CHANGES: Rd 21 v Collingwood

[Sorry kids 635]

Last week I predicted a 30 point loss. This week I say with a good coaching performance and a confident bunch of players we can have a win. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,834]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Big Cox Out

 

Preuss’s stocks with respect to playing this week just plummeted.

[Diamond_Jim 12,588]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Big Cox Out

 

In the world of what ifs..... imagine if the Weed had been having a reasonable season and he hadn't signed an extension.

His manager may have been proved right

[Deespicable 2,726]

Only two players in contention for inclusion this week and both must play if fit.

1 ) Marty Hore - what a disgrace that he was left to play VFL last week.

2) May - Obviously depends on him passing his fitness test.

Out: Lever (if injured, but I suspect that he will just be heavily strapped and will be good to go)

O.Mac - if the coach wants to omit Preuss instead, then O.Mac has to play forward and back-up ruck if that is the case. 

C.Wagner - only left out if Lever is fit.

Shock move: I liked how Goody sent Hunt back last week to combat the pacey Tiger smalls and I think this week it's time we tried to get Salem more involved with offense and play him in the mids with job of tagging Sidebottom. 

B: Hunt May Hore

HF: Jones Lever Hibberd

C Baker Brayshaw Salem

HF: Melky Petty Fritsch

F: Petracca Lewis Harmes

Ru: Gawn Oliver Viney

Int: Frost (def), JKH (mid), Dunkley (fwd),  Preuss or O.Mac (ruck/fwd)

[dpositive 1,665]

Play Stretch for every match to see how bad he really is.

[ManDee 7,148]

9 hours ago, dpositive said:

Play Stretch for every match to see how bad he really is.

d+ If you close your eyes and imagine he is playing he will have the same impact. I would rather we went experimental, May and OMac forward with Viney as small forward, Preuss to the backline with Oliver , Gus and Salem on the ball. No tanking here just an in season experiment.

[Maldonboy38 6,403]

We have to play Hore, Petty, Baker, Dunkley and Preuss. They will definitely be at the club next year and need a run of games.

If Lever plays, May stays down back. These two plus Jetta and Hibberd need to play alongside each other to develop the connection that has been missing so much.

Omac. I passionately defended him about 2 years ago here on DL, saying wait until he has developed to 70 games. I waited. His development has taken a massive step back this year. No more games but keep unless another tall back develops.

Long term, I am not hugely impressed by the Wagner boys, so don't mind if they are dropped.

And I actually think we a real good chance against the June premiers Collingwood. 

[beelzebub 23,376]

21 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

We have to play Hore, Petty, Baker, Dunkley and Preuss. They will definitely be at the club next year and need a run of games.

If Lever plays, May stays down back. These two plus Jetta and Hibberd need to play alongside each other to develop the connection that has been missing so much.

Omac. I passionately defended him about 2 years ago here on DL, saying wait until he has developed to 70 games. I waited. His development has taken a massive step back this year. No more games but keep unless another tall back develops.

Long term, I am not hugely impressed by the Wagner boys, so don't mind if they are dropped.

And I actually think we a real good chance against the June premiers Collingwood. 

Good rationale. ..re players.

I fear it's  another Melbourne  2/3 - 3/4 worth of game coming  up.  Unlike us.. they'll  come  to play and refine ahead of finals. 

[In Harmes Way 7,783]

23 hours ago, Demonland said:

Big Cox Out

 

You can get locked up for that.

Someone had to go there...

[binman 42,972]

34 minutes ago, In Harmes Way said:

You can get locked up for that.

Someone had to go there...

Reminded me of one of my favourite Greg Champion songs (an underrated musical treasure)

 

 

[DubDee 25,869]

so Cox pulled out coz he got something in his eye?

soft Cox. grab a tissue and get on with it

[Sorry kids 635]

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

so Cox pulled out coz he got something in his eye?

soft Cox. grab a tissue and get on with it

What a careless thing to say.

[dimmy 1,307]

On 8/4/2019 at 10:11 AM, Deemania since 56 said:

OMac must be dropped for this game - too unable to contest the ball against an opponent, shirks the issues, reliant of chasing whilst getting further and further behind the spoiling zone, creates significant gaps in the backline arriving to the contest after the ball has been marked or delivered by hand and/or foot. 

Yeh, the gate to the members lounge did not work ....is that Omac's fault too !!

[Demon3 2,541]

3 hours ago, Maldonboy38 said:

We have to play Hore, Petty, Baker, Dunkley and Preuss. They will definitely be at the club next year and need a run of games.

