TEAM SELECTION AND MATCH PREVIEW - ROUND 5

[DeeZee 7,397]

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

See, I'll never understand this sort of comment.  While Melksham has been average, he and Kent play in completely different positions.  To suggest you want one for the other makes little sense.

If you want Melksham out then suggest someone who will play across half back - if you look at how our side is lining up, with Melksham in the side (and the return of Hibberd) allows us more freedom to use Salem, Hunt and even Vince further up the field where they can do more damage.  

I would suggest Hibberd across half back.

i just think Melksham has very ordinary disposal 

So to clarify it's not like for like at all, as Hibberd, Salem , Vince and Hunt can all play half back.

[dees189227 12,394]

Dont mind the changes. Kent yes Im a little surprised but happy to see JKH back. Hope he can add something to the forward line. Obviously rapt to see Jesse back. He is one forward that troubles Rance. Bugg from memory did ok in the same game last year. Good to see Smith get another go and Hibberd well it will be good to see what he can do. 

Remember last year it was the game where Rance did that dog act of a hit on Watts. 

Come on dees smash them 

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Hibberd is a gun. Can't believe we got him - some people here plainly don't get it. 

And well done Saty on the Tim Smith prediction. Pedo must be slightly on the outer - personally, I like him in the team.

Not happy that Kent's been omitted.

 

 

[bing181 9,240]

6 minutes ago, watchtheeyes said:

Kent: 2 tackles in 2 games, plus inaccurate in front of goal.

I was surprised when I saw him omitted, but on that basis I get it.

Was something that I think it was Plapp commented on, that he needed to work on the defensive side of his game, so perhaps not as surprising as what it might seem.

[TickleMeTyson 137]

Not sure about omitting Kent seems like he's suited for the big stage, although he mustn't be focused enough on the defensive aspects of his game. The inclusion I'm most looking forward to is actually Tim Smith. With Hogan back, Smith is an exciting second option forward, he is mobile and with the focus on Hogan I wouldn't be surprised if he had a big impact Monday. 

[Dante 2,739]

15 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Kent omitted = W T F??

wouldve kept bugg for this game too

I said in another thread that Kent escapes a lot of scrutiny on here, but obviously not in the eyes of the football department

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

#%$¥ I want to win this game! 

 

[Demonsone 2,037]

9 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Would rather Kent than Melksham any day of the week 

Melksham is a defender & Kent a forward ... 

[Diamond_Jim 12,591]

Pardon my ignorance but do either of Hibberd or Smith provide relief rucking or is it still up to Jack?

thanks

[deanox 9,927]

2 minutes ago, watchtheeyes said:

Kent: 2 tackles in 2 games, plus inaccurate in front of goal.

I was surprised when I saw him omitted, but on that basis I get it.

I was hard on Kent during game day and a few people disagreed with me. 

 

What I saw was a bloke who looked to get on the end of easy ball and didn't work hard enough when we didn't have it.  The thing that stood out the most though was the time he took when he got the ball at half forward.  Maybe it was the lack of Hogan, but 3 times he marked it 60-70 out, walked back slowly, then took too long before kicking inside 50 ineffectually. 

If he wants to play that position he needs to bring more to the table defensively and needs to move the ball quickly when we are on the attack. 

 

I did like that he generated shots on goal, but if he isn't going to get the other things right he needs to convert more of those opportunities. 

[titan_uranus 25,020]

How much worse does Melksham have to play before he gets dropped?

Would have preferred to have given Bugg another game than Melksham.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

2 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

How much worse does Melksham have to play before he gets dropped?

Would have preferred to have given Bugg another game than Melksham.

All I can think of is that he must be doing something right, regardless of how Goodwin rates him.  I'd love to know the stats of the players he is playing on during a game.  Perhaps, defensively, he has been terrific, even if he hasn't given us a whole lot going the other way yet.

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

2 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Melksham is on his last chance this week surely. He has been woeful.

Dean Kent  out really sucks, this is the exact kind of game he would have excelled in. Disappointing.

@Petraccattack - help me out here, whilst I really rate Kent's power running offensively (and clear lack of pressure defensively - presumed reason for omission) - why is THIS a game that he would excel in?

[DeeZee 7,397]

2 hours ago, Hogan2014 said:

Melksham is a defender & Kent a forward ... 

