Who are the Dees chasing for 2017 and at what cost?

[DemonOX 8,551]

The best thing about this thread is that it wasn't up after round 1 or 2 as in previous seasons. 

It makes for a nice change and hopefully the trend continues. 

[Scipio 5,868]

10 hours ago, olisik said:

Need more mids. Vince and Jones will be in there twilight once our window opens. Need at least two more mids 

Can never have enough mids, and it amazes me when people say that Prestia is surplus to requirements. Ridiculous.

[faultydet 7,593]

1 hour ago, Stinga2 said:

If Hurley were to come to us, would it be as a delisted free agent and we would have to pay nothing to the bumbers? Has this been clarified anywhere?

its a fairly big factor in the equation.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/adelaide/adelaide-crows-linked-with-banned-essendon-allaustralian-michael-hurley/news-story/1822a3d86dcab1a3c59afac05d2f40d1

Under the AFL’s grievance policy, it is understood he could invoke a previously unused clause in his player contract that would allow him to leave the Bombers and join the club of his choice next year.

Under the policy, any player who has a grievance with his club has the right to have that grievance aired through the AFL grievance tribunal as part of the AFL collective bargaining agreement.

Hurley could argue there has been a breach of his contract, particularly as Essendon has pleaded guilty to two charges laid by WorkSafe Victoria for breaching the Occupational Health and Safety Act over the club’s handling of its 2012 supplements program.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/essendon/banned-essendon-players-could-be-convinced-to-walk-out-on-club-with-rivals-circling/news-story/10d9f4f1f3855939e4cfd6c44cc1eace

Up to six clubs have spoken to Hurley’s manager Paul Connors about invoking a previously unused clause in the player contract which would allow the banned Hurley to leave Essendon and join the club of his choice.

All 12 suspended Essendon players – who could become delisted free agents if they choose – could use the same trigger to leave Essendon.

 

 

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,573]

Interesting. I wonder if the players would be happy to use that clause if it would mean Essendon end up with nothing?

How sweet it would be if Hurley and Hibberd came over and the Bombers get nothing... haha

[Demons11 6,404]

On 13 June 2016 at 11:22 PM, DeeSpencer said:

Hibberd makes sense to me. Just hope it doesn't mean Jetta is going anywhere. 

Melksham then could tag/wing or half back, handy depth otherwise. Vince can play more midfield. Salem can play forward/mid where he'll be most damaging. 

I'd love a 2nd ruck but maybe draft/develop is the best option. 

3rd tall defender is a needs position. Oscar/Tom/Frost tall defensive combination has merit but they don't kick it well. I'd rather those 3 fight for 2 spots. Then to have a Josh Gibson or Easton Wood style player next to them.

Imagine those 3 fighting for 2 spots. A gun 3rd tall with Lumumba for depth. Jetta in a back pocket. Vince floating from a flank. Plus Hunt, Wagner, Melksham, Hibberd fighting for 2 spots, that's proper competition for spots in a backline with a good mix of pace, skill and defensive ability.

If there's not a 3rd tall available then I'd hit up the draft for one as a priority.

They need blokes who can kick coming out of the backline and he fits the mound perfectly.

[Lucifers Hero 37,323]

Lewis Taylor? 

Won the Rising Star two years ago.  Was mentioned on this board as mfc preferred choice at pick 9 if Salem wasn't available. 

Seems he may be on the move http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-season-2016-brisbane-lions-at-a-contract-stalemate-with-lewis-taylor-20160614-gpiv78.htmlHis asking price of $500K is OTT but it maybe a ploy to get out of there.  Maybe he would come for a lot less to join a young, going places Dees.  

Our recruiters have done a good job of tracking players missed in their draft  (Bugg, Kennedy etc) and getting them to the Dees. So Taylor would still be on our radar.

 

Taylor hasn't had a great year but hard to star in the lions team atm.  He is described as a 'speedy midfielder' and we do need midfield speed. 

 

If we don't go for/get Prestia, Taylor would be an excellent alternative - similar size & skills but a cheaper trade price and cheaper contract price. 

Edited June 15, 2016 by Lucifer's Hero

[ArtificialWisdom 3,933]

27 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Lewis Taylor? 

Won the Rising Star two years ago.  Was mentioned on this board as mfc preferred choice at pick 9 if Salem wasn't available. 

Seems he may be on the move http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-season-2016-brisbane-lions-at-a-contract-stalemate-with-lewis-taylor-20160614-gpiv78.htmlHis asking price of $500K is OTT but it maybe a ploy to get out of there.  Maybe he would come for a lot less to join a young, going places Dees.  

