication are required, but if there is even a sniff of potential with Roughy, go get him.

Very true as they may have never needed to struggle to become a great player.

But that vision of him coaching the oppo backman in that VFL stands out for me.  

[Mickey 4,679]

The Hun reporting Roughy will be at St Kilda next year. Apparently interested in list management as opposed to coaching

[Sir Why You Little 37,033]

4 minutes ago, Good Lord George said:

The Hun reporting Roughy will be at St Kilda next year. Apparently interested in list management as opposed to coaching

Yep. My brother just confirmed it 

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

17 minutes ago, Good Lord George said:

The Hun reporting Roughy will be at St Kilda next year. Apparently interested in list management as opposed to coaching

Bugger, Roughy would have been a great help to us. 

He might have a monumental task at Moorabbin managing the list though, they are linked to so many players this off-season they could field 2 AFL teams next year.

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,083]

Fair enough too

[DeeSpencer 25,680]

I get the desire to bring in good people from successful place but what experience does Roughead have in list management? 

I wouldn't be too upset about this one. If I were in charge I'd be spending the list management budget on some smart analytics people to get ahead of the curve as well as experienced recruiters. Mesh the old school with some new school.

[McQueen 17,864]

1 hour ago, Good Lord George said:

The Hun reporting Roughy will be at St Kilda next year. Apparently interested in list management as opposed to coaching

Never rated the bloke anyway. 

[Soidee 1,496]

He worked under Ratten.  That is why he chose Saints.

[Supermercado 2,797]

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

I get the desire to bring in good people from successful place but what experience does Roughead have in list management? 

Doesn't mean he's going to run the show. Would likely be an assistant for a couple of years until they get panicky, sack the incumbent and promote him even if he has no idea.

[Fork 'em 6,983]

Would've been a shame to wreck his career after footy.
Poisoned chalice this joint.

[Mach5 4,767]

15 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

Would've been a shame to wreck his career after footy.
Poisoned chalice this joint.

Pathetic.

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,843]

1 hour ago, Fork 'em said:

Would've been a shame to wreck his career after footy.
Poisoned chalice this joint.

"this joint" . . . as in the MFC?

Nowhere near as bad as Linton Street I would have thought. 

[bluey 1,102]

Couple of years working for Maloney and Viney, nope, you would finish up selling used cars on Sundays, it’s everyone else’s fault, especially that old Macca guy, singlehandedly drove our great club into the ground.

Glad these successful people got to the bottom of it.

[Fork 'em 6,983]

1 hour ago, Mach5 said:

Pathetic.

The club yes.
We've got a long list of destroyed careers.
Both coaching and playing.
Truth hurts.