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2 hours ago, maximum bob said:

$13 Premiers

$7.50 Make GF

$15.00 Top of ladder

$3.50 Top four

$1.75 Final 8.

 

 

 

I'm curious. Why would we be shorter odds to be Premier than Top of Ladder? I'm trying to work out the mathematical logic. Someone who's a punter might be able to explain. Surely it's harder to be Premier?

Maybe it's as simple as there being more money for us as Premier (relative to other teams) than there is for us to be on top of the ladder.

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7 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm curious. Why would we be shorter odds to be Premier than Top of Ladder? I'm trying to work out the mathematical logic. Someone who's a punter might be able to explain. Surely it's harder to be Premier?

Maybe it's as simple as there being more money for us as Premier (relative to other teams) than there is for us to be on top of the ladder.

Hmm, that's an interesting one yeah. Trying to think of some rationales. Main one would be that people don't see the Demons as a team which will win constantly all season, but they do see us as being capable of putting a surge of form together to win through the finals.

Those odds would suggest 'they' think we are about 50/50 to make the finals, and if we make the finals, we're about 50/50 to be top 4, and if we are in the top 4 we're about 50/50 to make the grand final, and if we make the grand final, we're about 50/50 to win the premiership.

One coin toss at a time?

 

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I think we are ready with some  very good capable players and with  enough experience now to make an assault at the Flag. Barring any major injuries take the 13 dollars for PREMIERS, you won't get those odds after we beat the pussie cats.  The depth  runs deep.              IT'S TIME BOYS.

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1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm curious. Why would we be shorter odds to be Premier than Top of Ladder? I'm trying to work out the mathematical logic. Someone who's a punter might be able to explain. Surely it's harder to be Premier?

Maybe it's as simple as there being more money for us as Premier (relative to other teams) than there is for us to be on top of the ladder.

Who was the last team to finish on top of the ladder at the end of the home and away season and go on to win the GF?

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Anyone able to confirm whether the "top 4" bet is for end of H&A or end of finals? Eg Bulldogs finished 7th in 2016 then won the flag, if you had them for top 4 would you get the win? I assume not but it doesn't seem right.

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4 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Who was the last team to finish on top of the ladder at the end of the home and away season and go on to win the GF?

Collingwood? Hawthorn in 2015?

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8 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Anyone able to confirm whether the "top 4" bet is for end of H&A or end of finals? Eg Bulldogs finished 7th in 2016 then won the flag, if you had them for top 4 would you get the win? I assume not but it doesn't seem right.

End of home and away season.

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2 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm curious. Why would we be shorter odds to be Premier than Top of Ladder? I'm trying to work out the mathematical logic. Someone who's a punter might be able to explain. Surely it's harder to be Premier?

Maybe it's as simple as there being more money for us as Premier (relative to other teams) than there is for us to be on top of the ladder.

 

42 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Collingwood? Hawthorn in 2015?

I re-read ldvc’s question again, I read it in-correctly the first time. 

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Why shouldn’t we give things a good shake? At stages of the 2017 campaign we were scraping the bottom of the barrel in personnel terms, with the stupid suspensions and the cataclysm of injuries we suffered. Add Lever and Hogan to the line up for most of our season and all things being equal we are a two-goal a game better side, even if we see no improvement in other areas of our game. Brayshaw, Petracca, Oliver and Viney being fed by Gawn will be a formidable midfield for anyone to contend with. 

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1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Who was the last team to finish on top of the ladder at the end of the home and away season and go on to win the GF?

And all of the top of the ladder interstate teams of recent years have capitulated dramatically when it came to the MCG grand final. Much easier for them to dominate their home games all year and then put in a half hearted 50/50 effort away and still finish on top or close to it. If we're 13/1 to win the GF, then 15/1 is too short for top of the ladder. Should be far bigger odds.

 

 

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Schmucks are schmucks until they prove otherwise. 20-1 would be more reasonable odds.

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before the last round of last year we were paying $11 to miss finals

and now we are similar odds to win the flag before the seasons starts

(I don't have a point, just the first edition of 'DubDee's OddSpot')

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16 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm curious. Why would we be shorter odds to be Premier than Top of Ladder? I'm trying to work out the mathematical logic. Someone who's a punter might be able to explain. Surely it's harder to be Premier?

Maybe it's as simple as there being more money for us as Premier (relative to other teams) than there is for us to be on top of the ladder.

You can fluke a premiership without being the best team all year like the Bulldogs or Tigers. You can't fluke top of the ladder ithout being the best team all year.

We are a much greater chance of inning the premiership than finishing on top.

The best bet is Melbourne to win the women's premiership at $5.

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Betting on the MFC  aka throwing away money and having your heart broken again.

Sounds like a great deal.

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2 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Betting on the MFC  aka throwing away money and having your heart broken again.

Sounds like a great deal.

I suppose that depends if you’re betting on them to win or lose. 

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17 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Betting on the MFC  aka throwing away money and having your heart broken again.

Sounds like a great deal.

Gamble Responsibly !  

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8 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

You can fluke a premiership without being the best team all year like the Bulldogs or Tigers. You can't fluke top of the ladder ithout being the best team all year.

We are a much greater chance of inning the premiership than finishing on top.

The best bet is Melbourne to win the women's premiership at $5.

The Tigers weren't the best team all year??

Geez, they were damn close...

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