POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 18

[DeeSpencer 24,762]

39 minutes ago, AdamFphlebeb said:

Really? I must have completely missed that. His first half was horrible.

I agree. Don't think the backline will be his go, but still think he offers something and am glad he's having a crack there for now. Will make him a more dangerous forward/mid for having some time down back.

[Demons11 6,711]

50 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

OOhhh dear !!! Such a blistering and articulate rejoinder!!! I am wracked with guilt and shall be sleepless for weeks!!!

 

BTW your effort may have improved through use of quotation marks ( talking marks to you) around the word spiritless.

 

Maybe you should stick to giving punctuation lessons instead of commenting on footy, this seems to be your area of expertise. 

[beelzebub 23,198]

I will say watching the Cats Crows game that the umpiring seems .....umm...better 

But you have to play all opponents that present on the day

[DeeSpencer 24,762]

1 hour ago, 3Dee said:

Solid 4 quarter effort, confusing result, is Gus still feeling lingering effects? Hunt & Frost on the chase down tackles are great to watch, N Jones BOG after last weeks shocker, Petracca continues to improve (those calling for him to be rested  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ) and Tyson has finally figured out how to not get done for holding the ball. 

Bring that intensity to the Suns next week and we'll cream 'em.

Watering the ground is a good way for Tyson to not get caught with it. He's a gun in the wet, just needs to improve his burst a bit so he can do it on a dry day. Plus watch tapes of the good parts of Priddis' game.

If this is Gus with some lingering issues then I'd hate to see him fully healthy! I think it's a guy who's missed a lot of footy and has barely played at the top level. A few poor handballs in traffic and a couple of less than ideal kicking options let him down, but his hands around the packs, tackling and zip all looked good to me. Plus it was nice to see him kick well on his left. A dual sided clever stoppage player is a handy weapon and he'll tidy up those handballs. 

[Akum 2,660]

1 hour ago, PaulRB said:

From AFL site "Questionable decisions
Two decisions in the last quarter left many scratching their head, and they both went against the Demons. With two minutes to play, Dom Tyson was set upon near the boundary line in the pocket and mocked the ball over. The resulting free kick relieved untold pressure on the Eagles although Josh Kennedy missed his shot. The Eagles players waved their arms and gesticulated wildly. The crowd went ballistic. It was what is called a home-town free. Earlier in the quarter another dubious decision inside West Coast's forward line resulted in Josh Hill slotting an important goal."

What's the bet that comes out again before very long? The AFL Integrity Dept won't let it stand.

It's called bringing the game into disrepute!

[chook fowler 19,251]

Proud of the effort. Shattered by the result.

[leucopogon 1,518]

Gawn and Jones were immemse, how we didn't win that was just nuts. Brayshaw has become the turnover king, why has he gone so far backwards from last year? OMac, again badly outmuscled in a few duels that cost two goals, wet conditions helped mask his glaring flaws. I'd rather see him developed in the 2s. T Mac is taking the [censored] surely if he's seriously asking for $700k a year. Kicking direct to the opposition like he does is just Auskick stuff. We should have killed the Eagles today who went in top heavy and have the softest underbelly of any top 8 team I've ever seen.

Edited July 23, 2016 by leucopogon

[P-man 13,366]

5 minutes ago, leucopogon said:

Gawn and Jones were immemse, how we didn't win that was just nuts. Brayshaw has become the turnover king, why has he gone so far backwards from last year? OMac, again badly outmuscled in a few duels that cost two goals, wet conditions helped mask his glaring flaws. I'd rather see him developed in the 2s. T Mac is taking the [censored] surely if he's seriously asking for $700k a year. Kicking direct to the opposition like he does is just Auskick stuff. We should have killed the Eagles today who went in top heavy and have the softest underbelly of any top 8 team I've ever seen.

Brayshaw did some brilliant things and some horrendous things. By my reckoning he broke even. I have little doubt he'll be a very good player.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

2 minutes ago, P-man said:

Brayshaw did some brilliant things and some horrendous things. By my reckoning he broke even. I have little doubt he'll be a very good player.

Pretty much spot on P-man.  He had 20 touches to go with 9 tackles... but also 6 clangers.  He will clean that up in time, especially after missing so much footy.

What I do like about him is that he seems to make the right decision with ball in hand.  How often does he hit a target inside 50 or fire off a handpass to the right player?  As you say, he will be a very good player at the very least.

[beelzebub 23,198]

2 minutes ago, P-man said:

Brayshaw did some brilliant things and some horrendous things. By my reckoning he broke even. I have little doubt he'll be a very good player.

Spot on . Just starting to get back into his groove. Season notlong enough now to matter. Dare I say roll on 2017 ?

[4JacksandaKing 52]

2 hours ago, praha said:

Our defense was good. Ultimately, their defense was better.

Deplorable umpiring in the last that made it very difficult to build momentum. I never knew how blatant the bias was in Perth because we always get smashed there. It was clear the umps were looking for any reason to award a free.

I live for the day we ever get a home ground advantage like that......?

