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On 5/1/2018 at 11:40 AM, ManDee said:

They may be homophones but they do not mean the same thing. However if the urban dictionary is your source, what more can I say.

I am homophonebic and proud of it. ( I'm scared of words that sound the same as other words)

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3 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

It would make reasonable sense to allow TSmith into the team for a week, to see what he brings and how it can be applied if needed. Most observers indicate that he is a rather willing footballer, and is courageous. Two fine qualities.

I have mentioned this before but i see one game looks, especially in Smith's case where he is likely on his last chance, as a horrible option.  Players coming from the lessor standards and scrappy ovals with the 'generally' less manic / pressured style of VFL, should be given at least 3 weeks to find their feet if they haven't spent much time in the AFL in recent times prior to the call up IMO.  The frenetic pace and increased pressure (less time/space) is supposedly a big step up for most who aren't used to it if you listen to some of the seasoned players talk about the differences.

Obviously if they have two shockers in a row it's going to be a hard ask for the FD to extend their stay beyond 2 weeks but i think you get my drift.

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49 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

I have mentioned this before but i see one game looks, especially in Smith's case where he is likely on his last chance, as a horrible option.  Players coming from the lessor standards and scrappy ovals with the 'generally' less manic / pressured style of VFL, should be given at least 3 weeks to find their feet if they haven't spent much time in the AFL in recent times prior to the call up IMO.  The frenetic pace and increased pressure (less time/space) is supposedly a big step up for most who aren't used to it if you listen to some of the seasoned players talk about the differences.

Obviously if they have two shockers in a row it's going to be a hard ask for the FD to extend their stay beyond 2 weeks but i think you get my drift.

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Tough selection again this week. The selection panel got it right last week. I did not like the look of a team with Fritch, Hannan and Spargo in it or with Lewis, Vince and Jones in it....but it shows I know very little.

Putting that aside, we have one, at least, forced change with Salem out with a sore thumb. His replacement would be simple with Petracca coming in but he is no certainity to pass his fitness test. If Petracca does not get up then Wagner gets back in.

If Hogan comes out with soreness then I would like to see T Smith get a run.

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My gut feeling is that T.Smith and J.Smith will come into the side. We will confuse the oppo. with Smiths and McD running around. Interesting to see as it stand we have pick 43 available to us,perhaps there is another Mac around !!!!!!. Whilst going about nutten much,what is the status with Viney's younger bro?

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On 5/1/2018 at 4:09 PM, shorty said:

Crocodile ,Shark  and Snake pretty unpleasant also

You forgot funnel web, red back, white tail arachnids too ?

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53 minutes ago, Delusional Dee said:

What the Fritsch?

 

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There’s no Salem or Trac on there either. Typo? Wouldn’t stress too much about Fritsch unless it hurts too much from kicking straight.

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6 hours ago, DV8 said:

Vanilla = Pre-breakout game. he hasn't had a breakout game yet and only 2nd season into the system.

Are our mids vanilla?

No. As I said, Tim Smith is.

I've got nothing against him. I think he was simply taken as an understudy to an aging back up KPF in Pedersen.

He doesn't have the tricks to play KPF in the AFL and he won't get a go with Hogan, Weideman and McDonald, so they're trialling him this year as a mid. 

I reckon McDonald's emergence as a genuinely good KPF will seal Smith's fate, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a game if we've got some injuries.

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11 hours ago, A F said:

No. As I said, Tim Smith is.

I've got nothing against him. I think he was simply taken as an understudy to an aging back up KPF in Pedersen.

He doesn't have the tricks to play KPF in the AFL and he won't get a go with Hogan, Weideman and McDonald, so they're trialling him this year as a mid. 

I reckon McDonald's emergence as a genuinely good KPF will seal Smith's fate, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a game if we've got some injuries.

He may not make it, because he is just into a 2nd season in AFL preseasons and development, as a mid 20Yrs player.  But He should have been taken on as rookie, years earlier. Naturally very powerful.

