List Structure: What do we actually need?

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Just now, old dee said:

Not sure we can wait till 2020 for the Weid to pull that one off DD.

we need a CPF and or CPB added for 2018.

Yeah I think Pedo fills the gap really well. A NQR that another club wants to see off, like Casboult (God help me) would only frustrate. I think next year we can expect some results from Weed. And then the year after, we'll know exactly what we have.

[Wilson7 2,670]

14 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Just a reminder that we only have to reduce the list by two players this year because Lumumba has already picked himself as the third. 

Joel Smith signed a 2 year contract and will be promoted at the end of the season, will take Lumumbas spot. Still need to de-list 3

[Skuit 10,031]

Said it last year, and will say it again. Those trying to scrape together a list of our 'minimum three' in turnover as per regulations are ignoring the historical reality. Lowest turnover numbers for the last however many years:

2016: Bulldogs/Richmond/Port - 7

2015: Bulldogs/Saints/Hawthorn - 8

2014: Freo/West Coast - 6

2013: Bulldogs/Gold Coast - 6

[Red and Blue realist 2,051]

17 hours ago, old dee said:

Not sure we can wait till 2020 for the Weid to pull that one off DD.

we need a CPF and or CPB added for 2018.

Just don't want to sell the farm to get someone to cover for a year or 2, then struggle to retain the core. I'd say that's what Tim Smith was brought in for, unfortunately he's injured now, but I wonder if we'll again look at a mature age to provide cover. 

I think Weid will come on pretty quickly though, remember he didn't play at all in his draft year, so he was always going to take a little bit of time. 

[Fat Tony 5,228]

13 hours ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

Joel Smith signed a 2 year contract and will be promoted at the end of the season, will take Lumumbas spot. Still need to de-list 3

I think Smith will count as a draft pick, so we only need to delist two players. 

[beelzebub 23,370]

57 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

Just don't want to sell the farm to get someone to cover for a year or 2, then struggle to retain the core. I'd say that's what Tim Smith was brought in for, unfortunately he's injured now, but I wonder if we'll again look at a mature age to provide cover. 

I think Weid will come on pretty quickly though, remember he didn't play at all in his draft year, so he was always going to take a little bit of time. 

Strangely  , and no doubt to the surprise of some , i have a different take on things. 

Like OD I'd be looking to augment the front and back with players that upgrade the list. If same said players really work out and someone like the Weed struggles to find a spot....then find a trade for the Weed.

It's about US and success. If a player though developing becomes surplus them simply realise that value and invest elsewhere.

[DV8 2,271]

On 24/06/2017 at 4:12 PM, shorty said:

No for me, lazy , poor work ethic, uncompetitive, only likes to get it on his terms.!!!

poisson to the list.

On 29/06/2017 at 9:43 AM, mauriesy said:

While it would be nice to have a Kelly or Lever, I'm getting to the point where I don't think we need that much. Defence, mids, ruck and forwards are developing nicely, as is the hardness, spirit and belief.

Just keep turning over a few players at the bottom of the list, and make sure we have a serviceable backup ruck.

a quick nimble jockey type?  Higgins?

Sam Hayes?

Stephenson.

 

[Red and Blue realist 2,051]

42 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Strangely  , and no doubt to the surprise of some , i have a different take on things. 

Like OD I'd be looking to augment the front and back with players that upgrade the list. If same said players really work out and someone like the Weed struggles to find a spot....then find a trade for the Weed.

It's about US and success. If a player though developing becomes surplus them simply realise that value and invest elsewhere.

Patience in not a virtue of many around here. We took Weid at pick 9, knowing that he would take a fair while to develop, especially as he had missed the majority/all of his draft year. If we traded him now we'd be lucky to get a pick in the 20s, which we then wouldn't be able to trade onto T.Lynch, Cameron, Patton (insert other key forward here), as you know the system doesn't work like that. 

I think your point was similar to mine, except I'm happy to back them in to develop him as I'm sure they've got planned before starting to think about trading him.

