Dawesy still a vital cog

[picket fence 17,167]

FWIW  Chris Dawes is needed as CHF ! If Frost plays, he plays down back! 

Chris Dawes still the "go to CHF" for mine, smart footballer, knows where to run, can kick vital goals and knows how to deliver! If his Calf issuea sre over I would extend his current contract no problem at all! 

[The Backyard Charizard 1,202]

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

FWIW  Chris Dawes is needed as CHF ! If Frost plays, he plays down back! 

Chris Dawes still the "go to CHF" for mine, smart footballer, knows where to run, can kick vital goals and knows how to deliver! If his Calf issuea sre over I would extend his current contract no problem at all! 

I agree with your post 100% but it is a big IF...

I think a lot of people under estimate how important he is in our current squad...

[jumbo returns 6,741]

I want him on the park first, PF.

Edited April 30, 2016 by jumbo returns

[Demon Disciple 12,122]

12 minutes ago, picket fence said:

FWIW  Chris Dawes is needed as CHF ! If Frost plays, he plays down back! 

Agree with you on this picket. If Frost is to be in the 22, it should only be as a KPD. The jury is still massively out on him, and the more it is, the worse it gets.

His 2 goals highly flattered him today.

Dawes is still a walk-up start as CHF when fit, until Weideman overtakes him.

[Deeoldfart 8,031]

Very hard to disagree after today.  

[Demon Disciple 12,122]

At least you know what you get from Dawesy. Effort.

How many players' turned up with that today, 3.....4?

[martin 727]

Frost horribly out of position.

[CHF 2,738]

Frost's miss in the third was a turning point. Get it and we were a goal behind his miss lead to a coast to coast Saints goal and we were three goals behind. End of any chance of a competitive game..

[Demon Disciple 12,122]

9 minutes ago, martin said:

Frost horribly out of position.

That's what happens when his position is on the ground

[rjay 24,925]

9 minutes ago, CHF said:

Frost's miss in the third was a turning point. Get it and we were a goal behind his miss lead to a coast to coast Saints goal and we were three goals behind. End of any chance of a competitive game..

Nah, the turning point was when we got ahead of ourselves at Q time...we were coasting and they turned up.

[Grapeviney 9,718]

4 minutes ago, CHF said:

Frost's miss in the third was a turning point. Get it and we were a goal behind his miss lead to a coast to coast Saints goal and we were three goals behind. End of any chance of a competitive game..

It's tempting to see it that way (Jesse missed an easy one around the same time too) but it didn't affect the end result - we could have kicked 25 goals today, the Saints would have finished with 30.   

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Dawes and Frost are not part of the next step forward ATM.  Dawes cannot get fit, Frost cannot show value. 

Will Hulett get a run?

[rjay 24,925]

If Dawes is a vital cog we are going nowhere...he will be about 6 weeks off putting his name up for selection and by then I hope Weideman is in contention.

[Fat Tony 5,229]

Dawes, Pedersen and Frost are all about the same. Our backline and defensive strategy was the problem today.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Just now, Fat Tony said:

Dawes, Pedersen and Frost are all about the same. Our backline and defensive strategy was the problem today.

Outside spread and linkage as well Tone.

[MadAsHell 4,212]

Dawes is still important at least until the end of 2017 while Weideman & Hulett develop and until Hogan and Weideman sign their new contracts.

Dawes best & worst are much closer together then both Pedersen & Frost.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Dawes is sucking the life out of our salary cap. Most pundits estimates are between $500-600k pa. Where has his bang for buck been at MFC? Sure, we got to pay someone, and he's been injured, blah, blah, blah. Is he OOC at the end of this year? That money can be used to throw at a bigger, less fragile fish. Dawes will either not be at MFC next year or be on a hugely decreased contract.

Does he offer something going forward? Sure, but no one is holding their breath. Rather look elsewhere.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

If Dawes was vital, we would not be able to win without him.

Yet somehow we have won games without him in the side.

[dees189227 12,392]

If a fit Dawes was able to stand beside Hogan in the forward line it would take the attention of Hogan and also create another target for us and a forward line of Hogan, Watts and Dawes would look good with Jeff at there feet. 

[DeeSpencer 25,701]

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

Dawes is sucking the life out of our salary cap. Most pundits estimates are between $500-600k pa. Where has his bang for buck been at MFC? Sure, we got to pay someone, and he's been injured, blah, blah, blah. Is he OOC at the end of this year? That money can be used to throw at a bigger, less fragile fish. Dawes will either not be at MFC next year or be on a hugely decreased contract.

Does he offer something going forward? Sure, but no one is holding their breath. Rather look elsewhere.

Richmond on the back of 3 finals couldn't sign a big fish.

Dawes is propping up our salary cap getting us to the minimum. 

He'll be playing for a new contract this year with little leverage, don't worry about the money.

[DeeSpencer 25,701]

Anyway, Dawes would replace Pedersen not Frost. Or compete with Pedersen. I'm yet to be convinced one is better than the other.

Frost is a different question. 

He brings us something on a big ground at the G as he can run in to space and win contests, but was a liability at Etihad. Too much pressure on him to impact and his speed hides that he's still a big man when it comes to agility and he can't turn like a small man. 

Unfortunately with Vanders out/inj, Brayshaw out of form/fitness and so on we seem short on forwards. 

[olisik 4,060]

I want to see Dawes try play as a back man. Then we can drop Tmac

[Je Roos Salem 661]

We needed fewer bigs out there, playing Dawes would've been a nightmare

[Biffen 12,943]

I can run around dropping marks and clogging space for Hogan also.

For half a mill I'll play every week too.

Even with a broken leg.

Dawes is finished until he can take marks.

We were beaten by the Saints in the air and in run.

[Its Time for Another 4,217]

11 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Dawes is sucking the life out of our salary cap. Most pundits estimates are between $500-600k pa. Where has his bang for buck been at MFC? Sure, we got to pay someone, and he's been injured, blah, blah, blah. Is he OOC at the end of this year? That money can be used to throw at a bigger, less fragile fish. Dawes will either not be at MFC next year or be on a hugely decreased contract.

Does he offer something going forward? Sure, but no one is holding their breath. Rather look elsewhere.

This isn't correct. His contract was massively front ended. I think you would find he is sucking a very modest amount now. He wouldn't be getting a real lot if he's around next year but he'd have to have an amazing season once he gets back in to get another contract