The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here

[loges 6,767]

Well done GNF always happy with your info. Too many naysayers on here

[olisik 4,060]

GNF has gotten is wrong too many times for me to get excited over a 6 month prediction....

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

On 8/3/2016 at 5:56 PM, olisik said:

GNF has gotten is wrong too many times for me to get excited over a 6 month prediction....

I mean he's also gotten some things very right but it doesn't suit your point to mention that. 

[Adam The God 30,603]

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

I've always thought he'd stay, because it just makes sense.  However, your assertion that it 'could' take 6 months is the comment that doesn't make sense.  There's no reason that I can fathom why it would take that long.

Agreed. Just that there's still some water to flow under the bridge, but that it's more than likely he'll stay. So if he's told the club he's re-signing it's unlikely he'll request a trade. We're not actually that much further along than we were before GNF's post. 

[Adam The God 30,603]

1 hour ago, chook fowler said:

I would suspect that the recent re-signing especially from Watts would have helped. There does seem to be an attitude of belief at the club these days, and Goodwin is very popular. Well done Jackson and Roos - whether he signs or not.

You watch. Have a feeling this is going to be a big off season for once. We'll have all our best players signed up and we'll land that big fish we've been talking about for two years.

52 minutes ago, Moneider96 said:

He also said that Dion Prestia is a certainty this year. Although that rumour hasn't been proven false as of yet, it's getting there.

That'll happen. As will Hogan's re-signing, but Hogan also said he was ready to sign last year and then that he was waiting for the CBA. So this really hasn't come much further, just an educated guess.

[loges 6,767]

Didn't Hogan say in his most recent interview he'd like to get things sorted sooner rather than later. Most on here took the negative that it meant nothing. Well just maybe he was alluding to something poitive

[Lucifers Hero 40,513]

Have no opinion of GNF or anyone.  Simply saying someone is playing the probabilities and applying some logic ie:

• All involved have consistently said JH will stay and JH wants to wait for CBA. 
• CBA now known to Clubs so reasonable to conclude JH willing to re- sign.
• JH wants to avoid last years Jan/Feb fiasco around his contract
• Therefore, reasonable to conclude JH will re-sign within 6 months.

It 'makes sense', right? 

Most of us on here have believed the club and that Jesse will resign when the CBA is known.  Tbh I think Jesse will sign before trade period starts (2 months).  Do I have a source? 

No.  Logically, it just 'makes sense' as the club needs to know what it can offer incoming trade players and current OOC players, to manage its salary cap. 

Anyone can make educated guesses!

Edited August 3, 2016 by Lucifer's Hero

[mo64 5,881]

2 hours ago, ProDee said:

I've always thought he'd stay, because it just makes sense.  However, your assertion that it 'could' take 6 months is the comment that doesn't make sense.  There's no reason that I can fathom why it would take that long.

 

Agree. If Hogan has agreed to re-commit, his signature asap is important for 2 reasons:

1. It's a massive endorsement of the club and a huge selling point if we're trying to lure players to the club

2. The club knows how much cap space it will have to re-sign players like T. Mac or lure a big fish like Hurley.

Putting off signing for 6 months actually hurts the club.

Edited August 3, 2016 by mo64

[John Crow Batty 8,880]

8 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Have no hate for GNF or anyone.  Simply saying someone is playing the probabilities and applying some logic ie:

• All involved have consistently said JH will stay and JH wants to wait for CBA. 
• CBA now known to Clubs so conclude JH willing to re- sign.
• JH wants to avoid last years Jan/Feb fiasco around his contract
• Therefore, JH will re-sign within 6 months.

It 'makes sense' right?

tbh I think Jesse will sign before trade period starts (2 months).  Do I have a source? 

No.  Logically, it just 'makes sense' as the club needs to know what it can offer incoming trade players and current OOC players, to manage its salary cap. 

Anyone can play the guessing game!

Agree, if it happens it should happen during finals or pre draft period. It will be difficult and a hinderance  to the club in planning the pre-season as well as managing trades and offers with ongoing uncertainty about his future. 

Edited August 3, 2016 by america de cali

[olisik 4,060]

29 minutes ago, Abe said:

I mean he's also gotten some things very right but it doesn't suit your point to mention that. 

A broken clock still tells the right time twice a day...