Yes i know that but Hibberd has come in and can slot into Melkshams spot.

Kent can stay in and we can have Smith for Hannan, JKH for Bugg, Hogan for Weideman 

[Skuit 10,031]

6 minutes ago, Danelska said:

@Petraccattack - help me out here, whilst I really rate Kent's power running offensively (and clear lack of pressure defensively - presumed reason for omission) - why is THIS a game that he would excel in?

Because he kicked a goal against them once.

[bing181 9,240]

8 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

All I can think of is that he must be doing something right, regardless of how Goodwin rates him.  I'd love to know the stats of the players he is playing on during a game.  Perhaps, defensively, he has been terrific, even if he hasn't given us a whole lot going the other way yet.

Also perhaps it's more structural, wanting to move Salem up the ground or into the mids, and there's no like-for-like half-back replacement (Wagner injured, White coming back from injury). Lewis comes back next week as well, so that's the spot Melksham is keeping warm.

Still think Melksham will turn out fine, but a year off/away from footy isn't nothing.

[Lord Travis 10,732]

Richmond are a small fast team all about speed in their forward half and pressure around the ground. Kent out is a poor decision by the coaches as he is one of the few who has potential to help us handle their game style. His replacement in JKH offers less. JKH is one of the slowest indigenous players I've ever seen. On top of his lack of speed he doesn't win much ball, doesn't hit the scoreboard much, doesn't lay a lot of tackles and isn't very damaging with ball in hand. He's a list clogger IMO and his inclusion in place of Kent is a poor one.

The other swaps are all fine to me, Bugg a little unlucky to be dropped as he is consistent and played well against Tigers last year.

Edited April 22, 2017 by Lord Travis

[Wiseblood 24,637]

9 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Richmond are a small fast team all about speed in their forward half and pressure around the ground. Kent out is a poor decision by the coaches as he is one of the few who has potential to help us handle their game style. His replacement in JKH offers less. JKH is one of the slowest indigenous players I've ever seen. On top of his lack of speed he doesn't win much ball, doesn't hit the scoreboard much, doesn't lay a lot of tackles and isn't very damaging with ball in hand. He's a list clogger IMO and his inclusion in place of Kent is a poor one.

The other swaps are all fine to me, Bugg a little unlucky to be dropped as he is consistent and played well against Tigers last year.

You don't think the club have considered this, Trav?  Kent might be quick, but if he isn't doing the team things within the structure (which is why I assume he was dropped) then it's the right decision.  We have enough players to create the pressure we need across half forward.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

16 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Also perhaps it's more structural, wanting to move Salem up the ground or into the mids, and there's no like-for-like half-back replacement (Wagner injured, White coming back from injury). Lewis comes back next week as well, so that's the spot Melksham is keeping warm.

Still think Melksham will turn out fine, but a year off/away from footy isn't nothing.

I'm in the same boat.  There is no disputing that he's made a slow start to his career with us, but I think in time he'll turn out to be a handy addition to the side.  

[What 18,810]

23 minutes ago, Danelska said:

@Petraccattack - help me out here, whilst I really rate Kent's power running offensively (and clear lack of pressure defensively - presumed reason for omission) - why is THIS a game that he would excel in?

Theres a fair chance this match could be a shootout between ether sides smalls.  Thought Kent would thrive in that climate.

Anyways, Vlaustin is a big out or them - their 2nd best lock down player after Rance and one of their toughest few.  A couple of Tiger supporters at PuntRoadEnd forum are saying they cant win now lol

[dazzledavey36 54,947]

Not game related but Angus Brayshaw is out of the game in the VFL. Looks like its a concussion 

[The heart beats true 18,128]

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Not game related but Angus Brayshaw is out of the game in the VFL. Looks like its a concussion 

F#*K

[Wiseblood 24,637]

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Not game related but Angus Brayshaw is out of the game in the VFL. Looks like its a concussion 

Let's just hope it's minor and they're keeping him out to be on the safe side.

[dazzledavey36 54,947]

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

Let's just hope it's minor and they're keeping him out to be on the safe side.

I too hope this is the case.

[Bimbo 940]

3 hours ago, Dante said:

I said in another thread that Kent escapes a lot of scrutiny on here, but obviously not in the eyes of the football department

What would they know?