Opposition Watch: Rd 1 vs Geelong

[McQueen 17,864]

15 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

He’s officially the first person to take until Wednesday for basic hammy scan results. 

I’m surprised someone with James Brown’s cape didn’t come and drape it over Dramafield’s shoulders and lift him off the ground outside the clinic. 

"Dramafield"...

pmsl.

New vocab.

[McQueen 17,864]

If Ablett plays, don't expect him to be spending too much time at ball-ups.

 

[Dee Zephyr 17,757]

None the wiser.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/03/14/cats-provide-update-on-dangerfields-hamstring

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,293]

Got this off the Sport Medicine Aust. website:

Rehabilitation and return to play
As a general rule, Grade 1 hamstring strains should be rested from sporting activity for about three weeks

So given they've confirmed he has a low strain, it would be a huge risk him returning in 2 weeks.

I get the impression Geelong think they're hopeless without Dangerfield (as evidenced by their bad loss to Sydney last year) and are willing to roll the dice.

 

[Binmans PA 26,270]

7 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

This is where not checking facts then making statements that are wrong, then another hack also does not check facts believes said statement, then many also don't check stats, furthers falsehoods, then many believe it and are all hacks, we won clearances by 41 to 38, now that's half the story, we won centre clearances by 20 to 12, winning centre clearances is more important then stoppages, because it often leads to inside 50's, also there are less players in a centre clearances then a stoppage, in a stoppage there are so many players around the ball and so those hitouts are more 50 50 in who wins the clearances.

Taps to advantage? What were those stats in the first half in comparison to hit outs? Gawn is one of the tallest ruckmen. He should be winning the majority of hit outs. It's the effectiveness of those hit outs that concerns me. 

I could go on but it's a new season, so I'll reserve further judgement for a couple of H&A games.

[Demon trucker 1,776]

15 minutes ago, A F said:

Taps to advantage? What were those stats in the first half in comparison to hit outs? Gawn is one of the tallest ruckmen. He should be winning the majority of hit outs. It's the effectiveness of those hit outs that concerns me. 

I could go on but it's a new season, so I'll reserve further judgement for a couple of H&A games.

In his all Australian year he was number 1 for hit out to advantage

[Demonland 65,733]

If this was a Melbourne player he'd be out for 6 weeks. Geelong are confident he will play in 11 days.

[Jaded No More 58,411]

Just now, Demonland said:

If this was a Melbourne player he'd be out for 6 weeks. Geelong are confident he will play in 11 days.

Either way it will be a risk, and I hope we tested him out during the game!

[Demons11 6,404]

2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

If this was a Melbourne player he'd be out for 6 weeks. Geelong are confident he will play in 11 days.

There is no chance he plays. Standard hammy strain is 3 weeks.  

[Demonland 65,733]

Just now, Jaded said:

Either way it will be a risk, and I hope we tested him out during the game!

No sure how we can test that out. It's not like Viney can scream at his hammy. *

* I am aware that Viney is not playing Round 1.

[Jaded No More 58,411]

Just now, Demonland said:

No sure how we can test that out. It's not like Viney can scream at his hammy. *

* I am aware that Viney is not playing Round 1.

You can play Hunt on him and see how fast he can run to try and catch him 

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,293]

2 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

There is no chance he plays. Standard hammy strain is 3 weeks.  

He may play if they're desperate for him to be out there. They know they're nowhere near as good without him.

But you're right. Players only miss 1-2 weeks if it's hamstring tightness or awareness. Danger has a confirmed strain so it's hard to believe he'd come back after missing just 1 week.

[Demonland 65,733]

Of course he'll play. He has super human recuperative powers. This is the same guy that miraculously recovered from a severe concussion after that Trengove tackle and kicked 6 goals the next week.

[Demons11 6,404]

Just now, Bring-Back-Powell said:

He may play if they're desperate for him to be out there. They know they're nowhere near as good without him.

But you're right. Players only miss 1-2 weeks if it's hamstring tightness or awareness. Danger has a confirmed strain so it's hard to believe he'd come back after missing just 1 week.

100% and it’s only round 1.  If he hurts it again, he will miss 4-6 weeks.  

