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Funny how clubs can make a call like that on a 20 yr old.  Whoever picks him up will be the one's laughing in the end.

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There has to be more to it... a player simply does not drop from pick 2 to unwanted by all in the space of two years.

 

My guess is clubs are being coy and not playing their hand early, waiting to see how low Brisbane is willing to go.  A few clubs will pop up with a mid to late first rounder by week’s end... (surely)

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15 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

There has to be more to it... a player simply does not drop from pick 2 to unwanted by all in the space of two years.

 

My guess is clubs are being coy and not playing their hand early, waiting to see how low Brisbane is willing to go.  A few clubs will pop up with a mid to late first rounder by week’s end... (surely)

^This^

I think further offers will come in this week and no doubt questions have been asked but Lions current asking price is a little high

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My strategy as our FD would be to try and package 2-3 second rounders together for a single first rounder. I'd put the first rounder on the table and shake some trees and see what falls out. If it's Gaff or Schache, both these guys fill a need for us.

If we don't get something we like, I'd take the pick to the draft. 

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2 hours ago, A F said:

My strategy as our FD would be to try and package 2-3 second rounders together for a single first rounder. I'd put the first rounder on the table and shake some trees and see what falls out. If it's Gaff or Schache, both these guys fill a need for us.

If we don't get something we like, I'd take the pick to the draft. 

nobody is paying a 1st rounder for schache

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I'm all in for our second rounder. I would be a happy camper if we take a pint on him.

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4 hours ago, Adzman said:

I'm all in for our second rounder. I would be a happy camper if we take a pint on him.

Are you a glass half full kinda guy? ;)

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11 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Are you a glass half full kinda guy? ;)

Haha, a few too many half pints empty it seems!

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Brisbane currently hold the following picks. Points in brackets.

Pick 1 (3000)

Pick 12 (1268)

Pick 18 (985)

Pick 20 (912)

Pick 39 (446)

They have an academy player named Conner Balleden who is tipped to be bid on at around pick 10 (1395)

We could trade them pick 29 (653) and 31 (606) for Schache.

They can then use pick 20 and 39 to draft players rather than use them for academy points.

Assuming we get pick 31 for Watts from Port.

 

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Mick Mcguane was on SEN a short time ago and gave an insight on Schache.

Not sure how to put the link up but he basically stated teams should stay away from him.

Mentioned how some young talls find it difficult to transition form U18 level into the AFL early in their careers due to some rules/system the U18 competition has in place for key forwards inside 50.

They have a lot more room to work with and can dominate one on one when they are physically stronger than their opponents but they don't have that luxury in the AFL.

Also mentioned in his second game of AFL he took 5 contested marks and yet this season he only took 2 in his ten games. He thinks something is amiss with Schache at this stage.

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1 hour ago, Demon77 said:

Mick Mcguane was on SEN a short time ago and gave an insight on Schache.

Not sure how to put the link up but he basically stated teams should stay away from him.

Mentioned how some young talls find it difficult to transition form U18 level into the AFL early in their careers due to some rules/system the U18 competition has in place for key forwards inside 50.

They have a lot more room to work with and can dominate one on one when they are physically stronger than their opponents but they don't have that luxury in the AFL.

Also mentioned in his second game of AFL he took 5 contested marks and yet this season he only took 2 in his ten games. He thinks something is amiss with Schache at this stage.

TAC footy is a very different animal and McGuane is spot on.

Most forward thinking recruiters will be allowing for that.

The offensive side controls the space in forward line in TAC cup footy for the most of the game, in AFL this is completely reversed.

I would be looking at what the player does when his space is shut down and when he is outnumbered, not at how many goals he kicks.

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1 hour ago, Demon77 said:

Mick Mcguane was on SEN a short time ago and gave an insight on Schache.

Not sure how to put the link up but he basically stated teams should stay away from him.

Mentioned how some young talls find it difficult to transition form U18 level into the AFL early in their careers due to some rules/system the U18 competition has in place for key forwards inside 50.

They have a lot more room to work with and can dominate one on one when they are physically stronger than their opponents but they don't have that luxury in the AFL.

Also mentioned in his second game of AFL he took 5 contested marks and yet this season he only took 2 in his ten games. He thinks something is amiss with Schache at this stage.

He does not want to be in Brisbane perhaps!!

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On 10/15/2017 at 8:46 PM, BAMF said:

Brisbane currently hold the following picks. Points in brackets.

Pick 1 (3000)

Pick 12 (1268)

Pick 18 (985)

Pick 20 (912)

Pick 39 (446)

They have an academy player named Conner Balleden who is tipped to be bid on at around pick 10 (1395)

We could trade them pick 29 (653) and 31 (606) for Schache.

They can then use pick 20 and 39 to draft players rather than use them for academy points.

Assuming we get pick 31 for Watts from Port.

 

That's not how the bidding works. 

If he is bid for at pick 10 then the Lions have to use their next available pick on him, i.e. pick 12 and take the change in points after the 20% discount as a later draft pick -

In this example 1395 (pick 10 bid) - 279 (20% discount = 1116 points required

1268 (lions next pick 12) - 1116 = 152 (Lions get pick 60 as change)

So 12 for Ballenden + 60 at the draft

http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL Tenant/AFL/Files/Father-son-bidding-system.pdf

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This kid obviously has talent if he went pick 2. He seems very similar to Weiderman, but slightly bigger. If all he will cost is a second round pick, then it’s a risk worth taking surely? Could become a solid key forward for us, spreads the pressure and expectation between him and Weid, and removes the pressure to be the number 1 key forward straight off the bat as Hogan already holds the mantle. Seems a good option for a 2nd rounder?

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19 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

This kid obviously has talent if he went pick 2. He seems very similar to Weiderman, but slightly bigger. If all he will cost is a second round pick, then it’s a risk worth taking surely? Could become a solid key forward for us, spreads the pressure and expectation between him and Weid, and removes the pressure to be the number 1 key forward straight off the bat as Hogan already holds the mantle. Seems a good option for a 2nd rounder?

I'd say we're either after someone else we rate higher (probably a mid) or our FD has ruled him out, because otherwise it seems to be a bit of a no brainer.

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19 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

He's an upgrade on Hulett.

Clearly.

At worst he is a bit speculative, but so what, so many picks are. 

To me it is a low cost gamble and one I hope we take.

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29 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

He's an upgrade on Hulett.

volumes :rolleyes:

can't wait

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