[daisycutter 29,892]

3 minutes ago, olisik said:

A broken clock still tells the right time twice a day...

only if it is an analog 12 hour clock

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

On 8/3/2016 at 6:35 PM, olisik said:

A broken clock still tells the right time twice a day...

as GNF said, you're entitled to your belief, he has made some calls a long way out that have proven 100% correct and for me that gives him credibility.

but as i said, each person is entitled to read or not, i don't see anything productive coming from you getting on here writing how his sources are rubbish, if you don't rate them, simply don't read it.

i am 100% certain there will still be many posters who appreciate what he says regardless of what you post.

[Ethan Tremblay 31,243]

1 hour ago, Biffen said:

Would you believe they tested the sewerage in Perth and found that Perthians consume about 3.5 times more meth than us normals on the East coast.

This is something I would believe, not the least bit surprised. 

[dazzledavey36 55,866]

5 minutes ago, Abe said:

as GNF said, you're entitled to your belief, he has made some calls a long way out that have proven 100% correct and for me that gives him credibility.

but as i said, each person is entitled to read or not, i don't see anything productive coming from you getting on here writing how his sources are rubbish, if you don't rate them, simply don't read it.

i am 100% certain there will still be many posters who appreciate what he says regardless of what you post.

Each to their own Abe but what calls has he exactly made 'from a long way out' that was true?? And dont say the Paul Roos saga.. Media experts were already drumming up for Roos as soon as the Essendon debacle it went from then on throughout the year. GNF went along with it and claimed it from there.

Actually curious to see a list of things he has gotten right over the years as you mentioned.

 

[Biffen 12,949]

Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

This is something I would believe, not the least bit surprised. 

Kenny Buzzins must be partly to blame.

[Nasher 33,617]

I believe it because I already believed it anyway. 

[Members' Wing 1,106]

6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Each to their own Abe but what calls has he exactly made 'from a long way out' that was true?? And dont say the Paul Roos saga.. Media experts were already drumming up for Roos as soon as the Essendon debacle it went from then on throughout the year. GNF went along with it and claimed it from there.

Actually curious to see a list of things he has gotten right over the years as you mentioned.

 

Jesus, please can we not? Happens every single time he posts something. 

[mo64 5,881]

2 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I believe it because I already believed it anyway. 

I'm an atheist. I only believe in things that exist or I have factual evidence to be true.

[Nasher 33,617]

Just now, mo64 said:

I'm an atheist. I only believe in things that exist or I have factual evidence to be true.

I'm an atheist too, and I am unsure how that precludes me from being confident Hogan will sign. There's nothing wrong with a bit of crystal ball gazing mo, it's fun. Give it a go sometime.

[dazzledavey36 55,866]

3 minutes ago, Members' Wing said:

Jesus, please can we not? Happens every single time he posts something. 

So? that's not my fault.

 

[DemonWA 3,940]

2 hours ago, Mach5 said:

Based on what exactly..?

track record of being right

[mo64 5,881]

Just now, Nasher said:

I'm an atheist too, and I am unsure how that precludes me from being confident Hogan will sign. There's nothing wrong with a bit of crystal ball gazing mo, it's fun. Give it a go sometime.

47 years of support has scarred me.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

On 8/3/2016 at 6:53 PM, dazzledavey36 said:

Each to their own Abe but what calls has he exactly made 'from a long way out' that was true?? And dont say the Paul Roos saga.. Media experts were already drumming up for Roos as soon as the Essendon debacle it went from then on throughout the year. GNF went along with it and claimed it from there.

Actually curious to see a list of things he has gotten right over the years as you mentioned.

 

No point really, you'll argue each point i make and it's not really worth the effort

i rate his posts, you don't, pretty simple really.

[Nasher 33,617]

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

So? that's not my fault.

 

It sorta is your fault - you go on the attack every time. I'm in your camp and I reckon LH has nailed it; GNF just plays the odds, but I think we should just drop it. If people want to back him and pin their hopes on him, let them. It's all just in good fun I reckon.

[rjay 25,302]

Just now, Nasher said:

It sorta is your fault - you go on the attack every time. I'm in your camp and I reckon LH has nailed it; GNF just plays the odds, but I think we should just drop it. If people want to back him and pin their hopes on him, let them. It's all just in good fun I reckon.

Yep, I reckon GNF is having a good laugh...