But he came around at a time when the mortons and bennells were getting about, and outside run run run was the call cry.  I hope he gets a go and makes a big impression as I think he can be in the Archer/Rooke style.

 

Pre making it, I bet those guys were labeled 'Vanilla', as well.

But he is up against it. I agree.

 I see him in quite a different role to the traditional key tall forwards,  and who's to say he cannot play back as well.

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7 minutes ago, SFebey said:

Just on Petracca, am I the only one who thinks he’s stuck in cruse mode/second gear?

I suspect he is a bit like most young men of his age (indeed as i was) and is still relaxed about things generally, of course we may be mistaking his chirpy relaxed and cheeky style to mean he is not putting in 100% however I suspect Goodwin would be onto that pretty quickly.  I suspect the reason JW was moved on was that Goodwin felt he would always just rely on his talent and didnt push himself hard enough. 

Your view may also be generated from the fact we all know we haven't seen all of his upside yet. 

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11 minutes ago, Robbie57 said:

I suspect he is a bit like most young men of his age (indeed as i was) and is still relaxed about things generally, of course we may be mistaking his chirpy relaxed and cheeky style to mean he is not putting in 100% however I suspect Goodwin would be onto that pretty quickly.  I suspect the reason JW was moved on was that Goodwin felt he would always just rely on his talent and didnt push himself hard enough. 

Your view may also be generated from the fact we all know we haven't seen all of his upside yet. 

We know the Petracca has talent to burn and that unlike others he is a potential match winner.

I suspect that it has come easily for him.  

There is a reason why many great AFL footballers have come from the country.  Tough, no frills upbringing, lots of no nonsense adults, and a strong determination to succeed. 

That does not preclude private school boys from making it.  Toby Greene went to Wesley, Jack Viney to Carey, and many others from Xavier and other schools (often the benefit of sporting scholarships).

However, the key attributes needed to succeed go to the core of the person-

A strong desire to succeed.

A single-minded obsession to be the best you can be.

Leaving no stone unturned in pursuit of your goal.

Willing to work on all aspects of your game, particularly any weaknesses.

A preparedness to take that extra step in training, lifestyle, injury management etc.

To word as hard as you can on the training track. With the analogy of athletics, "to race as you train."

Discipline, will, resilience.

To be fully professional in all aspects of your chosen sport and life. 

To be well grounded.

Learn from your mistakes.

Most players that make an AFL list are talented. However, talent alone is never enough. 

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, hemingway said:

We know the Petracca has talent to burn and that unlike others he is a potential match winner.

I suspect that it has come easily for him.  

There is a reason why many great AFL footballers have come from the country.  Tough, no frills upbringing, lots of no nonsense adults, and a strong determination to succeed. 

That does not preclude private school boys from making it.  Toby Greene went to Wesley, Jack Viney to Carey, and many others from Xavier and other schools (often the benefit of sporting scholarships).

However, the key attributes needed to succeed go to the core of the person-

A strong desire to succeed.

A single-minded obsession to be the best you can be.

Leaving no stone unturned in pursuit of your goal.

Willing to work on all aspects of your game, particularly any weaknesses.

A preparedness to take that extra step in training, lifestyle, injury management etc.

To word as hard as you can on the training track. With the analogy of athletics, "to race as you train."

Discipline, will, resilience.

To be fully professional in all aspects of your chosen sport and life. 

To be well grounded.

Learn from your mistakes.

Most players that make an AFL list are talented. However, talent alone is never enough. 

 

 

 

Ernest Hemingway...is that really you? Ernest Hemingway was known for his "simple, direct, unadorned prose"

(I'd love now to include the story or how Hemingway described his wife to a friend. It was certainly simple and direct, but not suitable for this site.)

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1 hour ago, SFebey said:

Just on Petracca, am I the only one who thinks he’s stuck in cruse mode/second gear?

