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2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

$cully was an ordinary pick. He is small and chip kicks everywhere. He has great endurance which has come back into favour given the restrictions on interchange but oterwise he was an ordinary number 1 pick.

If we were picking today with our current recruiting team between Oliver, Wines and $cully, $cully would be a distant third

Yes  we wished we picked dusty, but the recruiters look too much into a boys home life, that why dusty went 3 and why buddy went 5 in his draft.

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3 hours ago, nosoupforme said:

We had Ollie and was to join Melbourne  at pick 4 and to be with his close mate in Jack Viney. GWS had the first 3 picks in the National Draft and Melbourne  had pick no 4.which  came from GWS   for an uncontracted player compensation pick, that happened to be for Scully. Toumpas was to be picked up early and fell through to pick 4. Todd Viney and co decided to pick Toumpas ahead of  Ollie  and he slipped through to Pick 7.

Note! After picking Toumpas at 4 the next pick at 5 was Jake Stringer,   WHAT IF?  GOD HELP US !

Toumpas was sh*t even before the draft. I thought he was hopeless in the Nationals that year, but like myself and many on footy sites, perhaps the recruiters got sucked in by the hype. I know I did. I watched the Nationals of Toumpas and came away thinking that kid is useless I hope we don't pick him, but then after the chatter elsewhere you start to buy into the hype. Wines on the otherhand was exceptional in the Nationals, and is the player he is now. It was bad drafting and our drafting experts were no better than us mugs when assessing players those bad years.

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3 hours ago, jnrmac said:

$cully was an ordinary pick. He is small and chip kicks everywhere. He has great endurance which has come back into favour given the restrictions on interchange but oterwise he was an ordinary number 1 pick.

If we were picking today with our current recruiting team between Oliver, Wines and $cully, $cully would be a dist

$cully had probably proved to be the best of our 1st rounders from Bailey/Neeld era. Still has about 5 years left in the tank

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Surely we have decent cap space? Vince is on the way out at the end of the season and even then i doubt he is on massive wages. Also Lewis is done within a year or two. Does anyone have any sources as to what our players are on? I feel like if we are close to topping out our cap space with our current squad than that's a massive error. We overpaid for Lever yes, but our only star right now is Hogan and he isn't on a million a year. We should also be saving cap space for new deals for the younger potential players. It's noticable that with the new rise to the cap that Petracca and Oliver got new deals straight away.

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9 hours ago, Rocky said:

just imagine viney and wines pushing each other in the midfield..then add oliver and petracca. i think the dees should move heaven and highwater to get ollie.

IF IF IF IF IF!!

IF we picked up Ollie, who know we may have won a few more and missed on Clarrie?

Too many IFs.  

IF we picked Dusty, Buddy etc etc.  

Water under the bridge.  

 

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10 hours ago, monoccular said:

IF IF IF IF IF!!

IF we picked up Ollie, who know we may have won a few more and missed on Clarrie?

Too many IFs.  

IF we picked Dusty, Buddy etc etc.  

Water under the bridge.  

 

mate. i was referring to picking wines up in the future. not in a previous draft. he can join our current boys.

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How are people proposing we get Wines? We’ve got no first round pick to trade this year, and have to use next years first rounder in the draft, as we haven’t used one since 2015 draft. Unless we’re trading a gun of our own like Petracca or Oliver, then we have no way of getting him across.

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23 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

How are people proposing we get Wines? We’ve got no first round pick to trade this year, and have to use next years first rounder in the draft, as we haven’t used one since 2015 draft. Unless we’re trading a gun of our own like Petracca or Oliver, then we have no way of getting him across.

magic beans?

wines is going nowhere - will be their next skipper

i fully expect we may target a free agent - gaff, dahlhaus, lynch (unlikely unless we lose hogan), etc. - as vince is ooc and we need to keep bringing talent in in order to get better

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23 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

How are people proposing we get Wines? We’ve got no first round pick to trade this year, and have to use next years first rounder in the draft, as we haven’t used one since 2015 draft. Unless we’re trading a gun of our own like Petracca or Oliver, then we have no way of getting him across.

magic beans?

wines is going nowhere - will be their next skipper

i fully expect we may target a free agent - gaff, dahlhaus, lynch (unlikely unless we lose hogan), etc. - as vince is ooc and we need to keep bringing talent in in order to get better

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When I think of Trac over McCartin, that makes one forget in some ways the fact that the MFC has passed on Nic Nat, Wines and Co.  Thank god the Saints listened to their dietitian over common sense.

The MFC has always defaulted to the nice guy you would want your daughter to marry.  I am surprised we don't have 21 young-liberals representing us.

 

As for Martin, there is no way in the world the MFC would have retained him during his wayward years.  Just my view.

 

 

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15 hours ago, chook fowler said:

More like a bridge over troubled waters 

Are you there Mrs Robinson ?

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