[shorty 233]

Weeds by the time he is 24 will be a gun, kicking 40 goals a year. Many experts believe, if fit would have went top 2. Just don't know why we can't leave the kid alone to develop. People have short memories look what the lounge chair experts did to Wattsy. Just wait until he weighs 100kilos and has five years in the system.

[DemonLad5 1,642]

A gun KPD and perhaps another midfielder who's lightning quick would be nice

[Captain Todd 171]

Only 3 needed:

Key Forward to team up with Hoges, mature 24yo+ maybe. 2 Meter Peter was mentioned. (Previously mentioned on DL)

Extra mid with the tank of a Kenworth truck and class of a Mercedes. Spend the first round on it.

Any player with the heart of Pharlap. Third Round and trade all picks in between to improve first round pick.

And stack them up for following 2018 SuperDraft!

I love this team!

[CityDee 738]

Another Jeff Farmer 

[whatwhat say what 22,750]

steve may re-signed with gc17, now the #2 highest paid key position defender in the game behind alex rance

Edited July 6, 2017 by DemonAndrew

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,754]

4 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

steve may re-signed with gc17, now the #2 highest paid key position defender in the game behind alex rance

Is that fact (for both May and Rance) or media speculation?

[whatwhat say what 22,750]

50 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Is that fact (for both May and Rance) or media speculation?

Rampant media speculation 

[leave it to deever 17,511]

On 6/30/2017 at 7:43 PM, CityDee said:

Another Jeff Farmer 

Im happy with the Jeff weve got but yea yours was a gun

[Freak 100]

It seems that the days are gone that we will have top 5 picks so we may need to draft a bit more for needs than ever before. With that in mind, what sort of player do you think we need? 

For me:

1. Key position defender: Too much reliance on both mcdonald brothers and Frost and all do scare me deep in defence with their foot skills and decision making. a key defender with above average foot skills would be high on the pecking order. Basically Jake Lever.

 

2. Small forward: Garlett won't be around forever but a genuine speedster with goal sense would be worth targeting. I don't think JKH or Dion johnstone are in that level. 

3. Quick midfielder: Oliver, Viney, Lewis, Tyson, Jones, Brayshaw, Petracca arent overly quick. Oliver and Petracca are the most explosive of this bunch over shorter distances but not neccessarily over 50metres. Hunt, Garlett and Frost show the value of speed and another quick mid would be a priority instead of a slower inside mid types that Jason Taylor loves. 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Is it just me or is a thread started on this every week?  I'm thinking finals, not list needs, at this point in time.

[ignition. 1,466]

Trade based on needs, draft based on talent.

[Adzman 2,154]

Whoever the footy department wants. I have faith in our personnel at the club responsible for list management.

 

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Geez, Zorko is a super star who doesn't get enough recognition in Victoria. What would it take to get him to leave Bris and come to us?

Probably a rhetorical question...

Edited July 23, 2017 by Moonshadow

[Redleg 40,915]

2 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Geez, Zorko is a super star who doesn't get enough recognition in Victoria. What would it take to get him to leave Bris and come to us?

Probably a rhetorical question...

Think he signed an extension this year. 

[Demons1858 1,760]

On 2017-6-19 at 11:38 AM, HBDee said:

We have four ruckmen on our list. Granted two are developers, but we don't need another ruckman, unless Spencil goes.

We have plenty of mid/flanker types.

Key forwards and backs are hard to find so take them where we can I think. Joel Smith showed enough early in the year for mine to show he can play reasonably tall down back given his leap, and potentially up forward.....

Probably get rid of a few of the smaller depth guys in favour of some younger talent will be the main change come the end of the year I think.

Problem is the developing rucks aren't developing and our back up ruck is injury prone

[Demons1858 1,760]

On 2017-6-24 at 3:58 AM, DominatrixTyson said:

Make a play for Motlop as a stay-at-home small forward then? Geelong might want someone like ANB or Kent.

I would stay way. Doesn't consistently display elite habits. Geelong seemed like they wanted to offload him in recent times

[jacey 333]

5 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

I would stay way. Doesn't consistently display elite habits. Geelong seemed like they wanted to offload him in recent times

If he consistently did that, he wouldn't be available. 

You pick up these players at discounted price and back your footy department. 

Impey from port is another I like.