Bimbo

For what it is worth, it is Richmonds biggest loss and easily their lowest score for the season.

Have read through about half post game thread and it is a pleasure not to see any critisism of the umpires. It is just possible there may be some comment on the Richmond fan forums.

Only saw first half at teh ground. Thomo had lots of posessions but several were of the kind Hawthorn backs had against us. Some very good and some ordinary. Dont be fooled by the high posession numbers however.

It was just in front of me. He got a call and gave it in the right direction. Dont look on it as being Hunters fault. Otherwise, he hasnt looked all that good although a bit better in the last few minutes before half time.

Billy Picken did. He was reqruited from Heywood

Hawks have a higher score in the first half than they did for the whole game against us.

Looked a happy player in a happy team during the last quarter on Saturday. And he was first to get his arms round Petracca after "that spoil" with a huge smile on his face

If anyone is feeling a little down, go the Big Footy Hawthorn page reviewing the game. They are a mite unhappy. And if that doesnt cheer you up, todays was Hawthorns lowest score against Melbourne since 1960.

Certainly Essendon this century. Carlton are doing their best to reclaim the crown (particularly through their supporters) If it was the most loathed player, he would come from a different team and I think be considered for that position by at least 99% of Demonlanders. I am to my surprise not as anti GWS as I was. That may relate to the current make up including Toby Bedford and Hogan and not Sheedy, $cully, Phat Phil or Silvagni

Simon Goodwin has said: Howes and Windsor to debut. Billings and Oliver to play. Brayshaw to take some time away from football before the club puts something in front of him. Very pleased to hear he will be part of MFC

I just hope that Carlton look as modest against every other team this year. And the corollary is that I hope D's lood as good against every other team also

What was the "Adelaide deal"? I remember hearing they were offering McAdam in exchange at one stage. With respect, if that was the deal then I believe the club did the correct thing in refusing. Was there anything better on offer?

Father took me to Melbourne (180 miles one way as it then was) as an 8 year old to watch Ron Barassi at the Lake Oval in 1963. Demonwiki informs me it was 1 June. I recall being amazed by the huge crowd. Demonwiki informs me it was 17,160. I remember being desolated by the loss but Demonwiki informing me the score was: South Melbourne 11 goals 8 behinds 74 Melbourne 8 goals 22 behinds 70 suggesting some things dont change over 60 years

On a stats level too basic to be mentioned in the Stats thread: Since round 10 (21 May) Collingwood have played 4 games only against teams in the finals. They had a good 2 point win against Port in Adelaide and have lost to Melbourne, Carlton and the Lions. Over the same time frame, Melbourne have played seven games against each of the fnalists (excepting Port) including Carlton twice and have only lost to GWS (somehow) and the conttroversial loss to Carlton. I reckon that is pretty good form coming into the finals.

I think it will be 20 in a row in one season. They won their first and third.