Our recruiters have done a good job of tracking players missed in their draft  (Bugg, Kennedy etc) and getting them to the Dees. So Taylor would still be on our radar.

 

Taylor hasn't had a great year but hard to star in the lions team atm.  He is described as a 'speedy midfielder' and we do need midfield speed. 

 

If we don't go for/get Prestia, Taylor would be an excellent alternative - similar size & skills but a cheaper trade price and cheaper contract price. 

Has talent but not sure he quite fits the "compeditor" style that they are all about. I rate him but not at the same level of a Prestia. If we could get him on the cheap then worth a shot, but i would expect Brissy to ask more than what we can, well should, offer in return. They will be desperate to keep him or trade up. 
 

[beelzebub 22,336]

1 hour ago, faultydet said:

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/adelaide/adelaide-crows-linked-with-banned-essendon-allaustralian-michael-hurley/news-story/1822a3d86dcab1a3c59afac05d2f40d1

Under the AFL’s grievance policy, it is understood he could invoke a previously unused clause in his player contract that would allow him to leave the Bombers and join the club of his choice next year.

Under the policy, any player who has a grievance with his club has the right to have that grievance aired through the AFL grievance tribunal as part of the AFL collective bargaining agreement.

Hurley could argue there has been a breach of his contract, particularly as Essendon has pleaded guilty to two charges laid by WorkSafe Victoria for breaching the Occupational Health and Safety Act over the club’s handling of its 2012 supplements program.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/essendon/banned-essendon-players-could-be-convinced-to-walk-out-on-club-with-rivals-circling/news-story/10d9f4f1f3855939e4cfd6c44cc1eace

Up to six clubs have spoken to Hurley’s manager Paul Connors about invoking a previously unused clause in the player contract which would allow the banned Hurley to leave Essendon and join the club of his choice.

All 12 suspended Essendon players – who could become delisted free agents if they choose – could use the same trigger to leave Essendon.

 

 

In simple terms..push come to shove  a player can tell Essendon where to jump. End of story  Essendon , as they have throughout this who sad affair have always attempted to muddy waters and run with false truths.  They still are.  Quite frankly some of these young men must have rocks for brains...or none  Some no doubt have been'smooth talked' by the club into continuing.. Major releief for Windy Hill...No huge law suits to contend.

Of course the League is in cahoots here also. They will not be advertising the reality of what players can do. The AFLPA  ( aka waste of space )  will do their backers bidding here also.

A player, if he wishes to leave, invokes breach of contract , spcifically the relevance to players health . Once triggered the AFL is bound to follow its own rules.  Here it has a choice though. It can lay its cards down and concede, or make it a long winded process to the same outcome.

The EFC and the AFL  are playing poker again....they are holding NO CARDS but bluffing big time.

The sole determining factor in reality is the player. If someone wants to call their bluff , which they shouldnt have to , they play the "Grievance" Joker.

Its still all about mind games.

Has there ever been a bunch so morally vacuous  and corrupt as this lot from Windy Hill.!!!!

[faultydet 7,593]

5 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

 

A player, if he wishes to leave, invokes breach of contract , spcifically the relevance to players health . Once triggered the AFL is bound to follow its own rules.  Here it has a choice though. It can lay its cards down and concede, or make it a long winded process to the same outcome.

The EFC and the AFL  are playing poker again....they are holding NO CARDS but bluffing big time.

The sole determining factor in reality is the player. If someone wants to call their bluff , which they shouldnt have to , they play the "Grievance" Joker.

 

Cant understand for the life of me why it hasn't happened yet. There must be some serious intimidation going on behind closed afl doors.

Dees, tell them all to go to hell. If we are seriously trying to land Hurley and Hibberd, they would surely understand that they have a better chance of playing in a successful side, if that side does not need to entertain that idiot Dodoro.

 

Finally a chance to show some balls. Lets do it.

[Wilson7 2,536]

38 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Has talent but not sure he quite fits the "compeditor" style that they are all about. I rate him but not at the same level of a Prestia. If we could get him on the cheap then worth a shot, but i would expect Brissy to ask more than what we can, well should, offer in return. They will be desperate to keep him or trade up. 
 

The article says he wants 500k, if true, no way

[Stretch Johnson 2,601]

11 minutes ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

The article says he wants 500k, if true, no way

That is not a lot

[Demon Disciple 11,135]

3 hours ago, Stretch Johnson said:

That is not a lot

It is for a bloke with Taylor's output for the past 2 years.

