Post Match Discussion - Round 12

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

1 hour ago, Ron Burgundy said:

We were watching the game from the nose bleed section in the Members. You could see absolutely everything.

The game was completely in the balance. Time was running out. 71,000 people had their hearts in their mouths. 

Harmes kicks it long to a player in space. It was to Watts who had sprinted from the CBD to run onto the bouncing ball on the wing.

ETC

 

Excellent description.

You should change your handle to Damon Runyon!

[MrReims 313]

My favourite from an irate Pies fan suggesting they pull out of QB all together;

"So I gather by everybody thoughts here I'm not the only one, we owe Neale Daniher nothing, they can [censored] off and use another club like they use and our massive following, I've had a gut full of this stuff, Collingwood are stupid to let another club to pump them up to the detriment of our team and 4 points each year, the AFL don't want us to spoil the party, those lady 3 mins today told a huge story, it was the BIG FIX, something needs to change, the booing for the maggots as they walked off today was massive, loud and long, we could all see it, yet they treat us as stupid"

 

Enough said really ?

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

2 minutes ago, MrReims said:

My favourite from an irate Pies fan suggesting they pull out of QB all together;

"So I gather by everybody thoughts here I'm not the only one, we owe Neale Daniher nothing, they can [censored] off and use another club like they use and our massive following, I've had a gut full of this stuff, Collingwood are stupid to let another club to pump them up to the detriment of our team and 4 points each year, the AFL don't want us to spoil the party, those lady 3 mins today told a huge story, it was the BIG FIX, something needs to change, the booing for the maggots as they walked off today was massive, loud and long, we could all see it, yet they treat us as stupid"

 

I love the sound of moaning and bitching in the morning .... it sounds like ..... relevance.

[DemonOX 8,791]

Can't believe we r SIXTH on the ladder which is the first time since 2006. 

Hopefully we stay there for the rest of the season. 

[binman 42,903]

Just now, DemonOX said:

Can't believe we r SIXTH on the ladder which is the first time since 2006. 

Hopefully we stay there for the rest of the season. 

i hope not.

[DemonOX 8,791]

15 minutes ago, MrReims said:

My favourite from an irate Pies fan suggesting they pull out of QB all together;

"So I gather by everybody thoughts here I'm not the only one, we owe Neale Daniher nothing, they can [censored] off and use another club like they use and our massive following, I've had a gut full of this stuff, Collingwood are stupid to let another club to pump them up to the detriment of our team and 4 points each year, the AFL don't want us to spoil the party, those lady 3 mins today told a huge story, it was the BIG FIX, something needs to change, the booing for the maggots as they walked off today was massive, loud and long, we could all see it, yet they treat us as stupid"

 

Enough said really ?

I think that person needs a big box of Kleenex. 

[binman 42,903]

Top 4 would be better!!

[DemonOX 8,791]

Just now, binman said:

Top 4 would be better!!

Of course binman I was more referring to that we don't go down outside the 8 and would rather stay there than go down. 

[KysaiahMessiah 725]

19 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

This.

Nope.  Was at the ground, and just watched the replay.  Greenwood holding the ball (2m57 to go) a definite.  Maybe Adams in the back late was there.  What about the Treloar htb the we didn't get?  Or the Howe holding the ball 5.45 to go that we didn't get?  Would have been a set shot from 40 out. Lots of ifs and buts but it certainly didn't affect the outcome.  Nice though to be on the plus side of the free kick count though for a change.

[Nasher 33,613]

12 minutes ago, binman said:

Top 4 would be better!!

4th is within reach next week if all goes in our favour, although Richmond play Sydney at home and Port play Brisbane - and of course we have to win - so the odds are against it.

We can't fall out of the 8 though unless we suffer a large loss, which also seems unlikely. Huge opportunity to push a game clear of the logjam occurring below us this week, which includes the team we play against. The season is definitely heating up now.

[Uncle Fester 2,848]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

Anyone else notice how awkward Watts looked when he bounced the ball? My heart was in my mouth....

I remembered the time in 2011 when Jack ran into the goal from pretty much the same angle, bounced the ball, and... 

It hit the ground like it was flat. He fumbled around, couldn't get it back, and then it went down the other end for a goal.

 

Heart in mouth doesn't even get close.