I agree.

I also think he's gotten ahead of himself. I get the impression he thinks/knows he's an A grader that will soon become elite, while in reality he's overall output is that of a B grader so far. For example, he's missed far too many shots for goal this year.

I like what he's produced so far, but do think he's overrated in context to his performances, especially to start this season.

I remember a host on either SEN or 3AW mentioned that Petracca was aiming to be a Hall of Fame player. That pricked my ears.

Lastly, I can't believe I'm saying this but I feel Salem is a bigger loss than Petracca (assuming he doesn't get up this week) for the time being. We'll miss Salem's solid ball use while Petracca's can be a bit hit and miss.

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28 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Ernest Hemingway...is that really you? Ernest Hemingway was known for his "simple, direct, unadorned prose"

(I'd love now to include the story or how Hemingway described his wife to a friend. It was certainly simple and direct, but not suitable for this site.)

Thanks for the reminder.

As you know, since those days, I have lost my way. I found there are very few reasons to continue living. The thought of a warm bed, a loving woman and a bottle of liquor no longer interest me. The beast has been tamed. 

Living in near isolation, the lack of companionship has meant that my writings on this site tend to ramble. In fact I forget what I have written within 5 minutes.  If I do reread my comments, it is mostly with embarrassment.

My comments on this site are just a way of passing time. However, I am attracted to the passion, the obsession and sheer craziness of the characters that inhabit this place.  They remind me of some of the characters that I have met and written about. 

 

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2 hours ago, SFebey said:

Just on Petracca, am I the only one who thinks he’s stuck in cruse mode/second gear?

 

47 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I agree.

I also think he's gotten ahead of himself. I get the impression he thinks/knows he's an A grader that will soon become elite, while in reality he's overall output is that of a B grader so far. For example, he's missed far too many shots for goal this year.

I like what he's produced so far, but do think he's overrated in context to his performances, especially to start this season.

I remember a host on either SEN or 3AW mentioned that Petracca was aiming to be a Hall of Fame player. That pricked my ears.

Lastly, I can't believe I'm saying this but I feel Salem is a bigger loss than Petracca (assuming he doesn't get up this week) for the time being. We'll miss Salem's solid ball use while Petracca's can be a bit hit and miss.

His first three rounds I seem to recall he had very solid matches.  The next two, well obviously the whole team was done like a dog's dinner.  Maybe he bit off more than he could chew and is now licking his wounds.

Every dog has its day though and I'm sure he will be back on Tracc, maybe as soon as this weekend, with another 'best in show' performance.

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1 hour ago, Robbie57 said:

I suspect he is a bit like most young men of his age (indeed as i was) and is still relaxed about things generally, of course we may be mistaking his chirpy relaxed and cheeky style to mean he is not putting in 100% however I suspect Goodwin would be onto that pretty quickly.  I suspect the reason JW was moved on was that Goodwin felt he would always just rely on his talent and didnt push himself hard enough. 

Your view may also be generated from the fact we all know we haven't seen all of his upside yet. 

he's still a boy,,, about to turn into a man. 

Gerard Healey turned into a man, when he went to Sydney.

 

Physical maturity plays a part, and the realisation of power helps, then the mind takes over.

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19 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Thanks for the reminder.

As you know, since those days, I have lost my way. I found there are very few reasons to continue living. The thought of a warm bed, a loving woman and a bottle of liquor no longer interest me. The beast has been tamed. 

Living in near isolation, the lack of companionship has meant that my writings on this site tend to ramble. In fact I forget what I have written within 5 minutes.  If I do reread my comments, it is mostly with embarrassment.

My comments on this site are just a way of passing time. However, I am attracted to the passion, the obsession and sheer craziness of the characters that inhabit this place.  They remind me of some of the characters that I have met and written about. 

 

Women have changed, just like the game is.

 

People and power, watta lousy mix...  aggressive power is a thing of ugliness.

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