[4JacksandaKing 52]

11 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Pretty much spot on P-man.  He had 20 touches to go with 9 tackles... but also 6 clangers.  He will clean that up in time, especially after missing so much footy.

What I do like about him is that he seems to make the right decision with ball in hand.  How often does he hit a target inside 50 or fire off a handpass to the right player?  As you say, he will be a very good player at the very least.

...especially after his head whacked into the ground. I hope he's ok

[Akum 2,660]

What really bothers me is that I clearly remember the feeling at this time in the 2010 season. We had improved earlier in the season, we had what looked like a very promising young team, we put up a few "good performances" against pretender teams (though we still couldn't beat any, except for a day out against the Swans) and a few shockers against sides we should have beaten.

But we were OK about it because, well, we looked so good for next season, we had so much bloody "potential". Everything was going to be fine.

Then, as we know, it all turned to excrement in 2011.

So this was a real "late 2010" game. The way we wrote the 'script back in 2010 is that we'll lose badly to the teams we should beat (Suns & Blues), and we'll "perform well" but still lose to the pretender teams Port & Geelong. And "better performance" against pretender teams definitely doesn't mean that it'll all come together next year. Not by a long shot. We've just got it all to do again.

[Adam The God 29,381]

15 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Pretty much spot on P-man.  He had 20 touches to go with 9 tackles... but also 6 clangers.  He will clean that up in time, especially after missing so much footy.

What I do like about him is that he seems to make the right decision with ball in hand.  How often does he hit a target inside 50 or fire off a handpass to the right player?  As you say, he will be a very good player at the very least.

I just like that he's getting more of the ball again. His clearance game has improved too.

[Adam The God 29,381]

38 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I agree. Don't think the backline will be his go, but still think he offers something and am glad he's having a crack there for now. Will make him a more dangerous forward/mid for having some time down back.

Nothing more than a fringer. Don't mind them persisting though.

[Dr. Gonzo 23,709]

2 hours ago, stuie said:

Bet you said that 3 years ago...

 

In 2013? Doubt it

[Deeoldfart 7,993]

I'm generally not the greatest fan of Roosy's pressers, but I reckon he's spot on with this one:  Rd 18: Paul Roos post-match

Yeah, I'm well aware that lots won't agree, but so be it.

 

[Dr. Gonzo 23,709]

2 hours ago, stuie said:

Yeah the pressure around the game was very good for the most part, the problem is how easily we were beaten once the ball came into their 50.

 

A lot of the game was played 40-70 metres out from our goal in a congested mess. It's no wonder when they did manage to break out and go inside 50 it was on a break and they had space to work in. 

[Dr. Gonzo 23,709]

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

I don't think he's overated as such. He's just not 100℅ committed. When you aren't days like today show that up. Watts had a classic post contact announcement game ( wtf is it with that )

Watts tried his guts out and did plenty of 1%ers just had no room to move i50 when he got the footy.

[Dr. Gonzo 23,709]

2 hours ago, PaulRB said:

From AFL site "Questionable decisions
Two decisions in the last quarter left many scratching their head, and they both went against the Demons. With two minutes to play, Dom Tyson was set upon near the boundary line in the pocket and mocked the ball over. The resulting free kick relieved untold pressure on the Eagles although Josh Kennedy missed his shot. The Eagles players waved their arms and gesticulated wildly. The crowd went ballistic. It was what is called a home-town free. Earlier in the quarter another dubious decision inside West Coast's forward line resulted in Josh Hill slotting an important goal."

The one against Gawn was bad - the eagle player just threw his arms back and fell over.

[Demonsone 1,956]

bottom line we lost a game we should have won!

Cant question their commitment & toughness but just need to work on the polish & FFS Mcdonald whilst not alone turned over the ball twice by foot which & one cost us a goal, for an experience player & all the great defending this lets him down on many occasions!

Umpiring a disgrace & crucified us!

[PaulRB 6,297]

Time for drinking... 

 

[picket fence 16,689]

2 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I'm over hearing this stuff - I've heard it for [censored] years.

Once again- for all our "spirit" - and toss in effort potential or any other [censored] thing you like - we are "short on" the four points.

So am I over this stuff! and I agree with Uncle! Of course we are so far advanced under Roosy that we can cause .... upsets like St. Kilda vs Dogs!! But of course both teams are so much more advanced than us!

Always! Spirit and endeavour by some will only get you so far! We have too many "Iffy" players who tantalize, produce when inferior opposition becons, but then when real opportunity awaits we find... the skills and other intangibles fail us! And so it is and is and is..... 

Have we really improved in the last x number of years??

The Melbourne Demons , a bit like when I was a young kid eyeing the beautiful girl next door wondering wondering but never ever succeeding because, just not quite good enough! and so it goes on and on and onnnn !

Edited July 23, 2016 by picket fence

[picket fence 16,689]

51 minutes ago, 4JacksandaKing said:

I live for the day we ever get a home ground advantage like that......?

Oh yeah home ground advantage, Darwin and Shitihad anyone??

[picket fence 16,689]

Sheeit I'm "Livid" tonight, and accordingly posted far more than usual! Totally peed of with this, its doing me and others no fgood!!