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

"Rehabilitation and return to play"

"Timeframes for rehabilitation and return to sport vary depending on the nature and severity of the strain.  As a general rule, Grade 1 hamstring strains should be rested from sporting activity for about three weeks.."

http://sma.org.au/resources-advice/injury-fact-sheets/hamstring-strain/

 

Geelong will play games right up until Sunday's match I imagine. But there's no way they're going to risk the best player in the competition for a single match of a home and away season. 

He won't be playing and neither will Stanley.

Both grade 1 tears. Both highly susceptible to reinjury if they come back too early. Think about how much wear and tear there is on the body when playing a full AFL game on the G?

 

 

 

[The Chazz 4,077]

31 minutes ago, A F said:

Taps to advantage? What were those stats in the first half in comparison to hit outs? Gawn is one of the tallest ruckmen. He should be winning the majority of hit outs. It's the effectiveness of those hit outs that concerns me. 

I could go on but it's a new season, so I'll reserve further judgement for a couple of H&A games.

Please don't tell me part of your counter argument to DMMA is that because Gawn is one of the tallest ruck men, that he should win the majority of taps?

Please tell me I'm interpreting this wrong.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

46 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Got this off the Sport Medicine Aust. website:

Rehabilitation and return to play
As a general rule, Grade 1 hamstring strains should be rested from sporting activity for about three weeks

So given they've confirmed he has a low strain, it would be a huge risk him returning in 2 weeks.

I get the impression Geelong think they're hopeless without Dangerfield (as evidenced by their bad loss to Sydney last year) and are willing to roll the dice.

 

I may as well have quoted your post word-for-word.

I'll start scrolling up from now..

[Mazer Rackham 14,970]

Don't obsess over either Danger or Ablett. Our boys will have to play a team of 22 who will be just as keen to win as us.

We need to be switched on no matter who they send out to get the season off to a flying start. It's more about what's upstairs than their exact lineup.

[Deemania since 56 6,188]

42 minutes ago, A F said:

Taps to advantage? What were those stats in the first half in comparison to hit outs? Gawn is one of the tallest ruckmen. He should be winning the majority of hit outs. It's the effectiveness of those hit outs that concerns me. 

I could go on but it's a new season, so I'll reserve further judgement for a couple of H&A games.

Worthy of consideration; thought a few things about those 'taps' and distances/direction - very easy for opponents to 'read' and to intercept effectively. Keenan was a great tapper both left and right, forwards and backwards, and using either hand. He kept'em guessing and unsure of where he was aiming. Great for his rovers and midfielders. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,293]

11 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

I may as well have quoted your post word-for-word.

I'll start scrolling up from now..

And it must be frustrating because you went to all that effort of providing the link.

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,177]

30 minutes ago, Demonland said:

If this was a Melbourne player he'd be out for 6 weeks. Geelong are confident he will play in 11 days.

And I would agree with Melbourne's approach.  

If they rush Dangerfield back for round one, it shows they have very little confidence in their depth and supporting players.  A player of his value needs to play close to every game this year for them to make the finals (he's that good).  If he re-injures his hamstring round one, it'll spell disaster for 2018.

 

(With all that said, I don't think he'll play round one - it'd be lunacy)

[In Harmes Way 7,583]

38 minutes ago, Jaded said:

You can play Hunt on him and see how fast he can run to try and catch him 

[Dingo 813]

For what it’s worth:I was at my physiotherapy centre this morning.My physio was talking to a senior physio about Danger.The senior bloke said he has heard that Danger has back related hammy issues and there is no way he should play against the Dees.This was in Bentleigh not Geelong.

[Guest]

We are a chance, no doubt.

However, what does that really mean?

People get surly when Slobbo (who admittedly is a tool) or Lordo say we won't make the 8. We shouldn't give two hoots about that.

Likewise, we shouldn't care either if people are pumping up our tyres. We know where our journey has taken us. We don't need people's opinions to validate what we are.

Remember Ron Barassi's quote about where natural ability comes from and why you shouldn't be proud of it!

Edited March 14, 2018 by Colin B. Flaubert

[DubDee 20,913]

Great!  Danger is out.  Absolutely no chance anyone comes back earlier than 3 weeks for a hammy.  especially not the best player in the league in round 1.  I usually dont worry too much about who is playing for the opposition but there is no bigger one-man team than geelong