[Brownie 5,980]

27 minutes ago, MrReims said:

My favourite from an irate Pies fan suggesting they pull out of QB all together;

"So I gather by everybody thoughts here I'm not the only one, we owe Neale Daniher nothing, they can [censored] off and use another club like they use and our massive following, I've had a gut full of this stuff, Collingwood are stupid to let another club to pump them up to the detriment of our team and 4 points each year, the AFL don't want us to spoil the party, those lady 3 mins today told a huge story, it was the BIG FIX, something needs to change, the booing for the maggots as they walked off today was massive, loud and long, we could all see it, yet they treat us as stupid"

 

Enough said really ?

brilliant.

it's actually one whole sentence!

those lady 3 mins really did tell a story.

so does "we owe Neale Daniher nothing"

uncharitable graceless clowns

[DeeZee 7,378]

We haven't even hit our straps yet, just wait till Gawn starts giving out mids silver service out of the middle.

Its been a mammoth effort by the boys without Gawn and Hogan and really underplayed in the media.

[binman 42,903]

19 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

Of course binman I was more referring to that we don't go down outside the 8 and would rather stay there than go down. 

Yes i know, just joshin. Nice to be joking about where we might finish in the 8!

[3Dee 1,153]

8 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

We haven't even hit our straps yet, just wait till Gawn starts giving out mids silver service out of the middle.

Its been a mammoth effort by the boys without Gawn and Hogan and really underplayed in the media.

True, the real test is complacency with these guys coming back, hopefully we go up a level and string a few wins together.

Edited June 13, 2017 by 3Dee

[binman 42,903]

3 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

We haven't even hit our straps yet, just wait till Gawn starts giving out mids silver service out of the middle.

Its been a mammoth effort by the boys without Gawn and Hogan and really underplayed in the media.

100% agree. Its funny how short term the the media is. A couple of weeks back i was watching a Port game and the commentators were raving about Ryder, gave Port such drive from the center and  he was the best ruckman in the league. In the immortal quote fro Repo Man i cal [censored] on that.

We will be 20% better with Gawn in the side. 

[KysaiahMessiah 725]

19 hours ago, DeeZee said:

Thought Lewis was very ordinary though 

Wasn't his best, but everyone has an ordinary game. Positive is we won without a massive impact from JL.

[3Dee 1,153]

Good experience for the mids too for when Gawn goes forward and we go defensive at the bounce.

[daisycutter 29,613]

18 hours ago, loges said:

Never heard a Melbourne crowd so loud as today, did we outnumber them in the crowd ? 

the only time the filth made more noise was when they booed any mfc player with a set shot at the city end

[jnrmac 20,059]

17 minutes ago, Brownie said:

brilliant.

it's actually one whole sentence!

those lady 3 mins really did tell a story.

so does "we owe Neale Daniher nothing"

uncharitable graceless clowns

It won't be long before Collingwood are begging for us to let then play us on QB because they need the exposure and cash flow......

[Grimes Times 1,278]

18 hours ago, binman said:

Great win. 

I have not missed seeing a QB match live for years but had to this weekend as i had to go away for a basketball tournament. Got back just in time to watch it on TV.

I never go on DL during a match, usually because i'm at the game, but stupidly did so today at the end of the fist quarter, albeit very briefly. Predicable bagging of Omac for his two errors blind clearing the ball with rushed kicks from deep inside 50 (on his left foot both times interestingly). No mention at all of his other excellent defensive efforts in the quarter. An i wonder if there were comments about the defensive errors by Salem and Frost x 2 that cost us goals. Or the woeful kick inside 50 by Trac that cost us an easy goal. Or later in the game the three other times in the game we blindly kicked it from deep inside our 50 (Jones, Lewis and someone else) that didn't come back purely because of luck (one of those times because of a brilliant spoil from TMac halved a contest he should have lost)

I had to laugh because at one point Omac took a defensive pack mark and one of the bone headed commentators said it 'fell it into his lap'. Not geez, he read it well, unlike the other players flying for it. I wondered if DL had somehow infiltrated the commentary box such was the obvious confirmation bias.  

Omac was excellent today. As i have said many times i acknowledge his weaknesses but some of the comments on this site about him not being up to AFL standard, wouldn't get a game in any other team, woeful, etc etc are so of the mark they border on weird. As i have also said many times the coaching team keep picking him and that can only mean one thing. They rate him.