[Skuit 9,382]

7 hours ago, Is Dom Is Good said:

Interesting. I wonder if the players would be happy to use that clause if it would mean Essendon end up with nothing?

How sweet it would be if Hurley and Hibberd came over and the Bombers get nothing... haha

I imagine the AFL would grant the Dons free agency compensation, no? With the likely contract value, and Hurley being a 26y/o AA KPD, that compensation would be pick 2.

[Scipio 5,868]

2 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

It is for a bloke with Taylor's output for the past 2 years.

The potential to hit that mark was there last year and people do pay for potential - look at the WBD and the ball and chain that is Tom Boyd. But I like to think we won't make a call like that because we don't have the luxury yet.

[Biffen 12,433]

Buddy Franklin may walk away from Sydney citing anxiety and media overexposure . They lacked a duty of care by offering him too much too soon.

[Demi Dee 578]

22 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Buddy Franklin may walk away from Sydney citing anxiety and media overexposure . They lacked a duty of care by offering him too much too soon.

A quiet and peaceful existence may be possible in our forward line. If too much money is a problem, a humble salary is more than ok. I'm sure Hogan would be OK sharing the space. 

[The O 39]

Expect a number of players to be squeezed out of Port Adelaide at the end of season due to salary cap concerns. I don't know if there would be any interest, but Jackson Trengove is one name mentioned at the start of the season by some family members who are very heavily involved at 2 Vic based clubs.

For those mentioning interest in pursuing James Gaff, forget it he's no chance at returning back to Melb. Very happily enjoying life in WA, recently bought a house and settled in WA.

[Demon Disciple 11,135]

53 minutes ago, The O said:

For those mentioning interest in pursuing James Gaff, forget it he's no chance at returning back to Melb. Very happily enjoying life in WA, recently bought a house and settled in WA.

Think you mean Andrew

[DeeSpencer 23,501]

1 hour ago, The O said:

Expect a number of players to be squeezed out of Port Adelaide at the end of season due to salary cap concerns. I don't know if there would be any interest, but Jackson Trengove is one name mentioned at the start of the season by some family members who are very heavily involved at 2 Vic based clubs.

For those mentioning interest in pursuing James Gaff, forget it he's no chance at returning back to Melb. Very happily enjoying life in WA, recently bought a house and settled in WA.

His versatility is pretty important to them and he's still likely their starting choice CHB. 

I'd expect Port to dump ageing guys in Schulz, Carlisle and maybe Monfries, Matty White, Butcher before losing Trengove. I also think he's a pretty similar player to Tom McDonald so unless Tom goes I wouldn't be interested.

Edit: Matt White just signed on so it won't be him.

Tom Clurey is one who fits more of a 3rd tall role at 193cm and hasn't had a lot of opportunities with Port. Highly rated as a junior IIRC he has great endurance and can do a job.

Edited June 15, 2016 by DeeSpencer

[Demon_spurs 1,708]

2 hours ago, The O said:

Expect a number of players to be squeezed out of Port Adelaide at the end of season due to salary cap concerns. I don't know if there would be any interest, but Jackson Trengove is one name mentioned at the start of the season by some family members who are very heavily involved at 2 Vic based clubs.

For those mentioning interest in pursuing James Gaff, forget it he's no chance at returning back to Melb. Very happily enjoying life in WA, recently bought a house and settled in WA.

According to one commentator last week, we already have a Jackson Trengove 

[The O 39]

3 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Think you mean Andrew

Yes I did mean Andrew. It was his brother James who told me about how happy Andrew is in WA.

[Undeeterred 2,883]

On 6/14/2016 at 11:54 PM, DemonLad5 said:

Are the banned bombers any sort of risk given they haven't played for a year? No idea what to expect when they return next year

You never forget how to ride a bike mate.

[Undeeterred 2,883]

16 hours ago, DemonOX said:

The best thing about this thread is that it wasn't up after round 1 or 2 as in previous seasons. 

It makes for a nice change and hopefully the trend continues. 

Well, there was one at that point. This is a new one.

[deeko 937]

Just read a little fluff piece about Trenners keeping track of Lahlan Neale.

Haven't watched a Freo game this year tbh but I have heard Neale is in some cracking form.

Hopefully we are having a look

[DeeZee 6,853]

Trengove and Lachie Neale were best mates as juniors.