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Yes, no and no.

As the research continues to come in on the effects of concussion, the AFL will want to be seen to doing something. The something it does might not initially be the right something, but it can't be seen to be doing nothing, and won't reverse the changes it makes even once shown to be ineffective.

Expect Gus will always wear the helmet. The psychological benefit for him will become entrenched and he will see no benefit in attempting to wean off it (and nor do I).

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I would think the AFL might eventually make it compulsory for say 3 or 4 weeks following a player receiving a concussion, just to be seen to be doing something more than anything. Doesn't Gus wear it to put his mother mind at ease?

On a side note, the picture shows Gus playing against Carlton in our new tops (with Zurich as a sponsor), have I missed a game????

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19 minutes ago, Nasher said:

As the research continues to come in on the effects of concussion, the AFL will want to be seen to doing something. The something it does might not initially be the right something, but it can't be seen to be doing nothing, and won't reverse the changes it makes even once shown to be ineffective.

The AFL are worried that more people wearing helmets will actually lead to more head injuries as players put their heads in to more dangerous positions thinking they are protected.

This is a fact by the way, not an opinion.

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16 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

I would think the AFL might eventually make it compulsory for say 3 or 4 weeks following a player receiving a concussion, just to be seen to be doing something more than anything. Doesn't Gus wear it to put his mother mind at ease?

On a side note, the picture shows Gus playing against Carlton in our new tops (with Zurich as a sponsor), have I missed a game????

Have you already forgotten our glorious aflx premiership run begun against the blues??

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44 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

This would be about as popular and useful as the sub rule.

The AFL will absolutely do it as they are run by idiots.

Could only give you 1xthumbs up via the demonland reactionary emojis, so i had to go get some of my own Trac.

???

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54 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

How’s it working out for NFL players..?

Bad example. In the NFL they both have helmets with hard outer casing that they use as a weapon and a target.

Soft helmets like what Gus is wearing will offer very limited help to actually receiving concussions, same as NFL helmets, they do not stop the brain rattling around inside the skull itself.

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I don't think we'll see the AFL say that all AFL players must start wearing helmets tomorrow. It will gradually happen very slowly over time.

It's more like that it will start at the grass roots. First it will be compulsory for juniors to wear it and as they grow up they will still be required to wear them.

And when they are all "grown up" they will have been wearing them their whole "careers" and the rule will follow them.

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No helmet can prevent concussions. There's no way to keep the brain from moving inside the skull. If you hit your head hard enough, your brain can bang into the hard bone and cause a concussion. Some "special" sports helmets and other new products claim that they can protect you from concussions.

 

google would have informed blighty that his view isn’t correct before his mouth made him look like a rats tossbag

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1 hour ago, Nasher said:

Yes, no and no.

As the research continues to come in on the effects of concussion, the AFL will want to be seen to doing something. The something it does might not initially be the right something, but it can't be seen to be doing nothing, and won't reverse the changes it makes even once shown to be ineffective.

Expect Gus will always wear the helmet. The psychological benefit for him will become entrenched and he will see no benefit in attempting to wean off it (and nor do I).

 

But they'll have to balance that with all the players looking silly and therefore reducing the marketability of their product.

And then they'll probably start selling the helmets as advertising space to offset those concerns.

Then we can all recognise our favourite players not by their number or face but by their highly visible (and lucrative) helmet sponsor.

Then the commentators will start making up ludicrous player nick-names based on those sponsors.

"Subway kicks to BMW, but his kick is cut off by Dominos! He should have put a bit more sauce on that kick eh?"

We'll never get rid of BT. He'll be hailed as a comedic genius.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll see myself out.

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23 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Bad example. In the NFL they both have helmets with hard outer casing that they use as a weapon and a target.

Soft helmets like what Gus is wearing will offer very limited help to actually receiving concussions, same as NFL helmets, they do not stop the brain rattling around inside the skull itself.

My point exactly.

NFL has huge issues with player concussions.

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23 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

My point exactly.

NFL has huge issues with player concussions.

There has been a new helmet developed in the States that is being trialled in the NFL,  which is made of a softer material and is designed to buckle like a car bumper. Not sure if it's effective but it received top marks in the testing the NFL did recently. It was also named one of Time's 25 top inventions of 2017 (which is where I read about it). 

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Rugby have been less and less tolerant of high hits over the last couple of years. Weekend 1 of this season it was zero tolerance ie yellow and red cards a plenty even for a non-swinging arm/intentional or not/player slipped before the tackle or not, anything with an arm high or a shoulder hitting the head it was yellows and reds.

90% of fans and commentators were in uproar, but it totally the right intent. You can’t scramble the brain. That’s what AFL needs and will go to. 

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Medical science now considers that every incidence of  concussion leads to brain damage. In the long term our code is doomed because courts will eventually spell this out toz sporting administrations. Anyone who saw what Daniel Bell went through would not want to see the likes of Brayshaw and others being exposed to the same thing, in the name of sport.

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The AFL just love tinkering with the rules. I can see the Health and Safety police division getting up in arms and then hey presto they’re all wearing helmets. Might as well give them padding and let them throw the ball as well.

the game has been played for 160 years without helmets, but this won’t count for jack. ([censored], not Watts)

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4 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

No helmet can prevent concussions. There's no way to keep the brain from moving inside the skull. If you hit your head hard enough, your brain can bang into the hard bone and cause a concussion. Some "special" sports helmets and other new products claim that they can protect you from concussions.

 

google would have informed blighty that his view isn’t correct before his mouth made him look like a rats tossbag

Way too fact based for modern society. 

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