If Lever plays, May stays down back. These two plus Jetta and Hibberd need to play alongside each other to develop the connection that has been missing so much.

Omac. I passionately defended him about 2 years ago here on DL, saying wait until he has developed to 70 games. I waited. His development has taken a massive step back this year. No more games but keep unless another tall back develops.

Long term, I am not hugely impressed by the Wagner boys, so don't mind if they are dropped.

And I actually think we a real good chance against the June premiers Collingwood. 

Jetta wont be there for the rest of the year.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Sounds like May will be back, not convinced by the Lever info though going on previous fitness tests.

Injury update: May set to return

I notice they also slipped in a line about Weideman having hip surgery, and not just one operation by the sound of it. Did I miss that previously or is that news to others as well?

[monoccular 17,430]

On 8/5/2019 at 12:48 PM, monoccular said:

Mmmm .. maybe Preuss to follow Cox wherever he goes (assuming he plays - isn't he under some sort of injury cloud?) ..... meaningless game so experiment time.

Too true.  Petty is just starting to show he is learning as a forward: why not leave him there?

 

On 8/5/2019 at 4:04 PM, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Preuss’s stocks with respect to playing this week just plummeted.

I guess that could mean - Cox out, Preuss out.

Who would be Colonwood's back up ruckman?

[DeeSpencer 25,713]

32 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Sounds like May will be back, not convinced by the Lever info though going on previous fitness tests.

Injury update: May set to return

I notice they also slipped in a line about Weideman having hip surgery, and not just one operation by the sound of it. Did I miss that previously or is that news to others as well?

Mid year he missed a couple of weeks and their were rumours he needed hip ops. First I've heard of it since though. Broken jaw may be a blessing in disguise if they were waiting to do them.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

7 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Mid year he missed a couple of weeks and their were rumours he needed hip ops. First I've heard of it since though. Broken jaw may be a blessing in disguise if they were waiting to do them.

Yeah, he had the injury then but I think avoided surgery at the time, but I seem to recall him having hip surgery in his first or second offseason?

[rjay 24,928]

5 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

I notice they also slipped in a line about Weideman having hip surgery, and not just one operation by the sound of it. Did I miss that previously or is that news to others as well?

 

4 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Mid year he missed a couple of weeks and their were rumours he needed hip ops. First I've heard of it since though. Broken jaw may be a blessing in disguise if they were waiting to do them.

 

4 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Yeah, he had the injury then but I think avoided surgery at the time, but I seem to recall him having hip surgery in his first or second offseason?

Interesting, I remember seeing somewhere they said he shouldn't miss too much preseason.

Thought that strange if it was only a broken jaw...

[spirit of norm smith 16,460]

Out. Omcd wagner

in.  May Hore

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,755]

I had been promoting the idea of retaining Preuss purely for the extra support he gives Max in the ruck. However, the weather forecast for Saturday which inlcudes a 95% chance of showers, between 8-15 mm of rain, a chance of thunderstorms, possible hail and snow down to Preuss's eyebrows suggests it might not be the conditions in which to play him. Cox being out also reduces the need for a giant second ruckman. But, if T Smith isn't available and with our other nominal KPFs already out injured, who could give Max the 5 minute break he needs each quarter if Preuss doesn't play? It hasn't worked before, but do we turn to Frost (which coincidentally seems a weather appropriate name)?  

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,834]

Can't use injuries as an excuse this week:

Collingwood missing 9 of their best 22:

De Goey, Stevenson, Beams, Langdon, Sier, Cox, Moore, Aish and Wells (who will return for finals).

Or will the apologists still blame the interrupted pre season, 21 weeks later?

[ArtificialWisdom 4,045]

14 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Can't use injuries as an excuse this week:

Collingwood missing 9 of their best 22:

De Goey, Stevenson, Beams, Langdon, Sier, Cox, Moore, Aish and Wells (who will return for finals).

Or will the apologists still blame the interrupted pre season, 21 weeks later?

As a whole I agree, but you're including Sier as a best 22 player? He couldn't get a game until they had an injury 'crisis'. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,834]

1 hour ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

As a whole I agree, but you're including Sier as a best 22 player? He couldn't get a game until they had an injury 'crisis'. 

Agree in that he didn't get a game in the early rounds when they were up and about. Beams probably took his place.

However, he had an interrupted pre season and was a part of their grand final side last year, so he's certainly in the best 22-26 mix for Collingwood.

[chook fowler 19,459]

I'll spew if OMac and Preuss play. Hore and May are certainties if fit. unbelievable decision not to play Hore last week - i have little faith in the selection process.