Actually two things. Those that say he should not be in the side  because he is not up to it are wrong. Plain wrong. They had the opportunity to drop him this week by bringing in Spencer (or Wagner for that matter). Many argued they should have. A season defining game with a top 8 position on the line. With only one big forward in the magpie side. But they didn't. What does that say about how highly they rate OMac?

And OMac repaid that faith and proved his knockers wrong.   And by by the by may he miss next week because he hurt his abductor near the end of the 3rd or near the start of the last and played the rest of the game under severe duress.

 

POST OF THE WEEK

[rolling fog 1,207]

Worth noting that we were the older and more experienced of the two sides yesterday. 

Avg Age: MFC - 25yrs 0d precisely!, CFC - 23yrs 261d

Avg games: MFC - 92 games, CFC - 75

Difference is by no means earth shattering, but does still equate to 1-2 seasons more experience.

I choose to read into this that the balance is starting to turn and we're no longer going to always be the younger of the two sides on the park. Yesterday's performance (read: halftime onwards) should start to be the norm and not the exception 

[daisycutter 29,613]

i want to hear more about those 3 min ladies. maybe uncle bitters could explain?

[Akum 2,660]

3 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:

...

Harmes kicks it long to a player in space. It was to Watts who had sprinted from the CBD to run onto the bouncing ball on the wing. The rest played out in agonising slow motion.

...

After watching this replay for the umpteenth time, I just noticed this.

I'd thought Watts just happened to be hanging around in space somewhere at half forward when the ball came down. But no, he was near the back of the centre square in the middle; he was in a totally different part of the ground. But as soon as he saw O-Mac's dribble kick break the Collingwood line, he sprinted - because he had to get to where Harmes was going to kick it before any Pie defenders - towards the boundary line about 60m out, then ran in another 40m to make sure of the goal.

A 100m sprint at the end of an exhausting game ...

3 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:

...

And then he seemed to realise that it was he who had to do it. He had to kick the winner. At that moment, he seemed to slow down, focus on the goal, and steady himself. It was like the bomber in the Dam Busters knowing that he had just one attempt and he simply had to hit the target. Civilisation depended on it.

And he nailed it!

...

... after which he somehow mustered up both the energy and the composure to slot the goal.

Watts has been criticised for his level of intensity, but this was intensity with a capital "Holy S***!!" If he'd just stayed where he was at the back of the square, Harmes would have had just Garlett against 3 defenders to kick to, nobody would have blamed Watts or anybody, and we might have been treated to the alternative scenario of Fasolo kicking the winning goal after the siren in a triumphant comeback!

But it was just as much his ability to dial that adrenalin down from 100 to about 20 in a few seconds that made him able to settle himself enough after that massive physical effort to actually get the execution right.

Some don't like the fact that he's not full-on intensity all the time, but the ability to quickly control that intensity can be absolutely critical at the right time.

Edited June 13, 2017 by Akum

[Webber 10,465]

16 minutes ago, Akum said:

After watching this replay for the umpteenth time, I just noticed this.

I'd thought Watts just happened to be hanging around in space somewhere at half forward when the ball came down. But no, he was near the back of the centre square in the middle; he was in a totally different part of the ground. But as soon as he saw O-Mac's dribble kick break the Collingwood line, he sprinted - because he had to get to where Harmes was going to kick it before any Pie defenders - towards the boundary line about 60m out, then ran in another 40m to make sure of the goal.

A 100m sprint at the end of an exhausting game ...

... after which he somehow mustered up both the energy and the composure to slot the goal.

Watts has been criticised for his level of intensity, but this was intensity with a capital "Holy S***!!" If he'd just stayed where he was at the back of the square, Harmes would have had just Garlett against 3 defenders to kick to, nobody would have blamed Watts or anybody, and we might have been treated to the alternative scenario of Fasolo kicking the winning goal after the siren in a triumphant comeback!

But it was just as much his ability to dial that adrenalin down from 100 to about 20 in a few seconds that made him able to settle himself enough after that massive physical effort to actually get the execution right.

Some don't like the fact that he's not full-on intensity all the time, but the ability to quickly control that intensity can be absolutely critical at the right time.

Great summary. He's all class, and starting to rack up his fair share of game-winning moments. Very hard to imagine this team now without him. And on that, for all the extra unfamiliar work he's done this year as the ultimate utility player, remains uninjured.